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CLDR Ticket #10030(new unknown)

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Reopen ticket 9950; the resolution is erroneous; The names of the Swedish "län" (provinces/regions) in subdivisions/en.xml are in error

Reported by: kent.karlsson14@… Owned by: anybody
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ticket:9950

Description

Since I don't seem to be able to reopen the ticket, I issue a new one here. The resolution of 9950 misses the point completely.

http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/browser/trunk/common/subdivisions/en.xml has this data:

4329	                <!-- SE : Sweden -->
4330	                        <subdivision type="SE-AB">Stockholm</subdivision>
4331	                        <subdivision type="SE-AC">Västerbotten</subdivision>
4332	                        <subdivision type="SE-BD">Norrbotten</subdivision>
4333	                        <subdivision type="SE-C">Uppsala</subdivision>
4334	                        <subdivision type="SE-D">Södermanland</subdivision>
4335	                        <subdivision type="SE-E">Östergötland</subdivision>
4336	                        <subdivision type="SE-F">Jönköping</subdivision>
4337	                        <subdivision type="SE-G">Kronoberg</subdivision>
4338	                        <subdivision type="SE-H">Kalmar</subdivision>
4339	                        <subdivision type="SE-I">Gotland</subdivision>
4340	                        <subdivision type="SE-K">Blekinge</subdivision>
4341	                        <subdivision type="SE-M">Skåne</subdivision>
4342	                        <subdivision type="SE-N">Halland</subdivision>
4343	                        <subdivision type="SE-O">Västra Götaland</subdivision>
4344	                        <subdivision type="SE-S">Värmland</subdivision>
4345	                        <subdivision type="SE-T">Örebro</subdivision>
4346	                        <subdivision type="SE-U">Västmanland</subdivision>
4347	                        <subdivision type="SE-W">Dalarna</subdivision>
4348	                        <subdivision type="SE-X">Gävleborg</subdivision>
4349	                        <subdivision type="SE-Y">Västernorrland</subdivision>
4350	                        <subdivision type="SE-Z">Jämtland</subdivision>

I'm not sure from where you have picked up these names, but they are in error.

For example, Kalmar and Stockholm are cities (actually municipalities/"kommuner"), and only a small part of "Stockholms län"; and "Dalarna" is a "landskap" much larger than "Dalarnas län". Etc.

For more details, see ticket 9950.

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comment:1 in reply to: ↑ description ; follow-up: ↓ 2 Changed 5 months ago by doug@…

Replying to kent.karlsson14@…:

I'm not sure from where you have picked up these names, but they are in error.

Probably from here: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:SE

comment:2 in reply to: ↑ 1 Changed 5 months ago by doug@…

Replying to doug@…:

Replying to kent.karlsson14@…:

I'm not sure from where you have picked up these names, but they are in error.

Probably from here: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:SE

Sorry, you are correct that the 3166-2 names have been changed here, from e.g. Dalarnas län to Dalarna.

comment:3 Changed 5 months ago by kent.karlsson14@…

The names in https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:SE appear to be correct (and also gives the number codes, see next paragraph).

There is another thing, unrelated to the naming issue: The letter codes are less and less used (even though they were popular when car registrations used them, but that is long gone). I think their use will go down even more, esp. if there are major mergers (as has been suggested). For instance, the Swedish statistics bureau (SCB) uses the number codes instead. See http://www.scb.se/sv_/Hitta-statistik/Regional-statistik-och-kartor/Regionala-indelningar/Lan-och-kommuner/Lan-och-kommuner-i-kodnummerordning/. Likewise in Norway: see http://www.kartverket.no/kunnskap/fakta-om-norge/Fylker-og-kommuner/Tabell/, where the fylke-letters have been abandoned completely (only used for car registrations? https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kjennemerke_for_motorkj%C3%B8ret%C3%B8y_i_Norge#Historie).

And... each of the län/fylke and municipalities (kommuner) in Sweden and Norway have their own (official) flag... (just FYI, but the subregion flag proposal might be applicable, both for län/fylke and municipalities). (Some have inofficial flags too.)

comment:4 Changed 5 months ago by kent.karlsson14@…

common/supplemental/subdivisions.xml


For Sweden, please use the modern numeric codes for the "top level subdivision" (län). They are
given in https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:SE, but after the region name. While the
old letter codes seem to be kept for mostly historical reasons, in actual use (by e.g. SCB)
are the numeric codes.

Also consider including the next level of (official, current) subdivision: municipalities/"kommuner".
For Sweden and Norway, each län/fylke/region and municipality/kommun has an official flag...
And these flags are in "popular" use (in *official* publications/web pages) in the respective
region/subregion. (This does not appear to be the case for Denmark and Finland...)

In addition we have Svalbard and Jan Mayen (for Norway) as well as Åland (for Finland) where
the major subdivision codes for Norway and Finland (respectively) cover these areas, but they
also have their own ISO country codes.


Sweden
OLD:

<subgroup type="SE" contains="seab seac sebd sec sed see sef seg seh sei sek sem sen seo ses set seu sew sex sey sez"/>

NEW (please use the modern numeric codes, rather than the old letter codes, for the län):

<subgroup type="SE" contains="se01 se03 se04 se05 se06 se07 se08 se09 se10 se12 se13 se14 se17 se18 se19 se20 se21 se22 se23 se24 se25"/>

