L2/10-015R

Preliminary Minutes of the UTC 122 / L2 219 Joint Meeting
Mountain View, CA -- February 1-5, 2010
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UTC #122 Agenda
Revision date: April 30, 2010

Monday, February 1, 2010

Administrative — Roll Call (A.1)

PRESENT: Adobe, Apple (proxy), Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sybase, UC Berkeley, Yahoo!
7 full members and 1 institutional members present, 8 total votes

NOT PRESENT: Denic e.G., India MIT, Monotype Imaging Corporation, Oracle Corporation, SAP AG, Tamil Nadu, W. Bengal SNLTR, UCSC.
3 full members, 4 institutional members, and 1 supporting member not present, 7.5 total votes

Voting members: 10 full, 5 institutional, 1 supporting
Voting members in regular attendance: 7 full, 4 institutional, 0 supporting
Quorum: 6

[118-C1] Consensus: Approve the minutes of joint meeting UTC 117/L2 214. [L2/08-361R]

Administrative  —  Calendar review (A.6)

  UTC 126/L2 223 - February 7-11, 2011, Sunnyvale, host Yahoo!

Public Review Issue — Unicode Character Database (B.10.2)

[122-A1] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: In Unicode Standard Annex #44: Unicode Character Database, split section 5.1 and move table 8 towards the top of section 5. L2/10-019, L2/10-033

[122-A2] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Extend PRI #151 to May 3, 2010.

Public Review Issue — Unicode Normalization Forms (B.10.3)

[122-A3] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Extend PRI #152 to May 3, 2010. L2/10-019, L2/10-032

[122-A4] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Proceed with restructuring of Unicode Standard Annex #15: Unicode Normalization Forms based on document L2/10-043 and feedback received in the meeting. Post before the next UTC meeting.

Public Review Issue — Unicode Character Database (B.10.4)

[122-C1] Consensus: Deprecate, but do not stabilize, 5 properties (FC_NFKC_Closure, Expands_On_NFC, Expands_On_NFD, Expands_On_NFKC, and Expands_On_NFKD) as per PRI #153 and L2/09-296 for Unicode 6.0. This consensus modifies and supercedes consensus 121-C23.

[122-A5] Action Item for Mark Davis: Add info to DerivedNormalizationProps.txt about the 5 deprecated properties (FC_NFKC_Closure, Expands_On_NFC, Expands_On_NFD, Expands_On_NFKC, and Expands_On_NFKD) in Consensus 122-C1 above for Unicode 6.0. L2/10-019

[122-A6] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add 5 deprecated properties (FC_NFKC_Closure, Expands_On_NFC, Expands_On_NFD, Expands_On_NFKC, and Expands_On_NFKD) to the list of deprecated properties in Unicode Standard Annex #44: Unicode Character Database for Unicode 6.0. L2/10-019

[122-A7] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close PRI #153. The 5 properties (FC_NFKC_Closure, Expands_On_NFC, Expands_On_NFD, Expands_On_NFKC, and Expands_On_NFKD) will be deprecated in Unicode 6.0. L2/10-019

Public Review Issue — Unicode Collation Algorithm (B.11.1.2)

[122-A8] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Incorporate changes based on L2/10-044 as modified in discussion, into the proposed update of Unicode Technical Standard #10: Unicode Collation Algorithm.

Editorial Committee (B.12 )

[122-A9] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader, Editorial Committee: Provide appropriate text for section 8.2 about Hamza on Heh Goal shaping class.

Public Review Issue — Unicode Security Considerations (B.10.5)

[122-A10] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to Karl Williamson on feedback in public review document L2/10-019, L2/10-022

[122-A11] Action Item for John Jenkins: Fix Unicode Standard Annex #38: Unicode Han Database based on feedback in "Other Reports" from Eugene Motoyama. L2/10-019, L2/10-022

[122-A12] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Leroy Vargas re his feedback on L2/10-019. (We know about KP charts and we are working on the issue, fonts, etc.) L2/10-022

[122-A13] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Forward Khmer comments from Shriramana Sharma to Javier Sola and request his input. Bring back to editorial committee. L2/10-022

[122-A14] Action Item for Markus Scherer, Editorial Committee: Follow up on feedback from Robert Muir in L2/10-019 re shift/rotate, in TUS section 5.17. L2/10-022

