Approved minutes for INCITS/L2 meeting #211

L2/08-006R

May 16, 2008

Approved minutes for INCITS/L2 meeting #211

Cupertino, February 4 – 8, 2008

Meeting location: Cupertino, hosted by Apple. Logistics at http://www.unicode.org/timesens/logistics-utc114.html

1. Opening of L2 meeting - remarks from the chair

2. Joint meeting with UTC

3. Administrative Agenda

3.1. Attendance and membership

Membership: Adobe, Apple, Google, HP, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, University of California at Berkeley (observer), Unicode, Yahoo! (11)

Members in jeopardy: (0)

Members present: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, University of California at Berkeley, Unicode, Yahoo!

3.2 Approval of agenda [L2/08-005]

The agenda is approved.

3.3 Approval of meeting minutes from L2 #210 [L2/07-348]

The minutes of the previous meeting are approved.

3.4 Action items follow-up

See L2/SD-2 for the current action items.

3.5 Registration of new documents and assignment to the agenda

See L2/SD-3 for the current document register.

3.6 Upcoming meetings

UTC 115/L2 212: May 12 – 16, 2008 San José, host Adobe

UTC 116/L2 213: August 11 – 15, 2008, Redmond, host Microsoft

UTC 117/L2 214: November 3 – 7, 2008, Mountain View, host Google

UTC 118/L2 215: February 2 – 6, 2009, Mountain View, host Unicode

4. Reports and liaisons

4.1 SC2

4.3 WG2

Tai Tham Ad-hoc Meeting Report, Chiang Mai, Thailand, January 21 - 22
Report: WG2 N3379 (= L2/08-038)

4.3 OWG-SORT

4.4 IRG

IRG Meeting #29, San José, USA, November 12 - 16
Resolutions: IRGN 1377 (= L2/08-015)
Unconfirmed minutes: IRG N1377-2 (= L2/08-016)

4.4 CT22

5. Ballots

5.1 Letter ballot reports

Doc#	Subject	Source	INCITS Due Date	Approval Criteria
L2/07-409	ISO/IEC 10646:2003/FDAM 3, Information Technology – Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) – Amendment 3: Lepcha, Ol Chiki, Suarashtra, Vai, and other characters	SC2 N3979	November 25, 2007	2/3
Resolved 8:0:0:2 to approve with comment: In page 18, the graphic symbols of two characters 0333 COMBINING DOUBLE LOW LINE and 0347 COMBINING EQUALS SIGN BELOW have been inappropriately modified compared to ISO/IEC 10646:2003. The double low line should never be narrower than the equals sign (they were roughly identical in ISO/IEC 10646:2003). The combining double low line should have the same width as the combining single low line (code position 0332) as originally in ISO/IEC 10646:2003 and the combining equals sign below should have the same width as the combining minus sign below (code position 0320). A note along the following lines would be desirable: NOTE - This amendment contains graphic symbols for 0333 COMBINING DOUBLE LOW LINE and 0347 COMBINING EQUALS SIGN BELOW which have been incorrectly modified. The graphic symbol for 0333 should be restored to the symbol used in ISO/IEC 10646:2003, while the graphic symbol for 0347 should be narrowed to a width comparable with the graphic symbol for 0320 COMBINING MINUS SIGN BELOW. For: Adobe, Apple, Google, HP, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Unicode Against: none Abstain: none No vote: Sybase, Yahoo!

Doc#

Subject

Source

INCITS
Due Date

Approval
Criteria

L2/07-409

ISO/IEC 10646:2003/FDAM 3, Information Technology – Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) – Amendment 3: Lepcha, Ol Chiki, Suarashtra, Vai, and other characters

SC2 N3979

November 25, 2007

2/3

Resolved 8:0:0:2 to approve with comment:

In page 18, the graphic symbols of two characters 0333 COMBINING DOUBLE LOW LINE and 0347 COMBINING EQUALS SIGN BELOW have been inappropriately modified compared to ISO/IEC 10646:2003. The double low line should never be narrower than the equals sign (they were roughly identical in ISO/IEC 10646:2003). The combining double low line should have the same width as the combining single low line (code position 0332) as originally in ISO/IEC 10646:2003 and the combining equals sign below should have the same width as the combining minus sign below (code position 0320). A note along the following lines would be desirable:

NOTE - This amendment contains graphic symbols for 0333 COMBINING DOUBLE LOW LINE and 0347 COMBINING EQUALS SIGN BELOW which have been incorrectly modified. The graphic symbol for 0333 should be restored to the symbol used in ISO/IEC 10646:2003, while the graphic symbol for 0347 should be narrowed to a width comparable with the graphic symbol for 0320 COMBINING MINUS SIGN BELOW.

