L2/11-016

Pre-Preliminary Minutes of the UTC 126 / L2 223 Joint Meeting
Sunnyvale, CA -- February 7-11, 2011
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UTC #126 Agenda
Revision date: February 15, 2011


February 7, 2011

Meeting opened at 10:40

Quorum: 8 full, 7 in regular attendance; 4 inst, 1 in regular attendance; 1 sup, 0 in regular attendance

Quorum is 5.

ROLL CALL: 6 members represented: UCB, Adobe, Apple, Yahoo, SAP, IBM

Eric Muller opened the L2 meeting.

A.6 Calendar review

UTC 131: Jan 30 - Feb 3, 2012 at Yahoo. Craig Cummings to confirm.

A.5.2.1 Review of open action items [L2/SD2]

[126-A1] Action Item for John Jenkins: Provide U Sources for compatability and unified CJK characters without sources to Michel Suignard for Unicode 6.1.

Lunch from 11:30 - 12:30

B.11.2.1 Response to UTC Suggestions Regarding Thai in UAX#29 [Hosken, L2/11-051]

[126-A2] Action Item for Peter Edberg: Respond to Martin Hosken re L2/10-051.

B.13.1 An Alias for Mark [Whistler, L2/11-003]

[126-C1] Consensus: Add "Combining Mark" as a second alias for gc=M in PropertyValueAliases.txt for Unicode 6.1.

[126-A3] Action Item for Mark Davis: Add "Combining Mark" as a second alias for gc=M in PropertyValueAliases.txt for Unicode 6.1

[126-A4] Action Item for Julie Allen, Editorial Committee: Add an entry for "Combining Mark" to the glossary.

[126-A5] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update section 5.7.1 of UAX #44 to explain the set of combined values for general category, for Unicode 6.1. Ref L2/11-003.

B.12.3 Proposal to improve the explanation of D143 [Freytag, L2/11-044]

[126-C2] Consensus: Modify the explanatory text for D143 as given in L2/11-044, for Unicode 6.1.

[126-A6] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Modify the explanatory text for D143 as given in L2/11-044 for Unicode 6.1.

B.13.2 Corrigenda should provide comprehensive data changes [Scherer, L2/11-004]

[126-A7] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Create a well-defined process for creating corrigenda, including regeneration of data files to check for and document dependencies if a property value is involved.

B.13.3 Additions to Unihan needed for CLDR [Davis, L2/11-032]

[126-C3] Consensus: Redefine the kMandarin and kTotalStrokes fields in Unihan. Both will become informative fields. Each will contain values that are intended for use by CLDR collation and transliteration. Each field may have 2 values; in such a case the first is preferred for "z-Hans", the second for "z-Hant".

[126-A8] Action Item for John Jenkins: Update Unihan database with relevant information on kMandarin and kTotalStrokes, for Unicode 6.1.

[126-A9] Action Item for John Jenkins: Update the text of UAX #38 to document redefined kMandarin and kTotalStrokes fields for Unicode 6.1. Give examples of the differences between simplified and traditional, and of problemmatic cases.

[126-A10] Action Item for John Jenkins: Request that the IRG make total stroke counts available with new submissions.

[126-A11] Action Item for V S Umamaheswaran: Communicate to WG2 a request that the Principles and Procedures be amended to require stroke counts for all proposed CJK ideographs.

Short break.

B.13.4 Proposal to correct mistakes and inconsistencies in certain property assignments for super and subscripted letters [Freytag, Karlsson, L2/11-043]

[126-C4] Consensus: Characters that have a sub- or superscript decomposition mapping to a single cased letter should have GC="Lm". Any changes to the general category which modify derived casing property values should result in additional changes to contributory casing properties to keep the derived casing stable. If Ll -> Lm, then Other_Lowercase -> "T".

[126-A12] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Produce a PRI noting that the consortium is planning to change the GC of 12 characters [see table below] and asking for feedback on implementations that may be affected. (Add background info.) To close May 2, 2011.