<subgroup type="se01" contains="se0114 se0115 se0117 se0120 se0123 se0125 se0126 se0127 se0128 se0136 se0138 se0139 se0140 se0160 se0162 se0163 se0180 se0181 se0182 se0183 se0184 se0186 se0187 se0188 se0191 se0192"/>
<subgroup type="se03" contains="se0305 se0319 se0330 se0331 se0360 se0380 se0381 se0382"/>
<subgroup type="se04" contains="se0428 se0461 se0480 se0481 se0482 se0483 se0484 se0486 se0488"/>
<subgroup type="se05" contains="se0509 se0512 se0513 se0560 se0561 se0562 se0563 se0580 se0581 se0582 se0583 se0584 se0586"/>
<subgroup type="se06" contains="se0604 se0617 se0642 se0643 se0662 se0665 se0680 se0682 se0683 se0684 se0685 se0686 se0687"/>
<subgroup type="se07" contains="se0760 se0761 se0763 se0764 se0765 se0767 se0780 se0781"/>
<subgroup type="se08" contains="se0821 se0834 se0840 se0860 se0861 se0862 se0880 se0881 se0882 se0883 se0884 se0885"/>
<subgroup type="se09" contains="se0980"/>
<subgroup type="se10" contains="se1060 se1080 se1081 se1082 se1083"/>
<subgroup type="se12" contains="se1214 se1230 se1231 se1233 se1256 se1257 se1260 se1261 se1262 se1263 se1264 se1265 se1266 se1267 se1270 se1272 se1273 se1275 se1276 se1277 se1278 se1280 se1281 se1282 se1283 se1284 se1285 se1286 se1287 se1290 se1291 se1292 se1293"/>
<subgroup type="se13" contains="se1315 se1380 se1381 se1382 se1383 se1384"/>
<subgroup type="se14" contains="se1401 se1402 se1407 se1415 se1419 se1421 se1427 se1430 se1435 se1438 se1439 se1440 se1441 se1442 se1443 se1444 se1445 se1446 se1447 se1452 se1460 se1461 se1462 se1463 se1465 se1466 se1470 se1471 se1472 se1473 se1480 se1481 se1482 se1484 se1485 se1486 se1487 se1488 se1489 se1490 se1491 se1492 se1493 se1494 se1495 se1496 se1497 se1498 se1499"/>
<subgroup type="se17" contains="se1715 se1730 se1737 se1760 se1761 se1762 se1763 se1764 se1765 se1766 se1780 se1781 se1782 se1783 se1784 se1785"/>
<subgroup type="se18" contains="se1814 se1860 se1861 se1862 se1863 se1864 se1880 se1881 se1882 se1883 se1884 se1885"/>
<subgroup type="se19" contains="se1904 se1907 se1960 se1961 se1962 se1980 se1981 se1982 se1983 se1984"/>
<subgroup type="se20" contains="se2021 se2023 se2026 se2029 se2031 se2034 se2039 se2061 se2062 se2080 se2081 se2082 se2083 se2084 se2085"/>
<subgroup type="se21" contains="se2101 se2104 se2121 se2132 se2161 se2180 se2181 se2182 se2183 se2184"/>
<subgroup type="se22" contains="se2260 se2262 se2280 se2281 se2282 se2283 se22842"/>
<subgroup type="se23" contains="se2303 se2305 se2309 se2313 se2321 se2326 se2361 se2380"/>
<subgroup type="se24" contains="se2401 se2403 se2404 se2409 se2417 se2418 se2421 se2422 se2425 se2460 se2462 se2463 se2480 se2481 se2482"/>
<subgroup type="se25" contains="se2505 se2506 se2510 se2513 se2514 se2518 se2521 se2523 se2560 se2580 se2581 se2582 se2583 se2584"/>

Norway
OLD:

<subgroup type="NO" contains="no01 no02 no03 no04 no05 no06 no07 no08 no09 no10 no11 no12 no14 no15 no16 no17 no18 no19 no20 no21 no22"/>

NEW:

<subgroup type="NO" contains="no01 no02 no03 no04 no05 no06 no07 no08 no09 no10 no11 no12 no14 no15 no16 no17 no18 no19 no20 no21 no22"/><!-- SJ here (too) or _replace_ no21 no22 with SJ?-->
<subgroup type="SJ" contains="no21 no22"/>