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, HP, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Unicode
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: Sybase, Yahoo!

5.2 International ballot reports

Doc#	Subject	Source	INCITS Due Date	Approval Criteria
L2/07-409	ISO/IEC 10646:2003/FDAM 3, Information Technology – Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) – Amendment 3: Lepcha, Ol Chiki, Suarashtra, Vai, and other characters	SC2 N3979	November 25, 2007	2/3
L2/07-409	Summary of Voting: SC2 N3991 (= L2/08-009)

5.3 New ballots to vote

Doc#	Subject	Source	INCITS Due Date	Approval Criteria
L2/08-010	ISO/IEC 10646: 2003/FPDAM 5, Information technology - Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) - AMENDMENT 5: Tai Tham, Tai Viet, Avestan, Egyptian Hieroglyphs, CJK Unified Ideographs Extension C, and other characters	SC2 N3982	March 6, 2008	2/3
L2/08-010	Resolved 8:1:0:1 to include technical comment T3 of document L2/08-123 in the ballot comments, and to make a yes vote conditional on the acceptance of that comment. For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, Yahoo! Against: Microsoft Abstain: none No vote: HP Resolved 9:0:0:1 to include technical comments T1-T2 and T4-T8 of document L2/08-123 in the ballot comments, and to make a yes vote conditional on the acceptance of comments T4-T8. For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: HP Resolved 9:0:0:1 to include editorial comment E1 of document L2/08-123 in the ballot comments. For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: HP As a result of these resolutions, the US position is to vote "No" to the ballot, with comments as in L2/08-123, and with a change to "Yes" if technical comments T3-T8 are accepted.
L2/08-008	ISO/IEC 10646: 2003/PDAM 6, Information technology - Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) - AMENDMENT 6: Imperial Aramaic, Inscriptional Parthian, Inscriptional Pahlavi, and other characters	SC2 N3989	March 4, 2008	2/3
L2/08-008	Resolved 9:0:0:1 to approve PDAM 6 with comments as in L2/08-124. For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: HP
L2/08-012	Transmittal to INCITS Technical Committee and Task Group Chairs of the Executive Board Request for Confirmation of Liaisons - Action Item a07.147 from the September 2007 INCITS EB Meeting	in071775	March 14, 2008	majority
L2/08-012	Resolved 9:0:0:1 to confirm the liaisons with the Library of Congress and with INCITS/J4; attempts to contact the FCC liaison have been unsuccessfull. For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: HP
L2/08-014	Delegation to international meetings SC2 #15, WG2 #53 and OWG-SORT #7			1/2
L2/08-014	Resolved 9:0:0:1 for the delegations as listed in documents L2/08-119, L2/08-121 and L2/08-120 respectively. For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: HP

6. International meetings

6.1 Future meetings

SC2 #15 Redmond, USA, April 25, 2008
Call for participation and logistics: see WG2 #52
SC2 #16 Tokushima, Japan (pending confirmation, backup USA), Fall 2009

WG2 #52 Redmond, USA, April 21 – 25, 2008
Call for participation: L2/08-014
Logistics: L2/08-013
WG2 #53 Seeking host (backup USA), Fall 2008
WG2 #54 Republic of Korea (pending confirmation, backup USA), Spring 2009
WG2 #55 Tokushima, Japan (pending confirmation, backup USA), Fall 2009

OWG-SORT #7 Redmond, USA, week of April 21 – 25, 2008
Call for participation and logistics: see WG2 #52.
Preliminary agenda: L2/08-031

IRG #30, Busan, Republic Of Korea, June 9 – 13, 2008
IRG #31, Chongqing, China, November 17 – 21, 2008
IRG #32, Hong Kong SAR, June 2009 (tentative)

7. Endorsement of joint UTC/L2 meeting recommendations [L2/08-004]

The motions and consensus of the joint UTC/L2 meeting are unanimously endorsed by L2.

8. Miscellaneous

8.1. FCD 19757-7

SC2 has been solicited by SC34 to comment on FCD 19757-7, Information technology - Document Schema Definition Languages (DSDL) - Part 7: Character Repertoire Description Language (CRDL) [L2/08-032]

L2 resolved unanimously to forward L2/08-125 to SC2.

8.2 FCD 15897

SC35 has issued an FCD ballot for ISO/IEC FCD 15897, Information technology - User interfaces - Procedures for registration of cultural elements [L2/08-033]

L2 resolved unanimously to forward L2/08-122 to the INCITS Executive Board.

L2/08-006R