U+00AA FEMININE ORDINAL INDICATOR
U+00BA MASCULINE ORDINAL INDICATOR
U+1D62 LATIN SUBSCRIPT SMALL LETTER I
U+1D63 LATIN SUBSCRIPT SMALL LETTER R
U+1D64 LATIN SUBSCRIPT SMALL LETTER U
U+1D65 LATIN SUBSCRIPT SMALL LETTER V
U+1D66 GREEK SUBSCRIPT SMALL LETTER BETA
U+1D67 GREEK SUBSCRIPT SMALL LETTER GAMMA
U+1D68 GREEK SUBSCRIPT SMALL LETTER RHO
U+1D69 GREEK SUBSCRIPT SMALL LETTER PHI
U+1D6A GREEK SUBSCRIPT SMALL LETTER CHI
U+2C7C LATIN SUBSCRIPT SMALL LETTER J

[126-A13] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post the PRI on GC of 12 characters, to close May 2, 2011.

[126-A14] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the GC for the 12 characters in 126-A12, for Unicode 6.1.

[126-A15] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update Other_Lowercase in Proplist.txt for Unicode 6.1 to reflect 12 characters changed in 126-A12.

B.14.1 Request for changes to the Unihan kRSUnicode field [West, L2/11-020]

[126-A16] Action Item for John Jenkins, Editorial Committee: Document in UAX #38 that the intent is for the 1st field in kRSUnicode to be identical with CJKU_SR.

[126-A17] Action Item for John Jenkins: Correct the values for U+2305A and U+2AAA9 in kRSUnicode to be consistent with CJKU_SR for Unicode 6.1.

B.10.3.4 Feedback on middle dot (#166 UCA - Middle dot collation) [Persson, L2/10-237]

[126-A18] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Åke Persson Re "#166 UCA - Middle dot collation" that UTC will take no action on this suggestion.

Short break.

B.10.1.1.2 Feedback on the Proposed Draft Unicode Technical Report #49 Unicode Character Categories [Freytag, L2/10-452]

[126-A19] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Review L2/10-452 for for any small fixes that he can make.

[126-A20] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to Asmus: The UTC feels that this is out of scope for this UTR. If you have an alternative proposal and are willing to do the work, then you are welcome to do it. If you have suggestions that Ken could do without a lot of work, maybe he would entertain them. The kind of things that Ken would entertain include specific actionable proposals to move things from one bucket to another.

B.10.1 Issue 174: Proposed Draft UTR #49, Unicode Character Categories
B.10.1.1.1 General feedback [L2/11-023]

[126-A21] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to CE Whitehead re feedback on PRI #174. Ken Whistler will fix the currency sign U+00A2 and the rest is outside the scope for this TR.

[126-A22] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to Emmanuel Vallois on L2/11-023 re his feedback. Ken has reviewed the input and will be making updates based on it. Watch for the next version.

[126-C5] Consensus: Advance PD UTR #49 to draft UTR #49 and post for public review.

[126-A23] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close PRI #174. (PD will be advanced to Draft UTR #49.)

[126-A24] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Prepare updated text of Draft UTR #49 for posting.

[126-A25] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post PRI for UTR #49, to close May 2, 2011.

B.10.2 Issue 177: Proposed Update UTS #46, Unicode IDNA Compatibility Processing
B.10.2.1.1 General feedback [L2/11-023]
B.10.2.2 Document for review [Davis, Suignard, L2/11-061]

[126-A26] Action Item for Mark Davis: Make sure that the documentation of the columns in IDNATest.txt is correct based on feedback from Stephan Mueller in L2/11-023, PRI #177.

[126-A27] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Re PRI #177 feedback in L2/11-023. Respond to C E Whitehead that IDNA has a constraint that it must be compatibile with normalization and some of the effects you are seeing are because of that.

[126-A28] Action Item for Mark Davis: Change the format of the IDNA test file in the following ways: The data fields will be numbered from zero. "toUncodeErrors" will be field 4. "toAsciiErrors" will be field 5. "NV8" will be field 6. Fields 2 and 3 will not use empty compression.

