L2/12-007R2

Approved Minutes of the UTC 130 / L2 227 Joint Meeting
Sunnyvale, CA -- February 6-10, 2012
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UTC #130 Agenda
Revision date: May 7, 2012

Monday, February 6, 2012

PRESENT: Adobe Systems, Inc, Apple Computer, Inc, Google, Inc., IBM Corporation, Microsoft Corporation, Rearden Commerce, Inc., UC Berkeley, Yahoo! Inc. 7 full members and 1 institutional member present, 8 total votes

NOT PRESENT: Andhra Pradesh, MIT, Bangladesh Computer Council, India MIT, Monotype Imaging Corp., Oracle America Inc, W. Bengal, SNLTR 2 full members, 3 institutional member, and 1 supporting member not present, 5.5 total votes

Administrative — Action Item Review (A.5.2 )

[130-A2] Action Item for Eric Muller: Take information in the Indic technical report and turn it into a document for the document register.

Administrative — Calendar Review (A.6)

Properties — Error in ScriptExtensions (B.14.1)

[130-A3] Action Item for Mark Davis: Add Takri to ScriptExtensions.txt for the next version of the standard. [L2/12-029]

[130-A4] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Post an erratum about the omission of Takri from ScriptExtensions.txt. [L2/12-029]

Editorial — Glyph Erratum (B.13.1.1) 

[130-A5] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Determine if L2/12-050 shows an actual error in the glyph for U+0709 SYRIAC SUBLINEAR COLON SKEWED RIGHT, and if it is correct, then prepare and post an erratum and share with WG2.

CJK — Extensions to Ideographic Description Sequences (B.15.2)

[130-M1] Motion: Redefine IDSes to remove any numeric or qualitative limit and change the BNF in section 12.2 to replace "unified CJK ideograph" with "ideographic or private use" and "CJK radical" with "radical". (Ideograph = TRUE or Radical = TRUE or GenCat = Private Use) [L2/11-449]

Moved by Eric Muller, seconded by V S Umamaheswaran

6 for (Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, UCB)
0 against
2 abstain (Rearden, Yahoo!)

Motion carries

[130-A6] Action Item for Eric Muller, Editorial Committee: Update the text of section 12.2 in a future version of the standard to reflect motion  130-M1, on the definition of IDSes. [L2/11-449]

[130-A7] Action Item for Eric Muller: Prepare a document with proposed text changes to the Unicode Standard, section 12.2 and 10646 based on the changes to the IDS definition. See motion 130-M1. [L2/11-449]

[130-A8] Action Item for Peter Constable: Add the change to the IDS definition to the WG2 liaison document. [L2/11-449]

Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Administrative — Roll Call (A.1)

PRESENT: Adobe Systems, Inc, Apple Computer, Inc (proxy), Google, Inc., IBM Corporation, Microsoft Corporation, Rearden Commerce, Inc., UC Berkeley, Yahoo! Inc. 7 full members and 1 institutional member present, 8 total votes

NOT PRESENT: Andhra Pradesh, MIT, Bangladesh Computer Council, India MIT, Monotype Imaging Corp., Oracle America Inc, W. Bengal, SNLTR 2 full members, 3 institutional member, and 1 supporting member not present, 5.5 total votes

South Asian — Tamil (D.3)

[130-A9] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Editorial Committee: Update U+0B82 TAMIL SIGN ANUSVARA with an annotation and updated documentation. [L2/12-018, L2/12-031]

[130-A10] Action Item for V S Umamaheswaran: Respond to the author of L2/12-033.

[130-M2] Motion: Put the proposal to re-encode Tamil on the archive of notices of non-approval. [L2/12-033]

Moved by Ken Whistler, seconded by Lisa Moore

6 for (Adobe, Apple, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden, UCB, Yahoo!)
0 against
1 abstain (Google)

Motion carries

[130-A11] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Add the proposal to re-encode Tamil to the notices of non-approval. See motion 130-M2. [L2/12-033]

South Asian — Telugu (D.2)

[130-C1] Consensus: Encode U+0C34 TELUGU LETTER LLLA in a future version of the standard. [L2/12-015, L2/12-076]

[130-A12] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add U+0C34 TELUGU LETTER LLLA to the pipeline. [L2/12-015]

[130-A13] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+0C34 TELUGU LETTER LLLA to document requesting future additions to 10646. [L2/12-015]

[130-A14] Action Item for Michael Everson: Provide font for U+0C34 TELUGU LETTER LLLA to Michel Suignard. [L2/12-015]

[130-A15] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Editorial Committee: Update the core specification text on Telugu nakaara-pollu based on input in document L2/11-409. 