<subgroup type="no01" contains="no0101 no0104 no0105 no0106 no0111 no0118 no0119 no0121 no0122 no0123 no0124 no0125 no0127 no0128 no0135 no0136 no0137 no0138"/>
<subgroup type="no02" contains="no0211 no0213 no0214 no0215 no0216 no0217 no0219 no0220 no0221 no0226 no0227 no0228 no0229 no0230 no0231 no0233 no0234 no0235 no0236 no0237 no0238 no0239"/>
<subgroup type="no03" contains="no0301"/>
<subgroup type="no04" contains="no0402 no0403 no0412 no0415 no0417 no0418 no0419 no0420 no0423 no0425 no0426 no0427 no0428 no0429 no0430 no0432 no0434 no0436 no0437 no0438 no0439 no0441"/>
<subgroup type="no05" contains="no0501 no0502 no0511 no0512 no0513 no0514 no0515 no0516 no0517 no0519 no0520 no0521 no0522 no0528 no0529 no0532 no0533 no0534 no0536 no0538 no0540 no0541 no0542 no0543 no0544 no0545"/>
<subgroup type="no06" contains="no0602 no0604 no0605 no0612 no0615 no0616 no0617 no0618 no0619 no0620 no0621 no0622 no0623 no0624 no0625 no0626 no0627 no0628 no0631 no0632 no0633"/>
<subgroup type="no07" contains="no0701 no0702 no0704 no0709 no0710 no0711 no0713 no0714 no0716 no0722 no0723 no0728"/>
<subgroup type="no08" contains="no0805 no0806 no0807 no0811 no0814 no0815 no0817 no0819 no0821 no0822 no0826 no0827 no0828 no0829 no0830 no0831 no0833 no0834"/>
<subgroup type="no09" contains="no0901 no0904 no0906 no0911 no0912 no0914 no0919 no0926 no0928 no0929 no0935 no0937 no0938 no0940 no0941"/>
<subgroup type="no10" contains="no1001 no1002 no1003 no1004 no1014 no1017 no1018 no1021 no1026 no1027 no1029 no1032 no1034 no1037 no1046"/>
<subgroup type="no11" contains="no1101 no1102 no1103 no1106 no1111 no1112 no1114 no1119 no1120 no1121 no1122 no1124 no1127 no1129 no1130 no1133 no1134 no1135 no1141 no1142 no1144 no1145 no1146 no1149 no1151 no1160"/>
<subgroup type="no12" contains="no1201 no1211 no1216 no1219 no1221 no1222 no1223 no1224 no1227 no1228 no1231 no1232 no1233 no1234 no1235 no1238 no1241 no1242 no1243 no1244 no1245 no1246 no1247 no1251 no1252 no1253 no1256 no1259 no1260 no1263 no1264 no1265 no1266"/>
<subgroup type="no14" contains="no1401 no1411 no1412 no1413 no1416 no1417 no1418 no1419 no1420 no1421 no1422 no1424 no1426 no1428 no1429 no1430 no1431 no1432 no1433 no1438 no1439 no1441 no1443 no1444 no1445 no1449"/>
<subgroup type="no15" contains="no1502 no1504 no1505 no1511 no1514 no1515 no1516 no1517 no1519 no1520 no1523 no1524 no1525 no1526 no1528 no1529 no1531 no1532 no1534 no1535 no1539 no1543 no1545 no1546 no1547 no1548 no1551 no1554 no1557 no1560 no1563 no1566 no1567 no1571 no1573 no1576"/>
<subgroup type="no16" contains="no1601 no1612 no1613 no1617 no1620 no1621 no1622 no1624 no1627 no1630 no1632 no1633 no1634 no1635 no1636 no1638 no1640 no1644 no1648 no1653 no1657 no1662 no1663 no1664 no1665"/>
<subgroup type="no17" contains="no1702 no1703 no1711 no1714 no1717 no1718 no1719 no1721 no1724 no1725 no1736 no1738 no1739 no1740 no1742 no1743 no1744 no1748 no1749 no1750 no1751 no1755 no1756"/>
<subgroup type="no18" contains="no1804 no1805 no1811 no1812 no1813 no1815 no1816 no1818 no1820 no1822 no1824 no1825 no1826 no1827 no1828 no1832 no1833 no1834 no1835 no1836 no1837 no1838 no1839 no1840 no1841 no1845 no1848 no1849 no1850 no1851 no1852 no1853 no1854 no1856 no1857 no1859 no1860 no1865 no1866 no1867 no1868 no1870 no1871 no1874"/>
<subgroup type="no19" contains="no1903 no1902 no1911 no1913 no1917 no1919 no1920 no1922 no1923 no1924 no1925 no1926 no1927 no1928 no1929 no1931 no1933 no1936 no1938 no1939 no1940 no1941 no1942 no1943"/>
<subgroup type="no20" contains="no2002 no2003 no2004 no2011 no2012 no2014 no2015 no2017 no2018 no2019 no2020 no2021 no2022 no2023 no2024 no2025 no2027 no2028 no2030"/>

Finland, Åland; add:

<subgroup type="AX" contains="fi01"/><!-- and say that FI contains AX? or _replace_ fi01 with AX for FI?-->

comment:5 Changed 5 months ago by kent.karlsson14@…

Here are the names for the subdivisions (län/fylke/region) and subsubdivisions
("kommuner"/municipalities) of Sweden and Norway in CLDR XML format (XML snippets).

Plus a comment on the Danish region names (given first).

Also included are the subsubregion (municipipality) names for Sweden and Norway.
(But not for Denmark and Finland, since I did not find a nice list with codes...)


Denmark

The Danish region names really should include the word "Region" (e.g. "Region Hovedstaden"
rather than just "Hovedstaden" (which literally means "capital city")). Note that the
capital city (Copenhagen/København) is just PART of "Region Hovedstaden". Similarly (but opposite),
"Region Sjælland" is only part of the island "Sjælland" (the other part is "Region Hovedstaden").
In actual use, the word "Region" seems to generally be included in the names of these regions.
Indeed, in an international context, for Region Hovedstaden, it may be better with the name
"Region København" (or "Copenhagen region").

(B.t.w., Denmark has already done mergers similar to those repeatedly suggested for Sweden.)


Sweden

Source:
http://www.scb.se/sv_/Hitta-statistik/Regional-statistik-och-kartor/Regionala-indelningar/Lan-och-kommuner/Lan-och-kommuner-i-kodnummerordning/</subdivision>

The names are in Swedish, even though some may be translatable to English, I think that might not be a good idea.