[126-A29] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update text of UTS #46 regarding description of IDNATest.txt.

[126-A30] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Extend the date on PRI #177 to May 2, 2011. (And roll the text of PRI #177 forward to the new PRI format to clean up the page.)

[126-A31] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to to Marc Lehmann re his feedback on UTS #46.

B.10.3 Other feedback [L2/11-023]

[126-A32] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to John Cowan that his feedback on Pau Cin Hau was relayed to the author of L2/10-080.

[126-A33] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Work with Barun Kumar Sahu on Bengali Om. See L2/11-023.

[126-A34] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Sharma re 1CD3 VEDIC SIGN NIHSHVASA that the committee feels this annotation isn't necessary. Include response on TTTA and NNNA that the annotations won't be changed; they were requested by GOI.

[126-A35] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to koxinga@wanadoo.fr that the variants file has been fixed.

[126-A36] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Forward feedback from Brett Zamir and Robert Siemer on UAX #38 in L2/11-023 to John Jenkins requesting him to review. Rick McGowan to reply to both authors to say that feedback has been forwarded for review.

[126-A37] Action Item for John Jenkins, Editorial Committee: Review feedback from Brett Zamir and Robert Siemer in L2/11-023, and act accordingly for the next version of UAX #38.

[126-A38] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Anotonis Tsolomitis to thank for the feedback on this issue.

[126-A39] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to Dan Agren re U+1F4A0 to say that the name cannot be changed, but we are looking into changing the annotation. Then send to Kat Momoi to get his input and say we're not going to do what Agren asks, and suggest maybe changing annotation to "represents a flower shape meaning kawaii, cute".

[126-A40] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Make sure that feedback from Laurentiu Iancu is forwarded to Andy Heninger, and respond to Laurentiu to say that's been done.

[126-A41] Action Item for Eric Muller: Follow up on feedback re UAX #42 copy/paste error, and fix for Unicode 6.1.

[126-A42] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Ask the Linear A expert to review the Phaistos Disc feedback.

[126-A43] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to feedback on Phaistos Disc from Arie ten Cate that it is being investigated.

Adjourned for the day at 5:53.


February 8, 2011

Meeting opened at 9:30.

8 members represented: UCB, MS, Adobe, Yahoo, Google, IBM, SAP, Apple.

D.1 Review of Indic related L2 documents and recommendations to the UTC [Anderson, et al, L2/11-042]

On the phone: Selvakumar, Shriramana Sharma, Naga Ganesan, ?

[126-A44] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Relay to Gov't of India that based on the feedback received, the UTC does not see consensus on encoding the 7 Dravidian letters in Grantha.

[126-A45] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Produce a new Grantha chart and nameslist without the 7 Dravidian letters.

Ad hoc on Grantha at lunch: Rick, Debbie, Ken, Mani, Thillai.

C.5.4 Wingdings and Webdings symbols - Preliminary study [SEI/Suignard, L2/11-052]

[126-A46] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Prepare a draft proposal for encoding Wingdings based on L2/11-052.

Break for lunch and ad hoc at 11:38.

Meeting resumed at 1:05.

C.2.2 Proposal to add Arabic short vowel mark [Priest, L2/11-033]

[126-C6] Consensus: Accept U+08FF ARABIC MARK SIDEWAYS NOON GHUNNA for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[126-A47] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with U+08FF ARABIC MARK SIDEWAYS NOON GHUNNA.

[126-A48] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+08FF ARABIC MARK SIDEWAYS NOON GHUNNA to document requesting new additions to 10646.

[126-A49] Action Item for Lorna Priest: Update the document L2/11-033 and send to UTC and WG2.

C.2.1 Proposal to encode an Arabic letter mark (ALM) [Allouche, Mohie, L2/11-005]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.6.2 Proposal to add two kana characters [Lunde, L2/10-468]

[126-C7] Consensus: Accept U+1B002 HIRAGANA LETTER SMALL KO and U+1B003 KATAKANA LETTER SMALL KO for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[126-A50] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with U+1B002 HIRAGANA LETTER SMALL KO and U+1B003 KATAKANA LETTER SMALL KO.