Tuesday, February 2, 2010

PRESENT: Adobe, Apple (proxy), Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sybase, UC Berkeley, Yahoo!
7 full members and 1 institutional members present, 8 total votes

NOT PRESENT: Denic e.G., India MIT, Monotype Imaging Corporation, Oracle Corporation, SAP AG, Tamil Nadu, W. Bengal SNLTR, UCSC.
3 full members, 4 institutional members, and 1 supporting member not present, 7.5 total votes

Public Review Issue — Unicode IDNA Compatible Processing (B.10.1)

[122-A15] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to the two people who gave general feedback about PRI #150, Unicode Technical Standard #46: Unicode IDNA Compatibility Processing, in L2/10-019. ((To Andrew: will incorporate something into Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations. To Marwa: Tatweel is accommodated in Unicode Technical Standard #39: Unicode Security Mechanisms; thanks for editorial comments, ed group will be looking over those.)) L2/09-363, L2/09-413, L2/10-021, L2/10-024

Scripts — Slavonic (WG2 N3748) (C.12)

[122-C2] Consensus: Accept nine Cyrillic combining letters at A674-A67B and A69F, with properties as given in L2/10-002 for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[122-A16] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include nine Cyrillic combining letters at A674-A67B and A69F, as given in L2/10-002 for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[122-A17] Action Item for Michael Everson: Provide a font to Michel Suignard for nine Cyrillic combining letters at A674-A67B and A69F, as given in L2/10-002.

[122-A18] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add nine Cyrillic combining letters at A674-A67B and A69F, as given in L2/10-002, to WG2 document proposing new additions to 10646.

Scripts — Encoding six punctuation characters (WG2 N3740) (C.22)

[122-C3] Consensus: Accept 6 punctuation characters U+2E32, U+2E35 - U+2E39 with properties and names as given in L2/09-425.

[122-A19] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include 6 punctuation characters U+2E32, U+2E35 - U+2E39 with names as given in L2/09-425.

[122-A20] Action Item for Michael Everson: Provide a font to Michel Suignard for 6 punctuation characters U+2E32, U+2E35 - U+2E39. L2/09-425.

[122-A21] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add 6 punctuation characters U+2E32, U+2E35 - U+2E39, with names as given in L2/09-425, to WG2 document proposing new additions to 10646.

[122-A22] Action Item for Mark Davis: Add U+2E32, U+2E35, U+2E39 to list of confusables. Add to XID_Modifications as historic. L2/09-425. This is for after Unicode 6.0.

Scripts — Hungarian Runic (WG2 N3664) (C.28)

[122-M1] Motion: Accept U+2E33 REVERSE COMMA and U+2E34 DOUBLE LOW REVERSED NINE QUOTATION MARK with properties as given in L2/09-240, for encoding in a future version of the standard. L2/09-292

For 3 (IBM, MS, Adobe)
Against 1 (Sybase)
Abstain 4 (Apple, Yahoo, Google, UCB)

Motion fails.

Wednesday, February 3, 2010

PRESENT: Adobe, Apple (proxy), Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sybase, UC Berkeley, Yahoo!
7 full members and 1 institutional members present, 8 total votes

NOT PRESENT: Denic e.G., India MIT, Monotype Imaging Corporation, Oracle Corporation, SAP AG, Tamil Nadu, W. Bengal SNLTR, UCSC.
3 full members, 4 institutional members, and 1 supporting member not present, 7.5 total votes

Properties — Arabic Shaping UCD file (B.13.1.1)

[122-A23] Action Item for Roozebeh Pournader, Editorial Committee: Review document L2/10-045 and make suggestions for editorial changes to the schematic names in ArabicShaping.txt.

[122-C4] Consensus: Change the joining group for U+06C3 to a new value "Teh Marbuta Goal" in ArabicShaping.txt for Unicode 6.0. L2/10-045

[122-A24] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update ArabicShaping.txt with new property for U+06C3 and address the comment in the header about Hamza on Heh Goal. L2/10-045 and 122-C4.

[122-A25] Action Item for Mark Davis: Add the new alias "Teh Marbuta Goal" to PropertyValueAliases.txt for Unicode 6.0. L2/10-045 and 122-C4.

[122-A26] Action Item for Eric Muller, Editorial Committee: Update Unicode Standard Annex #42: Unicode Character Database in XML with the new attribute value "Teh Marbuta Goal" for Unicode 6.0. L2/10-045 and 122-C4.