<subdivision type="se01">Stockholms län</subdivision><!--sometimes referred to as Stor-Stockholm or Storstockholm-->
<subdivision type="se0114">Upplands Väsby</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0115">Vallentuna</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0117">Österåker</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0120">Värmdö</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0123">Järfälla</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0125">Ekerö</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0126">Huddinge</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0127">Botkyrka</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0128">Salem</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0136">Haninge</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0138">Tyresö</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0139">Upplands-Bro</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0140">Nykvarn</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0160">Täby</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0162">Danderyd</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0163">Sollentuna</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0180">Stockholm</subdivision><!--NOTE: only a small part of Stockholms län-->
<subdivision type="se0181">Södertälje</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0182">Nacka</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0183">Sundbyberg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0184">Solna</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0186">Lidingö</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0187">Vaxholm</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0188">Norrtälje</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0191">Sigtuna</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0192">Nynäshamn</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se03">Uppsala län</subdivision><!--(nit: to be REALLY systematic, it should have been Uppsalas län, but no)-->
<subdivision type="se0305">Håbo</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0319">Älvkarleby</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0330">Knivsta</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0331">Heby</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0360">Tierp</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0380">Uppsala</subdivision><!--NOTE: only a small part of Uppsala län-->
<subdivision type="se0381">Enköping</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0382">Östhammar</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se04">Södermanlands län</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0428">Vingåker</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0461">Gnesta</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0480">Nyköping</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0481">Oxelösund</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0482">Flen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0483">Katrineholm</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0484">Eskilstuna</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0486">Strängnäs</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0488">Trosa</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se05">Östergötlands län</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0509">Ödeshög</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0512">Ydre</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0513">Kinda</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0560">Boxholm</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0561">Åtvidaberg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0562">Finspång</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0563">Valdemarsvik</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0580">Linköping</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0581">Norrköping</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0582">Söderköping</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0583">Motala</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0584">Vadstena</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0586">Mjölby</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se06">Jönköpings län</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0604">Aneby</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0617">Gnosjö</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0642">Mullsjö</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0643">Habo</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0662">Gislaved</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0665">Vaggeryd</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0680">Jönköping</subdivision><!--NOTE: only a small part of Jönköpings län-->
<subdivision type="se0682">Nässjö</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0683">Värnamo</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0684">Sävsjö</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0685">Vetlanda</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0686">Eksjö</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0687">Tranås</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se07">Kronobergs län</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0760">Uppvidinge</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0761">Lessebo</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0763">Tingsryd</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0764">Alvesta</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0765">Älmhult</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0767">Markaryd</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0780">Växjö</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0781">Ljungby</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se08">Kalmar län</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0821">Högsby</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0834">Torsås</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0840">Mörbylånga</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0860">Hultsfred</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0861">Mönsterås</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0862">Emmaboda</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0880">Kalmar</subdivision><!--NOTE: only a small part of Kalmar län-->
<subdivision type="se0881">Nybro</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0882">Oskarshamn</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0883">Västervik</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0884">Vimmerby</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se0885">Borgholm</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se09">Gotlands län</subdivision><!--yes, there is only one municipality in this län-->
<subdivision type="se0980">Gotland</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se10">Blekinge län</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1060">Olofström</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1080">Karlskrona</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1081">Ronneby</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1082">Karlshamn</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1083">Sölvesborg</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se12">Skåne län</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1214">Svalöv</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1230">Staffanstorp</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1231">Burlöv</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1233">Vellinge</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1256">Östra Göinge</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1257">Örkelljunga</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1260">Bjuv</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1261">Kävlinge</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1262">Lomma</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1263">Svedala</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1264">Skurup</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1265">Sjöbo</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1266">Hörby</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1267">Höör</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1270">Tomelilla</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1272">Bromölla</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1273">Osby</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1275">Perstorp</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1276">Klippan</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1277">Åstorp</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1278">Båstad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1280">Malmö</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1281">Lund</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1282">Landskrona</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1283">Helsingborg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1284">Höganäs</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1285">Eslöv</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1286">Ystad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1287">Trelleborg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1290">Kristianstad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1291">Simrishamn</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1292">Ängelholm</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1293">Hässleholm</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se13">Hallands län</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1315">Hylte</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1380">Halmstad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1381">Laholm</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1382">Falkenberg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1383">Varberg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1384">Kungsbacka</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se14">Västra Götalands län</subdivision><!--(since this is the result of a merger, and rather large, it is in some contexts referred to as Västra Götalandsregionen)-->
<subdivision type="se1401">Härryda</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1402">Partille</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1407">Öckerö</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1415">Stenungsund</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1419">Tjörn</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1421">Orust</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1427">Sotenäs</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1430">Munkedal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1435">Tanum</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1438">Dals-Ed</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1439">Färgelanda</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1440">Ale</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1441">Lerum</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1442">Vårgårda</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1443">Bollebygd</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1444">Grästorp</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1445">Essunga</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1446">Karlsborg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1447">Gullspång</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1452">Tranemo</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1460">Bengtsfors</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1461">Mellerud</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1462">Lilla Edet</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1463">Mark</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1465">Svenljunga</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1466">Herrljunga</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1470">Vara</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1471">Götene</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1472">Tibro</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1473">Töreboda</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1480">Göteborg</subdivision><!--(see also https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storg%C3%B6teborg, which is Göteborg plus nearby municipalities)-->
<subdivision type="se1481">Mölndal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1482">Kungälv</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1484">Lysekil</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1485">Uddevalla</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1486">Strömstad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1487">Vänersborg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1488">Trollhättan</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1489">Alingsås</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1490">Borås</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1491">Ulricehamn</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1492">Åmål</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1493">Mariestad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1494">Lidköping</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1495">Skara</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1496">Skövde</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1497">Hjo</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1498">Tidaholm</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1499">Falköping</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se17">Värmlands län</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1715">Kil</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1730">Eda</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1737">Torsby</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1760">Storfors</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1761">Hammarö</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1762">Munkfors</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1763">Forshaga</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1764">Grums</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1765">Årjäng</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1766">Sunne</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1780">Karlstad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1781">Kristinehamn</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1782">Filipstad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1783">Hagfors</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1784">Arvika</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1785">Säffle</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se18">Örebro län</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1814">Lekeberg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1860">Laxå</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1861">Hallsberg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1862">Degerfors</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1863">Hällefors</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1864">Ljusnarsberg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1880">Örebro</subdivision><!--NOTE: only a small part of Örebro län-->
<subdivision type="se1881">Kumla</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1882">Askersund</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1883">Karlskoga</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1884">Nora</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1885">Lindesberg</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se19">Västmanlands län</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1904">Skinnskatteberg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1907">Surahammar</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1960">Kungsör</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1961">Hallstahammar</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1962">Norberg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1980">Västerås</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1981">Sala</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1982">Fagersta</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1983">Köping</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se1984">Arboga</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se20">Dalarnas län</subdivision><!--NOTE: only a small part of Dalarna (the county/grevskap/landskap)-->
<subdivision type="se2021">Vansbro</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2023">Malung-Sälen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2026">Gagnef</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2029">Leksand</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2031">Rättvik</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2034">Orsa</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2039">Älvdalen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2061">Smedjebacken</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2062">Mora</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2080">Falun</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2081">Borlänge</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2082">Säter</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2083">Hedemora</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2084">Avesta</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2085">Ludvika</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se21">Gävleborgs län</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2101">Ockelbo</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2104">Hofors</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2121">Ovanåker</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2132">Nordanstig</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2161">Ljusdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2180">Gävle</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2181">Sandviken</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2182">Söderhamn</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2183">Bollnäs</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2184">Hudiksvall</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se22">Västernorrlands län</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2260">Ånge</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2262">Timrå</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2280">Härnösand</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2281">Sundsvall</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2282">Kramfors</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2283">Sollefteå</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2284">Örnsköldsvik</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se23">Jämtlands län</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2303">Ragunda</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2305">Bräcke</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2309">Krokom</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2313">Strömsund</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2321">Åre</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2326">Berg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2361">Härjedalen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2380">Östersund</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se24">Västerbottens län</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2401">Nordmaling</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2403">Bjurholm</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2404">Vindeln</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2409">Robertsfors</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2417">Norsjö</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2418">Malå</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2421">Storuman</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2422">Sorsele</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2425">Dorotea</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2460">Vännäs</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2462">Vilhelmina</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2463">Åsele</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2480">Umeå</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2481">Lycksele</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2482">Skellefteå</subdivision>