[126-A51] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+1B002 HIRAGANA LETTER SMALL KO and U+1B003 KATAKANA LETTER SMALL KO to document requesting new additions to 10646.

[126-A52] Action Item for Ken Lunde: Update the document L2/10-468 to add collation info and send to UTC and WG2.

C.6.1 Report of phonetic kana usage for lingua Latina [Katō, L2/10-153]

[126-A53] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Rick McGowan: Provide feedback to Katō on L2/10-153.

C.2.1 Proposal to encode an Arabic letter mark (ALM) [Allouche, Mohie, L2/11-005]

[126-A54] Action Item for Peter Edberg: Drive the development of a unified document suitable for public review, and coordinate contributions from Murray Sargent, Mark Davis, Mati Allouche, Mohamed Mohie, for the May UTC meeting. See L2/11-005.

C.5.1 Proposal to encode three additional emoticons (WG2 N3982; replaces L2/10-429) [German NB, L2/11-037]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.5.2 Revised Proposal to encode a punctuation mark "Double Hyphen" (WG2 N3983; replaces L2/10-361) [German NB, L2/11-038]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.5.3 Proposal to encode a Subscript Solidus (WG2 N3980) [German NB, L2/11-039] [126-C8] Consensus: Add SUBSCRIPT SOLIDUS to the archive of non-approval notices.

[126-A55] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the archive of non-approval notices to include SUBSCRIPT SOLIDUS.

C.9 Proposal to encode GREEK CAPITAL LETTER YOT [Bobeck, L2/10-474]

[126-C9] Consensus: Accept U+037F GREEK CAPITAL LETTER YOT with properties as specified in L2/10-474 for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[126-A56] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with U+037F GREEK CAPITAL LETTER YOT.

[126-A57] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+037F GREEK CAPITAL LETTER YOT to document requesting new additions to 10646.

[126-A58] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Contact Mike Ksar to update L2/10-474 with the correct L2 number and WG2 number in the WG2 register. (Both are incorrect.)

C.11 Revised Proposal to encode characters for the English Phonotypic Alphabet [German NB, L2/11-040]

[126-A59] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Karl Pentzlin and German NB with UTC comments on L2/11-040. [DONE]

B.11.1.1 Case-insensitive matching in regular expressions in UTS-18 [Williamson, L2/11-030]

[126-C10] Consensus: Include in UTS #18 the recommendation that case-insensitive regex matching use simple case-folding.

[126-A60] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Include in UTS #18 the recommendation that case-insensitive regex matching use simple case-folding.

[126-A61] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Communicate the above result to Karl Williamson.

Adjourned for the day at 5:46


Wednesday, February 9, 2011

Meeting opened at 9:40.

6 members represented: UCB, MS, Adobe, SAP, Yahoo, IBM.

C.17 Bassa Vah Comma [Riley, L2/11-041]

[126-C11] Consensus: Rescind the approval of U+16AF5 BASSA VAH COMMA.

[126-A62] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with removal of U+16AF5 BASSA VAH COMMA.

[126-A63] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add removal of U+16AF5 BASSA VAH COMMA to ballot comments on PDAM 1 of 10646 3rd edition.

C.18 Proposal to add the Mandombe Script [Wabeladio, et al, L2/11-053]

[126-A64] Action Item for Eric Muller: Follow up with authors of Mandombe proposal L2/11-053 regarding their copyright and patent claims.

Roll call adjustment: Apple, Google arrived. 8 members now represented.

C.16.1 Opposition about encode Coptic Epact numeral system [Lazerk, L2/11-035]
C.16.2 Final proposal to encode Coptic Epact numbers [SEI/Pandey, L2/11-062]

Discussion.

[126-C12] Consensus: Give the Coptic Epact Numbers the script property "Common" and Script Extension Arabic and Coptic, for a future version of the standard.