[122-A27] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post a PRI for proposed update Unicode Standard Annex #42: Unicode Character Database in XML to close May 3, 2010.

[122-A28] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update the documentation of the joining groups in section 8.2 Arabic, for Unicode 6.0. L2/10-045 and 122-C4.

Symbols Subcommittee — Arabic math alphabetic symbols (D.4)

[122-C5] Consensus: Allocate in the SMP a row and a half for Arabic math symbols starting at U+1E800 and adjust allocations for Persian, Siyac Numerals into that general area. L2/10-055

[122-A29] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Michael Everson: Make the changes in the roadmap for the SMP for Arabic Math Symbols. L2/10-055

South Asian Subcommittee — Grantha (E.1.1)

[122-C6] Consensus: The UTC supports the recommendations in section "V" of document L2/10-053 and encourages the participants in the Granta discussion to continue developing a Grantha encoding proposal on the basis of these recommendations.

[122-A30] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Deborah Anderson: Produce a code chart and nameslist that reflects the 75 characters recommended by recommendations 1-5 of section "V" in document L2/10-053.

[122-A31] Action Item for Eric Muller: Initiate discussion on the Indic list of those focussed suggestions re Grantha that require further investigation. L2/10-053.

Properties — Brahmi-based scripts (B.13.5)

[122-C7] Consensus: Issue a PRI regarding the addition of two provisional properties, Indic_Syllabic_Category and Matra_Placement, as documented in L2/10-057, to close May 3, 2010. L2/10-056, L2/10-057

[122-A32] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Prepare the background doc for the PRI regarding the addition of two provisional properties, Indic_Syllabic_Category and Matra_Placement, as documented in L2/10-057.

[122-A33] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post the PRI on two provisional properties, Indic_Syllabic_Category and Matra_Placement, as documented in L2/10-057, to close May 3, 2010. L2/10-056, L2/10-057

[122-A34] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Prepare a table documenting Dandas in the text of the standard for version 6.0. L2/10-056, L2/10-057

[122-A35] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Remind John Jenkins and Richard Cook that if they want any additional provisional properties (any new tags) in Unihan.txt, they must propose to the UTC first. ((I.e., we decided at last meeting on a PRI process for new properties.)) CC ed committee. May meeting would be the last time for 6.0, schedule-wise. L2/10-056, L2/10-057

Properties — HTML improvements for bidi (B.13.1.2)

[122-C8] Consensus: Authorize proposed updates for the remaining UAXes for version 6.0. L2/09-411.

[122-A36] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Open PRIs and updates for all the UAXes for 6.0 (which are not already open). (Include appropriate boilerplate fixes, etc, as usual. Ken will help for his UAXes.) L2/09-411.

[122-A37] Action Item for Mark Davis, Roozbeh Pournader, Editorial Committee: Add informative text to Unicode Standard Annex # 9: Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm on alternative ways of detecting paragraph detection. L2/10-065 and L2/09-411.

[122-A38] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Review section TUS 5.8 Newline Guidelines when Unicode Technical Report #20: Unicode in XML and other Markup Languages is updated.

[122-A39] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Craig Cummings: Send a notification to Unicore to the effect that "There is an ongoing effort in the W3C to provide better support for bidi languages in HTML. We would encourage people who are interested in bidi languages to engage in this activity. [Get URL / Info from Craig; and document, run by the edcom before sending.]

Symbols Subcommittee — Emoticon Neutral Face (D.1.3)

[122-C9] Consensus: Accept U+1F62A Neutral Face for encoding in Unicode version 6.0. L2/10-036

[122-A40] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+1F62A Neutral Face for encoding in Unicode version 6.0. L2/10-036.

[122-A41] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+1F62A Neutral Face to ballot comments on Amendment 8 of 10646. L2/10-036.

Symbols Subcommittee — Emoji (D.1.4)

[122-A42] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Make ballot comments on Amd 8 based on document L2/10-061R.

Scripts — Two dashes (C.24)

[122-C10] Consensus: Accept U+2E3A TWO-EM DASH and U+2E3B THREE-EM DASH for encoding in a future version of the standard. L2/10-037

[122-A43] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to reflect acceptance of U+2E3A TWO-EM DASH and U+2E3B THREE-EM DASH. L2/10-037.

[122-A44] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+2E3A TWO-EM DASH and U+2E3B THREE-EM DASH to WG2 document proposing new additions to 10646. L2/10-037

[122-A45] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to Karl Pentzlin re L2/10-036 and L2/10-037 acceptance.