<subdivision type="se25">Norrbottens län</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2505">Arvidsjaur</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2506">Arjeplog</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2510">Jokkmokk</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2513">Överkalix</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2514">Kalix</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2518">Övertorneå</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2521">Pajala</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2523">Gällivare</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2560">Älvsbyn</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2580">Luleå</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2581">Piteå</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2582">Boden</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2583">Haparanda</subdivision>
<subdivision type="se2584">Kiruna</subdivision>

Norway

Source:
http://www.kartverket.no/kunnskap/fakta-om-norge/Fylker-og-kommuner/Tabell/
(with minor fixes, plus language indication where appropriate; no=nn+nb is default)

<subdivision type="no01">Østfold</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0101">Halden</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0104">Moss</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0105">Sarpsborg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0106">Fredrikstad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0111">Hvaler</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0118">Aremark</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0119">Marker</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0121">Rømskog</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0122">Trøgstad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0123">Spydeberg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0124">Askim</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0125">Eidsberg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0127">Skiptvet</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0128">Rakkestad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0135">Råde</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0136">Rygge</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0137">Våler</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0138">Hobøl</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no02">Akershus</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0211">Vestby</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0213">Ski</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0214">Ås</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0215">Frogn</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0216">Nesodden</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0217">Oppegård</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0219">Bærum</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0220">Asker</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0221">Aurskog-Høland</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0226">Sørum</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0227">Fet</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0228">Rælingen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0229">Enebakk</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0230">Lørenskog</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0231">Skedsmo</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0233">Nittedal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0234">Gjerdrum</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0235">Ullensaker</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0236">Nes</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0237">Eidsvoll</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0238">Nannestad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0239">Hurdal</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no03">Oslo fylke</subdivision><!--yes, only one kommune/municipality in this fylke-->
<subdivision type="no0301">Oslo</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no04">Hedmark</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0402">Kongsvinger</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0403">Hamar</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0412">Ringsaker</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0415">Løten</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0417">Stange</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0418">Nord-Odal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0419">Sør-Odal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0420">Eidskog</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0423">Grue</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0425">Åsnes</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0426">Våler</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0427">Elverum</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0428">Trysil</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0429">Åmot</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0430">Stor-Elvdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0432">Rendalen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0434">Engerdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0436">Tolga</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0437">Tynset</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0438">Alvdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0439">Folldal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0441">Os</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no05">Oppland</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0501">Lillehammer</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0502">Gjøvik</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0511">Dovre</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0512">Lesja</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0513">Skjåk</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0514">Lom</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0515">Vågå</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0516">Nord-Fron</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0517">Sel</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0519">Sør-Fron</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0520">Ringebu</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0521">Øyer</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0522">Gausdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0528">Østre Toten</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0529">Vestre Toten</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0532">Jevnaker</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0533">Lunner</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0534">Gran</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0536">Søndre Land</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0538">Nordre Land</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0540">Sør-Aurdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0541">Etnedal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0542">Nord-Aurdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0543">Vestre Slidre</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0544">Øystre Slidre</subdivision><!--[nb], Austre Slidre [nn]-->
<subdivision type="no0545">Vang</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no06">Buskerud</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0602">Drammen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0604">Kongsberg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0605">Ringerike</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0612">Hole</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0615">Flå</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0616">Nes</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0617">Gol</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0618">Hemsedal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0619">Ål</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0620">Hol</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0621">Sigdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0622">Krødsherad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0623">Modum</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0624">Øvre Eiker</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0625">Nedre Eiker</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0626">Lier</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0627">Røyken</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0628">Hurum</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0631">Flesberg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0632">Rollag</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0633">Nore og Uvdal</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no07">Vestfold</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0701">Horten</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0702">Holmestrand</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0704">Tønsberg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0709">Larvik</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0710">Sandefjord</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0711">Svelvik</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0713">Sande</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0714">Hof</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0716">Re</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0722">Nøtterøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0723">Tjøme</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0728">Lardal</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no08">Telemark</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0805">Porsgrunn</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0806">Skien</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0807">Notodden</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0811">Siljan</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0814">Bamble</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0815">Kragerø</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0817">Drangedal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0819">Nome</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0821">Bø</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0822">Sauherad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0826">Tinn</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0827">Hjartdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0828">Seljord</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0829">Kviteseid</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0830">Nissedal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0831">Fyresdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0833">Tokke</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0834">Vinje</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no09">Aust-Agder</subdivision><!--[nn], Øst-Agder [nb]-->
<subdivision type="no0901">Risør</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0904">Grimstad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0906">Arendal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0911">Gjerstad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0912">Vegårshei</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0914">Tvedestrand</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0919">Froland</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0926">Lillesand</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0928">Birkenes</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0929">Åmli</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0935">Iveland</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0937">Evje og Hornnes</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0938">Bygland</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0940">Valle</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no0941">Bykle</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no10">Vest-Agder</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1001">Kristiansand</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1002">Mandal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1003">Farsund</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1004">Flekkefjord</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1014">Vennesla</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1017">Songdalen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1018">Søgne</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1021">Marnardal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1026">Åseral</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1027">Audnedal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1029">Lindesnes</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1032">Lyngdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1034">Hægebostad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1037">Kvinesdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1046">Sirdal</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no11">Rogaland</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1101">Eigersund</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1102">Sandnes</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1103">Stavanger</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1106">Haugesund</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1111">Sokndal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1112">Lund</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1114">Bjerkreim</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1119">Hå</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1120">Klepp</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1121">Time</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1122">Gjesdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1124">Sola</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1127">Randaberg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1129">Forsand</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1130">Strand</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1133">Hjelmeland</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1134">Suldal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1135">Sauda</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1141">Finnøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1142">Rennesøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1144">Kvitsøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1145">Bokn</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1146">Tysvær</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1149">Karmøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1151">Utsira</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1160">Vindafjord</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no12">Hordaland</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1201">Bergen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1211">Etne</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1216">Sveio</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1219">Bømlo</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1221">Stord</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1222">Fitjar</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1223">Tysnes</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1224">Kvinnherad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1227">Jondal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1228">Odda</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1231">Ullensvang</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1232">Eidfjord</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1233">Ulvik</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1234">Granvin</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1235">Voss</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1238">Kvam</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1241">Fusa</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1242">Samnanger</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1243">Os</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1244">Austevoll</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1245">Sund</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1246">Fjell</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1247">Askøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1251">Vaksdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1252">Modalen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1253">Osterøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1256">Meland</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1259">Øygarden</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1260">Radøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1263">Lindås</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1264">Austrheim</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1265">Fedje</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1266">Masfjorden</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no14">Sogn