[126-A65] Action Item for Mark Davis: Give the Coptic Epact Numbers the script property "Common" in a future version of the standard, after 6.1.

[126-A66] Action Item for Mark Davis: Give the Coptic Epact Numbers the Script Extension "Arabic and Coptic" in a future version of the standard, after 6.1.

[126-C13] Consensus: Rescind the acceptance of U+102FC COPTIC EPACT NUMBER MARK.

[126-A67] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with removal of U+102FC COPTIC EPACT NUMBER MARK.

[126-C14] Consensus: Accept U+0605 ARABIC NUMBER MARK ABOVE for encoding in a future version of the standard, with script = Arabic and Bidi Class = AN.

[126-A68] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with U+0605 ARABIC NUMBER MARK ABOVE.

[126-A69] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+0605 ARABIC NUMBER MARK ABOVE to ballot comments a request to change the name of U+0605 for PDAM 1.

C.7 Preliminary proposal for encoding the Elbasan script (WG2 N3856) [SEI/Everson, L2/11-050]

[126-C15] Consensus: Accept the 47 Elbasan letters with block "Elbasan" at U+10500 - U+1052F for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[126-A70] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with 47 Elbasan letters with block "Elbasan" at U+10500 - U+1052F.

[126-A71] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add 47 Elbasan letters with block "Elbasan" at U+10500 - U+1052F to document requesting new additions to 10646.

[126-A72] Action Item for Michael Everson: Send the Elbasan font and LST file to Michel Suignard.

C.8 Proposal for encoding the Nabataean script (WG2 N3969) [SEI/Everson, L2/10-473]

[126-C16] Consensus: Accept 40 Nabataean characters at U+10880 - U+108AF with block "Nabataean" U+10880 - U+108AF, for encoding in a future version of the standard, with properties as specified in L2/10-473.

[126-A73] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with 40 Nabataean characters at U+10880 - U+108AF with block "Nabataean" U+10880 - U+108AF.

[126-A74] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add 40 Nabataean characters at U+10880 - U+108AF with block "Nabataean" U+10880 - U+108AF to document requesting new additions to 10646.

[126-A75] Action Item for Michael Everson: Send the Nabataean font and LST file to Michel Suignard.

C.10 Revised proposal for encoding the Linear A script in the SMP [SEI/Everson, L2/10-422]

[126-C17] Consensus: Modify the acceptance of Linear A to: 341 Linear A characters at U+10600 - U+10767 with block Linear A U+10600 - U+1077F , for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[126-A76] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with changes to Linear A.

[126-A77] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add 341 Linear A characters at U+10600 - U+10767 with block Linear A U+10600 - U+1077F to document requesting new additions to 10646.

[126-A78] Action Item for Michael Everson: Send the Linear A font and LST file to Michel Suignard.

C.12 Preliminary proposal for encoding the Afaka script in the SMP (WG2 N3972) [SEI/Everson, L2/10-476]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

C.13 Preliminary proposal for encoding the Woleai script in the SMP (WG2 N3977) [SEI/Everson, L2/11-014]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

New agenda item added: B.11.3 Unicode Collation Algorithm.

C.14 Preliminary Proposal to add the Ahom Script [Hosken, Morey, L2/10-359]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

B.11.3.1 Proposal to re-order yogh in the UCA and ISO 14651 (WG2 N3782) [Everson, L2/10-078]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time. (See below.)

C.4.1 Proposal to add Variation Sequences for Latin and Cyrillic letters [Pentzlin, L2/11-059]

Long discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

Lunch 1:15 - 2:15

[126-A79] Action Item for Lisa Moore: Put L2/11-059 and L2/10-327 on the agenda for the May UTC meeting.

B.11.3.1 Proposal to re-order yogh in the UCA and ISO 14651 (WG2 N3782) [Everson, L2/10-078]

[126-C18] Consensus: Move the Yogh (U+021C, U+021D) to be immediately before letter Z in the DUCET for UCA 6.1.

[126-A80] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Move the Yogh (U+021C, U+021D) to be immediately before letter Z in the DUCET for UCA 6.1.