Symbols Subcommittee — Renaming the diagonal symbols U+27CB and U+27CD (D.3)

[122-C11] Consensus: Change the name of U+27CB from RISING DIAGONAL to MATHEMATICAL RISING DIAGONAL and U+27CD from FALLING DIAGONAL to MATHEMATICAL FALLING DIAGONAL. L2/10-010

[122-A46] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to reflect changing the name of U+27CB from RISING DIAGONAL to MATHEMATICAL RISING DIAGONAL and U+27CD from FALLING DIAGONAL to MATHEMATICAL FALLING DIAGONAL. L2/10-010

Thursday, February 4, 2010

PRESENT: Adobe, Apple (proxy), Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sybase, UC Berkeley, Yahoo!
7 full members and 1 institutional members present, 8 total votes

NOT PRESENT: Denic e.G., India MIT, Monotype Imaging Corporation, Oracle Corporation, SAP AG, Tamil Nadu, W. Bengal SNLTR, UCSC.
3 full members, 4 institutional members, and 1 supporting member not present, 7.5 total votes

Public Review Issue — IDNA (B.10.1.2)

[122-C12] Consensus: Approve the working draft of draft Unicode Technical Standard #46: Unicode IDNA Compatibility Processing (L2/10-024) as an approved UTS, as modified during discussion.

[122-A47] Action Item for Mark Davis, Michel Suignard, Markus Scherer, Editorial Committee: Do final editorial review, verify data, and issue Unicode Technical Standard #46: Unicode IDNA Compatibility Processing as a final document, after issuance of the RFC numbers of IDNA2008. L2/10-024

[122-A48] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close the PRI for Unicode Technical Standard #46: Unicode IDNA Compatibility Processing with status that it will be modified according to feedback and published as an approved UTS. L2/10-024

[122-A49] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Prepare the document Unicode Technical Standard #46: Unicode IDNA Compatibility Processing and associated data for publication and post the final when ready. L2/10-024

[122-C13] Consensus: Advance proposed update UTR #36 as amended in discussion to approved Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations. L2/10-022.

[122-A50] Action Item for Mark Davis, Michel Suignard, Editorial Committee: Make final updates to Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations and post the approved document. L2/10-024

[122-A51] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close PRI #154. The draft is advanced to approved. L2/10-024

[122-A52] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Move the noted section from Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations into the security FAQ and add additional information to point to, from section 6 of UTS #39. L2/10-024

[122-A53] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Prepare the document Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations for publication and post the final when ready. (After Mark has completed his edits.) L2/10-024

[122-C14] Consensus: Advance proposed update UTS #39 as amended in discussion to approved Unicode Technical Standard #39: Unicode Security Mechanisms. L2/10-023.

[122-A54] Action Item for Mark Davis, Michel Suignard, Editorial Committee: Make changes to Unicode Technical Standard #39: Unicode Security Mechanisms as per discussion. L2/10-023

[122-A55] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close PRI #155. Draft is advanced to final.

[122-A56] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Prepare the document Unicode Technical Standard #39: Unicode Security Mechanisms and associated data for publication and post the final when ready. (After Mark has completed his edits.) L2/10-023

Symbols Subcommittee — Armenian Dram currency (D.5)

[122-C15] Consensus: Accept U+058F ARMENIAN DRAM SIGN for encoding in a future version of the standard. L2/10-008

[122-A57] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+058F ARMENIAN DRAM SIGN. L2/10-008.

[122-A58] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+058F ARMENIAN DRAM SIGN to WG2 document proposing new additions to 10646. L2/10-008.

[122-A59] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Karl Pentzlin with disposition of his document L2/10-008 (accepted for encoding in a future version of the standard).

Scripts — Typikon Symbols (C.6)

[122-C16] Consensus: Accept the four typikon symbols:
U+A698 Typikon Symbol Great Feast
U+A699 Typikon Symbol Vigil Service
U+A69A Typikon Symbol Polyeleos
U+A69B Typikon Symbol Lower Rank
for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[122-A60] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include four typikon symbols as documented in L2/09-310 at codepoints as documented in consensus 122-C16 above.

[122-A61] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add four typikon symbols as documented in L2/09-310 at codepoints as documented in consensus 122-C16 above to WG2 document proposing new additions to 10646.