og Fjordane</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1401">Flora</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1411">Gulen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1412">Solund</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1413">Hyllestad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1416">Høyanger</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1417">Vik</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1418">Balestrand</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1419">Leikanger</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1420">Sogndal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1421">Aurland</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1422">Lærdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1424">Årdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1426">Luster</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1428">Askvoll</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1429">Fjaler</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1430">Gaular</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1431">Jølster</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1432">Førde</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1433">Naustdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1438">Bremanger</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1439">Vågsøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1441">Selje</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1443">Eid</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1444">Hornindal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1445">Gloppen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1449">Stryn</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no15">Møre og Romsdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1502">Molde</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1504">Ålesund</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1505">Kristiansund</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1511">Vanylven</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1514">Sande</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1515">Herøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1516">Ulstein</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1517">Hareid</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1519">Volda</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1520">Ørsta</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1523">Ørskog</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1524">Norddal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1525">Stranda</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1526">Stordal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1528">Sykkylven</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1529">Skodje</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1531">Sula</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1532">Giske</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1534">Haram</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1535">Vestnes</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1539">Rauma</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1543">Nesset</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1545">Midsund</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1546">Sandøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1547">Aukra</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1548">Fræna</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1551">Eide</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1554">Averøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1557">Gjemnes</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1560">Tingvoll</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1563">Sunndal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1566">Surnadal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1567">Rindal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1571">Halsa</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1573">Smøla</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1576">Aure</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no16">Sør-Trøndelag</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1601">Trondheim</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1612">Hemne</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1613">Snillfjord</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1617">Hitra</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1620">Frøya</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1621">Ørland</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1622">Agdenes</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1624">Rissa</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1627">Bjugn</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1630">Åfjord</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1632">Roan</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1633">Osen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1634">Oppdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1635">Rennebu</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1636">Meldal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1638">Orkdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1640">Røros</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1644">Holtålen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1648">Midtre Gauldal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1653">Melhus</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1657">Skaun</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1662">Klæbu</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1663">Malvik</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1664">Selbu</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1665">Tydal</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no17">Nord-Trøndelag</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1702">Steinkjer</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1703">Namsos</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1711">Meråker</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1714">Stjørdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1717">Frosta</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1718">Leksvik</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1719">Levanger</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1721">Verdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1724">Verran</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1725">Namdalseid</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1736">Snåsa</subdivision><!--[no], Snåase [se]-->
<subdivision type="no1738">Lierne</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1739">Røyrvik</subdivision><!--[no], Raarvihke [se]-->
<subdivision type="no1740">Namsskogan</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1742">Grong</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1743">Høylandet</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1744">Overhalla</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1748">Fosnes</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1749">Flatanger</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1750">Vikna</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1751">Nærøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1755">Leka</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1756">Inderøy</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no18">Nordland</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1804">Bodø</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1805">Narvik</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1811">Bindal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1812">Sømna</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1813">Brønnøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1815">Vega</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1816">Vevelstad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1818">Herøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1820">Alstahaug</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1822">Leirfjord</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1824">Vefsn</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1825">Grane</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1826">Hattfjelldal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1827">Dønna</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1828">Nesna</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1832">Hemnes</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1833">Rana</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1834">Lurøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1835">Træna</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1836">Rødøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1837">Meløy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1838">Gildeskål</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1839">Beiarn</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1840">Saltdal</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1841">Fauske</subdivision><!--[no], Fuossko [se]-->
<subdivision type="no1845">Sørfold</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1848">Steigen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1849">Hamarøy</subdivision><!--[no], Hábmer [se]-->
<subdivision type="no1850">Tysfjord</subdivision><!--[no], Divtasvuodna [se]-->
<subdivision type="no1851">Lødingen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1852">Tjeldsund</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1853">Evenes</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1854">Ballangen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1856">Røst</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1857">Værøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1859">Flakstad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1860">Vestvågøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1865">Vågan</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1866">Hadsel</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1867">Bø</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1868">Øksnes</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1870">Sortland</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1871">Andøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1874">Moskenes</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no19">Troms</subdivision><!--[no], Romsa [se]-->
<subdivision type="no1903">Harstad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1902">Tromsø</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1911">Kvæfjord</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1913">Skånland</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1917">Ibestad</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1919">Gratangen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1920">Lavangen</subdivision><!--[no], Loabák [se]-->
<subdivision type="no1922">Bardu</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1923">Salangen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1924">Målselv</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1925">Sørreisa</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1926">Dyrøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1927">Tranøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1928">Torsken</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1929">Berg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1931">Lenvik</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1933">Balsfjord</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1936">Karlsøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1938">Lyngen</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1939">Storfjord</subdivision><!--[no], Omasvuotna [se], Omasvuono [fi]-->
<subdivision type="no1940">Kåfjord</subdivision><!--[no], Gáivuotna [se], Kaivuono [fi]-->
<subdivision type="no1941">Skjervøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1942">Nordreisa</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no1943">Kvænangen</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no20">Finnmark</subdivision><!--[no], Finnmárku [se]-->
<subdivision type="no2002">Vardø</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no2003">Vadsø</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no2004">Hammerfest</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no2011">Kautokeino</subdivision><!--[no, fi], Guovdageaidnu [se]-->
<subdivision type="no2012">Alta</subdivision><!--[no], Áltá [se], Alattio [fi]-->
<subdivision type="no2014">Loppa</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no2015">Hasvik</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no2017">Kvalsund</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no2018">Måsøy</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no2019">Nordkapp</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no2020">Porsanger</subdivision><!--[no], Porsáŋgu [se], Porsanki [fi]-->
<subdivision type="no2021">Karasjok</subdivision><!--[no], Kárášjohka [se]-->
<subdivision type="no2022">Lebesby</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no2023">Gamvik</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no2024">Berlevåg</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no2025">Tana</subdivision><!--[no], Deatnu [se]-->
<subdivision type="no2027">Nesseby</subdivision><!--[no], Unjárga [se]-->
<subdivision type="no2028">Båtsfjord</subdivision>
<subdivision type="no2030">Sør-Varanger</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no21">Svalbard</subdivision>