Scripts — Latin (C.11)

[130-C2] Consensus: The UTC encourages its member companies to review their implementations to ensure the correct input and display of all Lithuanian characters. [L2/12-026]

[130-A17] Action Item for Peter Constable: Add consensus 130-C2 on Lithuanian to the WG2 liaison report. [L2/12-026]

[130-A18] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Ask for more information on similar characters to be added to the proposal on Sakha. [L2/12-044]

Scripts — Greek Papyrological Characters (C.12) 

[130-C3] Consensus: Accept U+1018B GREEK ONE QUARTER SIGN, U+1018C GREEK SINUSOID SIGN, U+101A0 GREEK SYMBOL TAU RHO, with properties as given in L2/12-034, for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[130-A19] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+1018B GREEK ONE QUARTER SIGN, U+1018C GREEK SINUSOID SIGN, U+101A0 GREEK SYMBOL TAU RHO. [L2/12-034]

[130-A20] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add to the document for WG2 requesting future additions: U+1018B GREEK ONE QUARTER SIGN, U+1018C GREEK SINUSOID SIGN, U+101A0 GREEK SYMBOL TAU RHO. [L2/12-034]

Scripts — Cyrillic (C.14) 

[130-C4] Consensus: Accept U+052E CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER EL WITH DESCENDER and and U+052F CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER EL WITH DESCENDER, with properties as given in L2/12-052, for encoding in a future version of the standard. [L2/12-052]

[130-A21] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add U+052E CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER EL WITH DESCENDER and U+052F CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER EL WITH DESCENDER to the pipeline. [L2/12-052]

[130-A22] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+052E CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER EL WITH DESCENDER and U+052F CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER EL WITH DESCENDER to the document requesting new additions. [L2/12-052]

[130-A23] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Update proposal L2/12-052 for encoding U+052E CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER EL WITH DESCENDER and U+052F CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER EL WITH DESCENDER as per discussion and forward to WG2. [L2/12-052]

[130-A24] Action Item for Michael Everson: Make/get a font for U+052E CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER EL WITH DESCENDER and and U+052F CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER EL WITH DESCENDER and forward to Michel Suignard. [L2/12-052]

South Asian — Myanmar (D.7) 

[130-C5] Consensus: Accept 28 Myanmar characters at U+AA7C .. U+AA7F and U+A9E7 .. U+A9FE for encoding in a future version of the standard. [L2/11-130]

[130-A25] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with 28 Myanmar characters. [L2/11-130]

[130-A26] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add 28 Myanmar characters to the WG2 document requesting future additions. [L2/11-130]

[130-A27] Action Item for Lorna Priest: Provide a font to Michel Suignard for 28 Myanmar characters. [L2/11-130]

[130-A28] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Prepare comments as a response to L2/12-063 on Named UCS Sequence Identifier UYGHUR LETTERS for the upcoming WG2 meeting.

Wednesday, February 8, 2012

PRESENT: Adobe Systems, Inc., Apple Computer, Inc., Google, Inc., IBM Corporation, Microsoft Corporation, Rearden Commerce, Inc., UC Berkeley, Yahoo! Inc. 7 full members and 1 institutional member present, 8 total votes

NOT PRESENT: Andhra Pradesh, MIT, Bangladesh Computer Council, India MIT, Monotype Imaging Corp., Oracle America Inc, W. Bengal, SNLTR 2 full members, 3 institutional member, and 1 supporting member not present, 5.5 total votes

Scripts — Pahawh Hmong (C.6)

Scripts — Runic (C.5) 

[130-C6] Consensus: Accept 8 Runic characters at U+16F1 .. U+16F8 for encoding in a future version of the standard, with glyphs and properties as specified in L2/11-096R.

[130-A30] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include 8 Runic characters at U+16F1..U+16F8, as specified in L2/11-096R.

[130-A31] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add 8 Runic characters at U+16F1..U+16F8 as specified in L2/11-096R to the WG2 document requesting new additions.