[122-A62] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Follow up with the authors L2/09-310 to get a font and request a change to the glyph for Typikon Symbol Polyeleos, and forward the (revised) proposal to WG2.

Scripts — Takri (WG2 N3758) (C.9)

[122-C17] Consensus: Approve the 66 characters of the Takri script at U+11680 - U+116C9 with block Takri U+11680 - U+116CF, with character properties as documented in L2/09-424, for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[122-A63] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include Takri script as documented in L2/09-424 and 122-C17 above.

[122-A64] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add to Takri script to WG2 document proposing new additions to 10646. L2/09-424

[122-A65] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Work with the author of L2/09-424 to forward it to WG2.

WG2 — Unicode Vote on FDAM 7 (B.1.4.1.2.1 )

[122-C18] Consensus: Unicode votes "YES" on FDAM 7.

WG2 — Comments on FPDAM 8 (B.1.4.2.1.1)

[122-C19] Consensus: Unicode votes "NO", with comments as in L2/10-066, on FPDAM 8.

WG2 — Vote on FCD 10646 (B.1.4.4.2.1 )

[122-C20] Consensus: Unicode votes "YES", with comments as in L2/10-067, on FCD 10646. L2/10-038

SC2 — ISO-IEC 14651 PDAM 2.1 (B.2.2.2)

[122-C21] Consensus: UTC votes "YES", with comments as in L2/10-069, on the PDAM2 of 14651. L2/10-039

WG2 — Requesting new additions (B.1.6)

[122-C22] Consensus: UTC supports submitting document L2/10-068 with new proposed characters to WG2.

Scripts — Devanagari short letter (C.18)

[122-A66] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to author of L2/09-321 to say that this character does not meet the requirements for deprecation and the committee does not consider it sufficiently harmful to add an annotation that its use be discouraged. Cite Unicode Standard Annex #44: Unicode Character Database, section 5.10 Deprecation, paragraph 3.

Scripts — Hentaigana (C.25)

[122-A67] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Give feedback from UTC to author of L2/09-099 about the UTC discussion. L2/09-200

Friday, February 5, 2010

PRESENT: Adobe, Apple (proxy), Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sybase, UC Berkeley, Yahoo!
7 full members and 1 institutional members present, 8 total votes

NOT PRESENT: Denic e.G., India MIT, Monotype Imaging Corporation, Oracle Corporation, SAP AG, Tamil Nadu, W. Bengal SNLTR, UCSC.
3 full members, 4 institutional members, and 1 supporting member not present, 7.5 total votes

Scripts — Gujarati (C.19)

[122-C23] Consensus: The UTC endorses the principle about encoding North Indic abbreviation signs documented in L2/10-083.

[122-C24] Consensus: Change the script of U+0970 DEVANAGARI ABBREVIATION SIGN to Devanagari for Unicode 6.0.

[122-A68] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update the script property of U+0970 to Devanagari in a future version of the standard.

[122-A69] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Provide appropriate annotations for U+0970 in the standard and the nameslist for Unicode 6.0.

[122-C25] Consensus: Accept U+0AF0 GUJARATI ABBREVIATION SIGN with script property Gujarati, for encoding in a future version of the standard. L2/09-330

[122-A70] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+0AF0 GUJARATI ABBREVIATION SIGN, for encoding in a future version of the standard. L2/09-330

[122-A71] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+0AF0 GUJARATI ABBREVIATION SIGN, to WG2 document proposing new additions to 10646. L2/09-330

[122-A72] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Forward document L2/09-330 to WG2.

Scripts — Gujarati Rupee Sign (C.20)

[122-A73] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Add an annotation to U+0AF1 indicating the preferred spelling for the Rupee sign, in a future version of the standard. 122-C25, L2/09-331

[122-A74] Action Item for Mark Davis: Add confusability mappings for characters that are, or contain, Indic abbreviation signs (Devanagari, Kaithi), in (the current version of) Unicode Technical Standard #39: Unicode Security Mechanisms. L2/09-331

[122-A75] Action Item for Mark Davis: After Unicode 6.0, add confusability mappings for characters that are, or contain, newly encoded Indic abbreviation signs, in Unicode Technical Standard #39: Unicode Security Mechanisms. L2/09-331

[122-A76] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Rick McGowan, Ken Whistler: Analyze documents on Vedic under C.3 and Indic annotations under C.23, and make recommendations for the next UTC meeting. L2/09-331

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