<subdivision type="no22">Jan Mayen</subdivision>

comment:6 follow-up: ↓ 7 Changed 5 months ago by doug@…

As I understand it, CLDR uses the official code elements from ISO 3166-2 regardless of whether they are deemed "old" or "not modern" or "less and less used."

comment:7 in reply to: ↑ 6 ; follow-up: ↓ 8 Changed 5 months ago by kent.karlsson14@…

Replying to doug@…:

As I understand it, CLDR uses the official code elements from ISO 3166-2 regardless of whether they are deemed "old" or "not modern" or "less and less used."

The numeric codes are included in https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:SE.

comment:8 in reply to: ↑ 7 ; follow-up: ↓ 9 Changed 5 months ago by doug@…

Replying to kent.karlsson14@…:

The numeric codes are included in https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:SE.

According to the standard, "The alphabetic code is traditionally well known to the general public, whereas the numeric code (placed after the name within square brackets) is used mainly within national administration; it may in the longer term supersede the alphabetic code."
CLDR has the flexibility to switch from the alphabetic to the numeric code elements when ISO does.

comment:9 in reply to: ↑ 8 ; follow-up: ↓ 10 Changed 5 months ago by kent.karlsson14@…

Replying to doug@…:

CLDR has the flexibility to switch from the alphabetic to the numeric code elements when ISO does.

And it would be better to change (in CLDR) now rather than later, a change now is less disruptive.

comment:10 in reply to: ↑ 9 Changed 5 months ago by doug@…

Replying to kent.karlsson14@…:

Replying to doug@…:

CLDR has the flexibility to switch from the alphabetic to the numeric code elements when ISO does.

And it would be better to change (in CLDR) now rather than later, a change now is less disruptive.

Deviating from ISO for just these two countries would not be a good idea IMHO. My last comment on this ticket.

comment:11 follow-up: ↓ 13 Changed 5 months ago by fredrik

The current list corresponds to the list of "län" (usually translated as counties) on Länsstyrelsen's (Sweden's board of counties) own website ​http://www.lansstyrelsen.se/Sv/Pages/default.aspx

comment:12 Changed 5 months ago by fredrik

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comment:13 in reply to: ↑ 11 Changed 5 months ago by kent.karlsson14@…

Replying to fredrik:

The current list corresponds to the list of "län" (usually translated as counties) on Länsstyrelsen's (Sweden's board of counties) own website ​http://www.lansstyrelsen.se/Sv/Pages/default.aspx

That is a list of links. I can understand that they want to keep the link "names" short. Note though that they give a context in the introductory paragraph saying "län". A "full" name for those links would be "Webbsidorna för länsstyrelsen i NNN län"; and that would be a bit too repetitive. However, I will send them an email, pointing out that "NNN" (in the short link name) should be replaced by "NNN(s) län" (or "länsstyrelsen i NNN län"), lest someone misreads the link names as the name of the län themselves...

Nit: Each "län" has two governing bodies, the länsstyrelse and the landsting. You found a list of links to the web pages for the former. You find a list of links to the web pages for the latter at https://skl.se/tjanster/kommunerlandsting/landstingochregionerlista.1247.html. There they have chosen to use a longer link name for each landsting/"region". ((I find that to be a misapplication of the word "region", but that is a different issue.)) And in https://skl.se/tjanster/kommunerlandsting/kommunerlista.1246.html they have gone as far as adding "kommun" (and in some cases "stad", though that should not bear any formal difference).

comment:14 follow-up: ↓ 15 Changed 4 months ago by mark

I'm a bit lost. Are there specific spelling/wording changes that need to be made to http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/browser/trunk/common/subdivisions/en.xml for the items listed under <!-- SE : Sweden -->?

The only relevant codes are the ones listed there, which correspond to the ISO subdivision codes. That is, the codes starting with "se" under <id type='subdivision' idStatus='regular'> in http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/browser/trunk/common/validity/subdivision.xml

seab~c sebd sec~i sek sem~o ses~u sew~z

If and when Sweden has ISO use different subdivision codes, we can make appropriate changes (include mappings to and from replacement codes where possible).

comment:15 in reply to: ↑ 14 Changed 4 months ago by kent.karlsson14@…

Replying to mark:

I'm a bit lost. Are there specific spelling/wording changes that need to be made to http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/browser/trunk/common/subdivisions/en.xml for the items listed under <!-- SE : Sweden -->?