[126-A81] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Request Alain Labonte to put L2/10-078 (WG2 N3782) on the agenda for the next OWG SORT meeting in Helsinki.

B.1.4.3.3 US Ballot Comments

Discussion.

[126-C19] Consensus: Approve ballot comments on PDAM 1 as documented in L2/11-067.

B.1.4.2.5 Notes on the naming of some characters proposed in the FCD of ISO/IEC 10646:2012 [Pentzlin, L2/11-057]

Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

B.2.2.2 NP for a Technical Report titled "Information technology -- Specification methods for cultural conventions" [SC35, Simonsen, L2/11-012]

[126-C20] Consensus: UTC strongly opposes using L2/11-012 as the basis for a new work item on cultural conventions.

B.9 Unicode Locales Project (CLDR)
B.9.1 Liaison report [Davis]

Oral report by Mark Davis.

B.7 UC Berkeley Department of Linguistics - Script Encoding Initiative
B.7.1 Liaison report [Anderson, L2/11-049]

Oral report by Deborah Anderson.

B.12 Editorial Committee
B.12.1 Errata
B.12.2 Editorial Committee report [Whistler]

Oral report by Ken Whistler.

Adjourned for the day at 5:00.


Thursday, February 10, 2011

(Members meeting 9:45 - 10:35.)

UTC meeting opened at 10:45

8 members represented: UCB, MS, Apple, Adobe, SAP, Yahoo, IBM, Google.

C.2.4 Letter-making Arabic harakat [Pournader, L2/11-069]

Long discussion.

[126-C21] Consensus: If there is an Arabic letter proposed for encoding which has a hamza-shaped diacritic mark whose function is not an actual hamza, that letter should be encoded without decomposition.

[126-A82] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Provide appropriate documentation regarding decomposition decisions involving Arabic letters with hamza-shaped diacritics.

[126-C22] Consensus: Accept U+08A1 ARABIC LETTER BEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[126-A83] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with U+08A1 ARABIC LETTER BEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE.

[126-A84] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+08A1 ARABIC LETTER BEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE to document requesting new additions to 10646.

[126-A85] Action Item for Lorna Priest: Forward L2/10-442R to WG2.

[126-A86] Action Item for Mark Davis: Add U+08A1 to list of confusables, when it is encoded. L2/10-442R.

[126-A87] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Use L2/11-069 and L2/11-071 and as augmented by discussion to update the description of Arabic diacritic marks.

Lunch 1:00 - 2:00

[126-A88] (void)

C.16.1 Opposition about encode Coptic Epact numeral system [Lazerk, L2/11-035]

[126-A89] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Deborah Anderson: Reply to Azzeddine Lazrek regarding L2/11-035.

B.11.1.3 Draft PRI Text on Unicode Regular Expression Guidelines [Davis, L2/11-070]

[126-C23] Consensus: Post a PRI on proposed changes to Regex in UTS #18, based on L2/11-070, as modified in discussion.

[126-A90] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Draft final text for PRI on proposed Regex changes in UTS #18.

[126-A91] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post PRI on proposed changes to Regex in UTS #18, to close May 2, 2011.

B.11.1.4 Regex Clarifications [Davis, L2/11-072]

[126-C24] Consensus: Incorporate changes according to L2/11-072R into the proposed update of UTS #18.

[126-A92] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update the text of UTS #18 to incorporate changes according to L2/11-072R.

D.1 Review of Indic related L2 documents and recommendations to the UTC [Anderson, et al, L2/11-042]
D.9 Final Proposal to Encode the Khojki Script (WG2 N3978) [SEI/Pandey, L2/11-021]

[126-C25] Consensus: Approve the re-ordered codepoint assignments and new glyphs for Khojki, as documented in L2/11-021.

[126-A93] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with re-ordered codepoint assignments and new glyphs for Khojki, as documented in L2/11-021.

D.11 Submission of GURUNG SCRIPT [Gurung, L2/11-047]

[126-A94] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Rick McGowan: Follow up with author of L2/11-047 on Gurung script.

