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CLDR Ticket #11111(closed data: fixed)

Opened 5 months ago

Last modified 8 days ago

Translation of time zone name "Mountain Time" in pt-PT

Reported by: vichang@… Owned by: mark
Component: timezone Data Locale: pt-PT
Phase: dsub Review: meikeh
Weeks: Data Xpath: //ldml/dates/timeZoneNames/zone[@type="America_Mountain"]/generic
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Description

According to our linguist, "Hora de Montanha" is wrong pt-PT. The time zone should either have no generic name or use "Hora da Montanha"

I think the Xpath is ldml/dates/timeZoneNames/zone[@type="America_Mountain"]/generic

<metazone type="America_Mountain">
    <long>
        <generic>Hora de Montanha</generic>

GoogleIssue: 77972075

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comment:1 Changed 5 months ago by 002-ptpt_0008@…

Indeed. Please note that "Hora de Montanha" is very generic and doesn't mean much to your average PT speaker. "Hora da Montanha" is grammatically more accurate, but still a bit difficult to understand. The best possible translation would be "Fuso horário MST" (lit. "MST timezone"). Thanks

comment:2 Changed 5 months ago by vichang@…

Does MST in "MST timezone" mean "Mountain Standard Time"?
I think "Mountain Standard Time" and "Mountain Time" have different meanings in my understanding in English.

Do you think "Hora da Montanha" is still better than "Hora de Montanha"? Looks like the opinion from our native speakers think "Hora da Montanha" is acceptable.

comment:3 Changed 4 months ago by mark

  • Keywords google added

comment:4 Changed 4 months ago by doug@…

There is no significant difference in U.S. English between "Mountain Standard Time" and "Mountain Time," except that the former specifies "Standard" time (as opposed to "Daylight" time) and the latter does not. They are the same zone (which I live in).

comment:5 Changed 4 months ago by mark

  • Owner changed from anybody to SurveyTool
  • Status changed from new to accepted
  • Review set to mellie
  • Milestone changed from UNSCH to 34

comment:6 Changed 7 weeks ago by mellie

According to our Google linguist, it seems that "Hora da Montanha" is still better than "Hora de Montanha"? "grammatically speaking but both "de Montanha" and "da Montanha" are not the best solutions in terms of readability.
Ideally, this would always read "Fuso horário MST" because "MST" works internationally and would render the string/sentence clear to anyone reading it.

comment:7 Changed 7 weeks ago by mark

  • Owner changed from SurveyTool to mark

comment:8 Changed 7 weeks ago by mark

  • Status changed from accepted to reviewing

comment:9 Changed 9 days ago by meikeh

Mark, is more input on this one needed from me?

comment:10 Changed 8 days ago by meikeh

  • Status changed from reviewing to closed
  • Resolution set to fixed
  • Review changed from mellie to meikeh
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