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CLDR Ticket #6566(accepted data)

Opened 4 years ago

Last modified 18 months ago

Verify Arabic plural units for "two" cases

Reported by: jchye Owned by: shervin
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Description

Most of the "two" plural forms for units in Arabic have parentheses around the placeholder, e.g. "دقيقتان ({0})". According to Roozbeh, this is because the translated word already contains the number 2. We should verify these cases with translators and at the same check if 2 would be treated the same way as 2.00.

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comment:1 Changed 4 years ago by emmons

  • Owner changed from anybody to roozbeh
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comment:2 Changed 4 years ago by emmons

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comment:3 Changed 3 years ago by emmons

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Moving all 25dsub to 25M1. Please adjust the milestone if you are not planning to complete the item in the 25M1 time frame.

comment:4 Changed 3 years ago by emmons

  • Milestone changed from 25M1 to 25rc

Moving Roozbeh's 25M1 to 25rc

comment:5 Changed 3 years ago by kent.karlsson14@…

This is akin to saying that for English, plural category one, one should use "minute" instead of "{0} minute", 'since the "1" is built in to the grammatical form'. I find that irrelevant, the number (or in the patterns, the number placeholder) should always be there, even if only one particular number can be used with a particular grammatical inflection. You don't go around 'saying'/writing "0 minutes", "minute", 2 minutes", ..., that would be too inconsistent; I would think that goes for all languages.

Furthermore, there is a class "zero", which when used only for the value "0", with patterns that are equivalent to saying "no ..." (like "no minutes", "no days", ...) are also in error. The number should always be there: "0 minutes", "0 days", ...

The use case here is to count something or give a measurement value (whether it be minutes, metres, litres, ...), it is not informal running text (where expressions like "no minutes" would be fine). Thus omitting the number placeholder should be an error for all unit patterns.

comment:6 Changed 3 years ago by emmons

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comment:7 Changed 3 years ago by mark

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comment:8 Changed 3 years ago by markus

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comment:9 Changed 2 years ago by roozbeh

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comment:10 Changed 2 years ago by roozbeh

  • Owner changed from roozbeh to shervin

comment:11 Changed 2 years ago by markus

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comment:12 Changed 2 years ago by srl

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comment:13 Changed 2 years ago by shervin

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comment:14 Changed 18 months ago by emmons

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