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CLDR Ticket #10159(reviewing docs)

Opened 5 months ago

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Translation guide for "week of pattern"

Reported by: kristi Owned by: pedberg
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Phase: dsub Review: kristi
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Description

Move the week of pattern information from the spec to Translation guide to help guide the linguists.

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comment:1 Changed 5 months ago by emmons

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comment:2 Changed 5 months ago by pedberg

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comment:3 Changed 4 months ago by pedberg

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comment:4 Changed 4 months ago by pedberg

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comment:5 follow-up: ↓ 6 Changed 4 months ago by kristi

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This is good. A few clarification questions and suggestion here:

  1. original: w designates the number of the week within the year, using the special year value Y for this purpose

    Suggestion: w designates the number of the week within the year, using the special year value Y for this purpose differentiating from ‘y’ in other date patterns
  1. original: "Y may be aligned on week boundaries".
    Question: I don't understand this.
  1. original: localizers will typically use a work-around construction.

    Question/suggestion: Could you add an example what a work-around could be? Which language would do a workaround?
  1. original: These should be designed for consistency with the relative week period pattern described here, which is used for constructions such as “the week of April 11, 2016”; in English this pattern is “the week of {0}”.

    Suggestion: When using work-arounds, “the week of {0}” pattern available in Relative week (Survey Tool under Date & Time\Fields) should be consistent. Also see [Relative Day-of-Week] (https://sites.google.com/site/cldr/translation/date-time-names#TOC-Relative-Day-of-the-Week-Names). Relative week is used for constructions such as “the week of April 11, 2016”; in English this pattern is “the week of {0}”.
  1. Also, could you fix the "here" link on https://sites.google.com/site/cldr/translation/date-time-names#TOC-Week-of? The link doesn't take you anywhere.

    Suggestion:I believe it should go to the new section: https://sites.google.com/site/cldr/translation/date-time-patterns?pli=1#TOC-Week-Of-Patterns

comment:6 in reply to: ↑ 5 Changed 4 months ago by pedberg

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Replying to kristi:
Thanks Kristi! Followup below....

  1. original: w designates the number of the week within the year, using the special year value Y for this purpose
    Suggestion: w designates the number of the week within the year, using the special year value Y for this purpose differentiating from ‘y’ in other date patterns
  2. original: "Y may be aligned on week boundaries".
    Question: I don't understand this.

I rewrote the relevant table entry to address these, hope it is more clear.

  1. original: localizers will typically use a work-around construction.
    Question/suggestion: Could you add an example what a work-around could be? Which language would do a workaround?

That wording comes directly from the LDML spec section that Mark wrote (at the end of http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr35/tr35-dates.html#Week_Data). I don't have any examples of such workarounds, but he may from the data that Google originally collected for these patterns. This bug was actually just about moving the spec info into the translation guidelines, so in this case I don't have enough info to go beyond that. I can check with him separately.

  1. original: These should be designed for consistency with the relative week period pattern described here, which is used for constructions such as “the week of April 11, 2016”; in English this pattern is “the week of {0}”.

    Suggestion: When using work-arounds, “the week of {0}” pattern available in Relative week (Survey Tool under Date & Time\Fields) should be consistent. Also see [Relative Day-of-Week] (https://sites.google.com/site/cldr/translation/date-time-names#TOC-Relative-Day-of-the-Week-Names). Relative week is used for constructions such as “the week of April 11, 2016”; in English this pattern is “the week of {0}”.

Actually the consistency discussion is not just about workarounds. I rewrote this section to try and better describe the motivation. I also attached the part on workarounds to the paragraph that precedes it, because that is what it logically goes with.

  1. Also, could you fix the "here" link on https://sites.google.com/site/cldr/translation/date-time-names#TOC-Week-of? The link doesn't take you anywhere.
    Suggestion:I believe it should go to the new section: https://sites.google.com/site/cldr/translation/date-time-patterns?pli=1#TOC-Week-Of-Patterns

Yes, fixed, thanks.

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