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CLDR Ticket #9785(closed data: fixed)

Opened 13 months ago

Last modified 3 months ago

Consider having es_419 override <field type="day"><relative type="-2">

Reported by: pedberg Owned by: kristi
Component: datetime Data Locale: es_419
Phase: dsub Review: fredrik
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Description (last modified by pedberg) (diff)

Currently es has the following for relative days

<relative type="-2">anteayer</relative>
<relative type="-1">ayer</relative>
<relative type="0">hoy</relative>
<relative type="1">mañana</relative>
<relative type="2">pasado mañana</relative>

es_419 does not override any of these; however many es_ region locales for Latin America (CR,GT,HN,MX,NI,PA,PY,SV) override <relative type="-2"> as follows:

<relative type="-2">antier</relative>

We should consider moving that override from the individual locales to es_419. If there are any Latin America Spanish locales for which that is not appropriate, will need to then override in those locales.

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comment:1 Changed 13 months ago by kent.karlsson14@…

http://colofon-conspicuo08.blogspot.se/2009/07/antier-anteayer-y-antes-de-ayer.html:
No es incorrecto decir “antier”, pero su aplicación es meramente coloquial. Evítese en escritos y diálogos de carácter formal.

https://definiciona.com/antier/:
Es un termino coloquial que hace referencia como sincopiado de anteayer [...]

https://es.wiktionary.org/wiki/antier
Uso: coloquial
Sinónimos: antes de ayer, anteayer

Hmm, colloquial terms/spellings might not be suitable for CLDR...

comment:2 Changed 13 months ago by pedberg

  • Description modified (diff)

comment:3 Changed 13 months ago by fredrik

  • Owner changed from anybody to fredrik
  • Priority changed from assess to medium
  • Status changed from new to accepted
  • Milestone changed from UNSCH to 31

Taking this to take a first look.

comment:4 Changed 13 months ago by fredrik

  • Owner changed from fredrik to kristi

Our linguist for es_419 and es_MX agrees that it makes sense to change es_419 to use "antier" since more of the sub-locales seems to be using that, and let sub-locales make exceptions to "anteayer" as they see fit. (es_MX would be one of the locales making the exception.)

Sending to Kristi for her input.

comment:5 Changed 9 months ago by kristi

Our linguist for es_419 would prefer "anteayer" for es_419.

And agree with Fredrik's comment for es_MX: The term "antier" closer to the Latin form anti heri, is used in "colloquial" Spanish in Mexico and some other Ccentral america countries. We should look at es_MX in v32.

Would be best to decide in the Survey tool.

comment:6 Changed 9 months ago by kent.karlsson14@…

Latin "ante heri"; NOT "anti heri".

"antier" should probably be analysed as "ant-ier" (compare "ante-ayer"), NOT "anti-er".

comment:7 Changed 9 months ago by kristi

  • Milestone changed from 31 to 32

comment:8 Changed 3 months ago by kristi

  • Status changed from accepted to closed
  • Resolution set to fixed
  • Review set to fredrik

I made a TC vote to es_MX (See Forum post): http://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/es_MX/Fields/1d45310cbcf1b2e5

in es, everyone voted for anteayer in es again: http://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/es/Fields/1d45310cbcf1b2e5

comment:9 Changed 3 months ago by kristi

In Es_MX, added "anteayer". Requested in the forum for vetters to change votes to confirm. No inheritance is option is available.

Latin America (CR,GT,HN,MX,NI,PA,PY,SV) should also be changed to "anteayer", but inheritance option is not available: http://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/es_GT/Fields/1d45310cbcf1b2e5

comment:10 Changed 3 months ago by kristi

Do hard TC votes on Latin America sub locales (CR,GT,HN,MX,NI,PA,PY,SV) with "anteayer"

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