D.12.2 Determining the Encoding Model for Soyombo Vowels [Pandey, L2/11-054]

[126-A95] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Respond to author of L2/11-054 that UTC recommends approach #2 for the Soyombo vowels.

D.12.1 Comments on Soyombo and Xawtaa Dorboljin [Sharma, L2/10-467]

[126-A96] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to Shriramana Sharma re his questions on L2/10-467.

D.13 [Sharma's outstanding Indic topics] L2/11-073.

[126-A97] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Get back to Sharma on the 20F0 issue.

[126-A98] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Make sure that use of U+20F0 COMBINING ASTERISK ABOVE is documented with other Vedic issues for Unicode 6.1.

[126-A99] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Tell Shriramana Sharma that discussion of Grantha vowel signs for Vocalic L and LL are postponed until Grantha is encoded.

Adjourned for the day at 5:45.


Friday, February 11, 2011

UTC meeting opened at 10:45

8 members represented: UCB, MS, Apple(proxy), Adobe, SAP, Yahoo, IBM, Google(proxy).

D.1 Review of Indic related L2 documents and recommendations to the UTC [Anderson, et al, L2/11-042]

Various discussions under this topic follow below.

D.6 Request to annotate 1CD8 VEDIC TONE CANDRA BELOW [Sharma, L2/11-007]

[126-A100] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Editorial Comments: Update Vedic documentation based on information in L2/11-007 for Unicode 6.1.

D.7 Proposal to encode the letters GYAN and TRA for Limbu (WG2 N3975) [Pandey, L2/11-008]

[126-C26] Consensus: Accept U+191D LIMBU LETTER GYAN and U+191E LIMBU LETTER TRA for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[126-A101] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with U+191D LIMBU LETTER GYAN and U+191E LIMBU LETTER TRA.

[126-A102] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+191D LIMBU LETTER GYAN and U+191E LIMBU LETTER TRA to document requesting new additions to 10646.

[126-A103] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Follow up with Anshuman Pandey on the use of the two Limbu characters U+191D LIMBU LETTER GYAN and U+191E LIMBU LETTER TRA.

[126-A104] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Make sure a font is sent to Michel Suignard for new Limbu letters.

[126-A105] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Forward L2/11-008 Limbu proposal to WG2. (Try to add more info before submitting.)

D.3.2 Proposal to encode the Marwari letter DDA for Devanagari [Pandey, L2/10-475]

[126-C27] Consensus: Accept U+978 DEVANAGARI LETTER MARWARI DDA for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[126-A106] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with U+978 DEVANAGARI LETTER MARWARI DDA.

[126-A107] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+978 DEVANAGARI LETTER MARWARI DDA to document requesting new additions to 10646.

[126-A108] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Request the author of L2/10-475 to provide collation information in a clarified proposal.

[126-A109] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Make sure a font is sent to Michel Suignard for new Marwari DDA letter.

D.3.1 Comments on Devanagari short vowels [Sharma, L2/10-471]

[126-A110] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Editorial Committee: Work with text of Section 1 of L2/10-471 to come up with additional text for the standard. For Unicode 6.1.

D.4 Preliminary proposal to encode the Tikamuli script (revised; WG2 N3963) [SEI/Pandey, L2/10-465R]

[126-A111] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Relay feedback to Anshuman Pandey on L2/10-465R.

New agenda item added: C.19 Roadmap.

D.5 Preliminary proposal to encode the Jenticha script (revised; WG2 N3962) [SEI/Pandey, L2/10-466R]

[126-A112] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Relay feedback to Anshuman Pandey on L2/10-466R.

C.3.1 Proposal to encode some outstanding early Cyrillic characters in Unicode [Shardt, et al, L2/10-394R]

[126-C28] Consensus: Accept four Cyrillic letters,
U+A698 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER DOUBLE O
U+A699 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER DOUBLE O
U+A69A CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER CROSSED O
U+A69B CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER CROSSED O
for encoding in a future version of the standard. See L2/10-394R.