Yes. Each and every one is in error. ISO does give the correct names for the top level subdivisions of Sweden.

The only relevant codes are the ones listed there, which correspond to the ISO subdivision codes.

ISO does give both the alphabetic AND the numeric codes. It is just that, presumably, the publication template does not give space for two codes for the same subdivision, so they put the numeric codes along with the name, though it should really have been in a separate column.

Unfortunately, the "second level" subdivisions of Sweden/Norway/Denmark/Finland (and others) are currently not given in the ISO lists, even though the "second level" subdivisions are given for several other countries.

comment:16 Changed 4 months ago by mark

What we would need is a list of exactly the translation changes, eg the changed translations (but not codes) for:

4329 <!-- SE : Sweden -->
4330 <subdivision type="seab">Stockholm</subdivision>
4331 <subdivision type="seac">Västerbotten</subdivision>
4332 <subdivision type="sebd">Norrbotten</subdivision>
4333 <subdivision type="sec">Uppsala</subdivision>
4334 <subdivision type="sed">Södermanland</subdivision>
4335 <subdivision type="see">Östergötland</subdivision>
4336 <subdivision type="sef">Jönköping</subdivision>
4337 <subdivision type="seg">Kronoberg</subdivision>
4338 <subdivision type="seh">Kalmar</subdivision>
4339 <subdivision type="sei">Gotland</subdivision>
4340 <subdivision type="sek">Blekinge</subdivision>
4341 <subdivision type="sem">Skåne</subdivision>
4342 <subdivision type="sen">Halland</subdivision>
4343 <subdivision type="seo">Västra Götaland</subdivision>
4344 <subdivision type="ses">Värmland</subdivision>
4345 <subdivision type="set">Örebro</subdivision>
4346 <subdivision type="seu">Västmanland</subdivision>
4347 <subdivision type="sew">Dalarna</subdivision>
4348 <subdivision type="sex">Gävleborg</subdivision>
4349 <subdivision type="sey">Västernorrland</subdivision>
4350 <subdivision type="sez">Jämtland</subdivision>

comment:17 follow-up: ↓ 18 Changed 4 months ago by kent.karlsson14@…

I tried to update this with a (longish) comment. But I get
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Akismet was wrong. Please fix.

comment:17 follow-up: ↓ 18 Changed 4 months ago by kent.karlsson14@…

I tried to update this with a (longish) comment. But I get
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Akismet was wrong. Please fix.

comment:18 in reply to: ↑ 17 Changed 4 months ago by srl

Replying to kent.karlsson14@…:

I tried to update this with a (longish) comment.

Something like this?

Sweden

Erroneous name in en.xml Alphabetic code Numeric code Correct name (as in ISO) Comment
Blekinge SE-K SE-10 Blekinge län
Dalarna SE-W SE-20 Dalarnas län Dalarna is much larger than Dalarnas län
Gävleborg SE-X SE-21 Gävleborgs län
Gotland SE-I SE-09 Gotlands län
Halland SE-N SE-13 Hallands län
Jämtland SE-Z SE-23 Jämtlands län
Jönköping SE-F SE-06 Jönköpings län Jönköping is a small part of Jönköpings län
Kalmar SE-H SE-08 Kalmar län (as above)
Kronoberg SE-G SE-07 Kronobergs län
Norrbotten SE-BD SE-25 Norrbottens län
Örebro SE-T SE-18 Örebro län (as above)
Östergötland SE-E SE-05 Östergötlands län
Skåne SE-M SE-12 Skåne län
Södermanland SE-D SE-04 Södermanlands län
Stockholm SE-AB SE-01 Stockholms län (as above)
Uppsala SE-C SE-03 Uppsala län (as above)
Värmland SE-S SE-17 Värmlands län Värmland does not coincide with Värmlands län
Västerbotten SE-AC SE-24 Västerbottens län
Västernorrland SE-Y SE-22 Västernorrlands län
Västmanland SE-U SE-19 Västmanlands län
Västra Götaland SE-O SE-14 Västra Götalands län

The "län" part cannot be left out since in many cases the names would then be misleading (not all, but many). I would advice to refrain from translating "län" at this point. ("County" is wrong and must not be used. I have explained why before in this forum, and for brevity will not repeat here.)

You do need to handle the numeric codes as well. Ignoring them is not an appropriate way of handling them.

Denmark

Erroneous name in en.xml and ISO Numeric code Correct name Comment
Hovedstaden DK-84 Region Hovedstaden Region København is clearer
Midtjylland DK-82 Region Midtjylland
Nordjylland DK-81 Region Nordjylland
Sjælland DK-85 Region Sjælland (see below)
Syddanmark DK-83 Region Syddanmark

The Region * names is what is actually used in practice, because otherwise the names would be misleading (so the names given in ISO are in error). E.g. Region Hovedstaden is much larger than Hovedstaden (i.e. Copenhangen), and Sjælland does not coincide with (geographic area of) Region Sjælland.

Norway

The names of the fylke seem ok. No need to say "fylke" in the names, as there is usually no confusion. However, a borderline case is Oslo, but Oslo fylke only consists of Oslo (municipality) and no additional municipality (for now at least). To be really clear, however, using Oslo fylke as the name for that fylke would be more correct, as there is a formal difference.

Don't forget that NO-21 and NO-22 are actually (also) in SJ (Svalbard and Jan Mayen).

Finland

Don't forget that FI-01 is actually (also) in AX (Åland).

"Submission rejected as potential spam (Akismet says content is spam)"...

Akismet was wrong. Please fix.

Reported back to akismet as a false positive.

comment:19 Changed 4 months ago by kent.karlsson14@…

Yes.

THANKS!

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