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CLDR Ticket #7618(closed data: fixed)

Opened 3 years ago

Last modified 7 months ago

Currency symbols

Reported by: mark Owned by: emmons
Component: main Data Locale:
Phase: rc Review: mark
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Description

There's an project at Google that is overriding the following currency signs, based on feedback that the symbols in CLDR were not the most customary, and often not understood by the average person in the country in question. An example is the Thai Baht.

We should review these and see if any need changing in CLDR.

THB = "บาท"
GHS = "GH₵"
KES = "Ksh"
NGN = "₦"
SHP = "£"
UGX = "USh"

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comment:1 Changed 3 years ago by mark

  • Owner changed from anybody to emmons
  • Status changed from new to assigned
  • Component changed from unknown to data
  • Milestone changed from UNSCH to 26rc

Canvas organizations as to whether to change.

comment:2 Changed 3 years ago by emmons

THB = "บาท"

"บาท" is the word for "baht" in Thai. There are plenty of places on the web where it says that ฿ is the proper symbol, but to be honest I'm having a hard time finding anyplace where it is actually used that way. Most newspapers I found just use "THB". If we truly convinced that the baht symbol has gone out of vogue, I would think that we would want to remove the current entry in root, let most languages default to "THB". Since the currency format for Thai is "¤#,##0.00", I wouldn't think you would want to change the symbol to "บาท" without also changing the format, since "บาท123.45" probably isn't going to fly. My recommendation: Either do nothing, or take the symbol out of root.xml only.

GHS = "GH₵"

Currency symbol is already GH₵ for GHS in all locales related to Ghana. (ak, ee, en_GH, ha_Latn_GH). It's not in root that way because "GH₵" probably isn't understood outside Ghana. However, there is one problem in root:

    <currency type="GHS">
         <symbol alt="narrow">₵</symbol>
    </currency>

This is incorrect because just ₵ is the symbol for the OLD currency retired in 2007.

My recommendation: remove the GHS entry from root.

KES = "Ksh"

Similar situation to GHS above. Symbol is already "Ksh" for locales related to Kenya, but not in root because it wouldn't be recognized elsewhere. My recommendation: no action.

NGN = "₦"

Similar situation to GHS above. Symbol is already "₦" for locales related to Nigeria, but not in root because it wouldn't be recognized elsewhere. My recommendation: no action.

SHP = "£"

It is already this way in en_SH.xml, the only locale directly related to St. Helena. Most other places in the world, "£" refers to the British pound. My recommendation: Just add an alt=narrow entry in root, otherwise, things look OK here.

UGX = "USh"

Similar situation to GHS above. Symbol is already "USh" for locales related to Uganda, but not in root because it wouldn't be recognized elsewhere. My recommendation: no action.

comment:3 Changed 3 years ago by kent.karlsson14@…

Regarding THB: Thai Airways uses the baht *symbol*, both in English as well as Thai.

comment:4 Changed 3 years ago by fredrik

Feedback from our Thai vetter:

Actually, the symbol ฿ isn't commonly used in Thailand, but can be understandable, especially when it comes to the limited length. Regarding THB, I think "THB" is a better choice than "บาท" (Baht). I also agree with this statement, "the currency format for Thai is "¤#,##0.00", I wouldn't think you would want to change the symbol to "บาท" without also changing the format, since "บาท123.45" probably isn't going to fly. " because Thai uses this format '123.45 บาท'.

comment:5 Changed 3 years ago by emmons

Feedback from my contact in Thailand:

Baht symbol is still in use. But it's not widely use because Thai people
usually not familiar with symbol as prefix in front of number.
If there is no other currency symbol in front of number, they trend to
assume it is baht. So it often omitted.

I wonder who claim there is no use for that symbol.
And per that suggestion to use "บาท", my answer is yes. It'll be postfix
instead of prefix and it require space to separate number from word.

Here's an example captured from Bank of Thailand web site,
http://www.bot.or.th/Thai/EconomicConditions/Thai/genecon/Pages/index.aspx

comment:6 Changed 3 years ago by emmons

  • Priority changed from assess to major

comment:7 Changed 3 years ago by emmons

  • Status changed from assigned to reviewing
  • Review set to mark

comment:8 Changed 3 years ago by mark

  • Status changed from reviewing to closed
  • Resolution set to fixed

comment:9 Changed 3 years ago by markus

  • Phase set to rc
  • Milestone changed from 26rc to 26

comment:10 Changed 7 months ago by markus

  • Cc markus added
  • Type changed from unknown to data
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