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CLDR Ticket #11480(new)

Opened 3 months ago

Last modified 5 weeks ago

Likely script for Tai Dam [blt] and Tai Dón [twh]

Reported by: sascha Owned by: rick
Component: locale-demographics Data Locale: blt, twh
Phase: dsub Review:
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Jim Brase from SIL (cc’ed on this ticket) sent me the following by e-mail:

I noticed that Tai Viet is listed [in CLDR] as the target script for Tai Dam, while Latin is listed as the target script for Tai Dón. I would have thought that the two would be the same.

  • In Vietnam:
    • Both languages use both the Tai Viet and Latin scripts.
    • Based on a conference I attended in Vietnam in 2006, there is a strong identification with and interest in the Tai Viet script in both language groups.
    • In actual practice, I believe that among the Tai Dam, the Latin script is three or four times more likely to be used. (This is based on a conversation I had with someone else six months ago about literature distribution statistics, admittedly a rather weak source.) I have no information on actual Tai Dón usage, but again, based on the conference I attended in 2006 I would expect it to be similar to Tai Dam.
    • Ten years ago, there was an interest among both language groups to use the Tai Viet script in schools. However, I have been told that the Latin script is still the primary script of instruction.
  • In Laos:
    • The Tai Dam use both the Tai Viet and Lao scripts. I have no information on script usage among the Tai Dón in Laos.
    • I have been told that the government requires the use of the Lao script, but have no first hand information on the matter.

So the bottom line is, while there is a preference for the Tai Viet script, in actual practice the national script is more likely to be used. Which does one go by to determine the likely subtag, preference or practice? Should one of these be changed?

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comment:1 Changed 2 months ago by mark

  • Milestone changed from UNSCH to to-assess

comment:2 Changed 5 weeks ago by mark

  • Component changed from other-supplemental to locale-demographics

The likely subtag should be determined by usage, not preference.

comment:3 Changed 5 weeks ago by mark

  • Owner changed from anybody to rick

Setting person for initial assessment according to https://unicode.org/cldr/trac/admin/ticket/components

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