[126-A113] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with four new Cyrillic letters as in consensus 126-C28. See L2/10-394R.

[126-A114] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add four new Cyrillic letters as in consensus 126-C28 to document requesting new additions to 10646. See L2/10-394R.

[126-A115] Action Item for Rick McGowan: As Michael Everson for a font for 4 new Cyrillic letters in L2/10-394R.

[126-A116] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Ask Ralph Cleminson and Michael Everson to provide collation information for the Cyrillic letters as in consensus 126-C28.

[126-A117] (void)

[126-A118] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Ensure the document L2/11-394R is forwarded to WG2.

C.3.2 Proposal to encode the mark's chapter glyph [Shardt, et al, L2/11-031]

[126-C29] Consensus: Accept U+1F545 MARKS CHAPTER SYMBOL for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[126-A119] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with U+1F545 MARKS CHAPTER SYMBOL.

[126-A120] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+1F545 MARKS CHAPTER SYMBOL to document requesting new additions to 10646.

[126-A121] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Request authors to update proposal L2/11-031 and send to WG2.

[126-A122] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Request authors to provide a font for U+1F545 MARKS CHAPTER SYMBOL.

C.1.3.1 Proposal to incorporate symbols of ISO/IEC 9995-7:2009 and Amendment 1 into the UCS [L2/10-351]

[126-A123] Action Item for Eric Muller: Get copies of 9995-7 for the committee for review.

[126-A124] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Produce a document reflecting the discussion on SC35 N 1579 for submission to WG2. L2/11-078.

B.6.1 W3C Liaison report [Davis]

Oral report by Mark Davis.

Lunch 1:00 - 1:45.

C.1.3.1.1 Comments on ISO/IEC JTC1/SC35 N1579 [L2/11-078]

[126-C30] Consensus: Support the NB/liaison position on 9995-7 documented in L2/11-078.

B.2.3 14651

Discussion. Unicode to support this doc in L2.

[126-A125] Action Item for Lisa Moore: Add an agenda item to add "Discussion of the orientation of the symbols on the Phaistos Disc".

B.1.5 Review pipeline characters to ensure all new characters are in ballot comments or a separate document

[126-A126] Action Item for Lisa Moore: Put Duployan on the May UTC agenda.

B.1.6 Review of document requesting new additions [Anderson]

Discussion. Unicode to support submission of this doc to WG2.

B.1.4.2.6 Ballot comments on 10646 3rd Edition [Anderson, L2/11-068]

Discussion. Unicode to support this doc in L2.

B.1.4.3.3 Ballot comments on 3rd Edition Amd 1 [Anderson, L2/11-067]

Discussion. Unicode to support this doc in L2.

Thanks to the host.

UTC adjourned at 2:50 pm.

L2 continued at 3:00 pm.


UTC Attendance

Person Representing E-mail Address
Deborah Anderson U C Berkeley dwanders@sonic.net
Peter Constable Microsoft petercon@microsoft.com
Craig Cummings Yahoo! crc@yahoo-inc.com
Mark Davis Google mark.davis@google.com
Peter Edberg Apple pedberg@apple.com
Mike Ksar WG2 mikeksar@10646.com
Thillai Kumaran INFITT Thillaikumaran@gmail.com
Chris Little LSA chrislit@berkeley.edu
Mani Manivannan INFITT mmanivannan@gmail.com
Rick McGowan Unicode rick@unicode.org
Lisa Moore IBM lisam@us.ibm.com
Eric Muller Adobe emuller@adobe.com
Roozbeh Pournader Gnome roozbeh@htpassport.com
Lorna Priest SIL Lorna_Priest@sil.org
Murray Sargent Microsoft murrays@microsoft.com
Michel Suignard Unicode michel@unicode.org
Tex Texin Xencraft textexin@xencraft.com
Ken Whistler Sybase kenw@sybase.com
     
By Phone
Michael Everson Evertype everson@evertype.com
Naga Ganesan self  
C.R. Selvakumar self  
Shriramana Sharma self  

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