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CLDR Ticket #9785(closed data: fixed)

Opened 10 months ago

Last modified 28 hours ago

Consider having es_419 override <field type="day"><relative type="-2">

Reported by: pedberg Owned by: kristi
Component: datetime Data Locale: es_419
Phase: dsub Review: fredrik
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Description (last modified by pedberg) (diff)

Currently es has the following for relative days

<relative type="-2">anteayer</relative>
<relative type="-1">ayer</relative>
<relative type="0">hoy</relative>
<relative type="1">mañana</relative>
<relative type="2">pasado mañana</relative>

es_419 does not override any of these; however many es_ region locales for Latin America (CR,GT,HN,MX,NI,PA,PY,SV) override <relative type="-2"> as follows:

<relative type="-2">antier</relative>

We should consider moving that override from the individual locales to es_419. If there are any Latin America Spanish locales for which that is not appropriate, will need to then override in those locales.

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comment:1 Changed 10 months ago by kent.karlsson14@…

http://colofon-conspicuo08.blogspot.se/2009/07/antier-anteayer-y-antes-de-ayer.html:
No es incorrecto decir “antier”, pero su aplicación es meramente coloquial. Evítese en escritos y diálogos de carácter formal.

https://definiciona.com/antier/:
Es un termino coloquial que hace referencia como sincopiado de anteayer [...]

https://es.wiktionary.org/wiki/antier
Uso: coloquial
Sinónimos: antes de ayer, anteayer

Hmm, colloquial terms/spellings might not be suitable for CLDR...

comment:2 Changed 10 months ago by pedberg

  • Description modified (diff)

comment:3 Changed 10 months ago by fredrik

  • Owner changed from anybody to fredrik
  • Priority changed from assess to medium
  • Status changed from new to accepted
  • Milestone changed from UNSCH to 31

Taking this to take a first look.

comment:4 Changed 10 months ago by fredrik

  • Owner changed from fredrik to kristi

Our linguist for es_419 and es_MX agrees that it makes sense to change es_419 to use "antier" since more of the sub-locales seems to be using that, and let sub-locales make exceptions to "anteayer" as they see fit. (es_MX would be one of the locales making the exception.)

Sending to Kristi for her input.

comment:5 Changed 6 months ago by kristi

Our linguist for es_419 would prefer "anteayer" for es_419.

And agree with Fredrik's comment for es_MX: The term "antier" closer to the Latin form anti heri, is used in "colloquial" Spanish in Mexico and some other Ccentral america countries. We should look at es_MX in v32.

Would be best to decide in the Survey tool.

comment:6 Changed 6 months ago by kent.karlsson14@…

Latin "ante heri"; NOT "anti heri".

"antier" should probably be analysed as "ant-ier" (compare "ante-ayer"), NOT "anti-er".

comment:7 Changed 6 months ago by kristi

  • Milestone changed from 31 to 32

comment:8 Changed 28 hours ago by kristi

  • Status changed from accepted to closed
  • Resolution set to fixed
  • Review set to fredrik

I made a TC vote to es_MX (See Forum post): http://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/es_MX/Fields/1d45310cbcf1b2e5

in es, everyone voted for anteayer in es again: http://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/es/Fields/1d45310cbcf1b2e5

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