Scripts — Cyrillic (C.14) 

[130-C7] Consensus: Accept 4 Cyrillic letters for encoding at U+052A..U+052D in a future version of the standard, with glyphs and properties as specified in L2/12-040:

052A CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER DZZHE
052B CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER DZZHE
052C CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER DCHE
052D CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER DCHE

[130-A32] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include 4 Cyrillic letters at U+052A..U+052D. [L2/12-040]

[130-A33] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add 4 Cyrillic letters at U+052A..U+052D to the WG2 document requesting new additions. [L2/12-040]

Scripts — Latin (C.11)

[130-M3] Motion: Accept 5 Latin letters for encoding in a future version of the standard, with properties and case relations as specified in L2/12-082:

A796 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER B WITH FLOURISH
A797 LATIN SMALL LETTER B WITH FLOURISH
A7AB LATIN CAPITAL LETTER REVERSED OPEN E
A7AC LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SCRIPT G
A7F7 LATIN EPIGRAPHIC LETTER SIDEWAYS I

Moved by Lisa Moore, seconded by Eric Muller

7 for (Yahoo, IBM, Apple, Adobe, Rearden, Microsoft, UCB)
0 against
1 abstain (Google)

Motion carries

[130-A34] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include 5 Latin letters as specified in L2/12-082. See motion 130-M3.

[130-A35] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add 5 Latin letters as specified in L2/12-082 to the WG2 document requesting new additions.

Scripts — Mende (C.8)

[130-M4] Motion: Accept 269 Mende characters at U+1E800..U+1E918 with block "Mende" at U+1E800..U+1E91F for encoding in a future version of the standard, with properties as specified in L2/12-023.

Moved by Eric Muller, seconded by Michel Suignard

4 for (Adobe, Apple, IBM, UCB)
0 against
4 abstain (Google, Microsoft, Rearden, Yahoo)

Motion fails

[130-M5] Motion: Accept 197 Mende letters at 1E800-1E8C4 with block "Mende" 1E800-1E8CF for encoding in a future version of the standard, with properties as specified in L2/12-023. [L2/12-023]

Moved by V S Umamaheswaran, seconded by Michel Suignard.

6 for (Yahoo, IBM, Apple, Rearden, Microsoft, UCB)
1 against (Adobe)
1 abstain (Google)
Motion passes.

[130-A36] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include 197 Mende letters as specified in L2/12-023.

[130-A37] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add 197 Mende letters as specified in L2/12-023 to document requesting new additions.

Thursday, February 9, 2012

Administrative — Roll Call (A.1)

PRESENT: Adobe Systems, Inc., Apple Computer, Inc., Google, Inc., IBM Corporation, Microsoft Corporation, Rearden Commerce, Inc., UC Berkeley, Yahoo! Inc. 7 full members and 1 institutional member present, 8 total votes

NOT PRESENT: Andhra Pradesh, MIT, Bangladesh Computer Council, India MIT, Monotype Imaging Corp., Oracle America Inc, W. Bengal, SNLTR 2 full members, 3 institutional member, and 1 supporting member not present, 5.5 total votes

[130-C8] Consensus: Accept U+111C9 SHARADA EKAM with properties described in L2/11-430, for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[130-A38] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+111C9 SHARADA EKAM. [L2/11-430]

[130-A39] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+111C9 SHARADA EKAM to document requesting new additions. [L2/11-430]

[130-A40] Action Item for Anshuman Pandey: Send the font for U+111C9 SHARADA EKAM to Michel Suignard. [L2/11-430]

[130-A41] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update Bengali Isshar annotation. [L2/12-062]

CJK — Extensions to Ideographic Description Sequences (B.15.2) 

[130-C9] Consensus: Approve the changes in L2/12-081 for section 12.2 of the Unicode Standard for Unicode 6.1. [L2/11-449, L2/12-081]

[130-A42] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update section 12.2 of TUS for Unicode 6.1 to include changes to IDS as discussed in L2/12-081.

[130-A43] Action Item for Eric Muller: Produce a WG2 document about changes in L2/12-081 for section 12.2 of TUS for Unicode 6.1.

[130-A44] Action Item for Peter Constable: Mention IDS changes in the WG2 liaison report. [L2/12-081]

Editorial — Overriding default properties for PUA (B.13.3) 

[130-A45] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Incorporate changes on overriding default properties for the PUA from L2/12-041R into the core specification for Unicode 6.1.

Symbols — Emoji (C.15) 

[130-A46] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Communicate the UTC position on the disunification of Zodiac symbols based on L2/12-071 to Karl Pentzlin. [L2/12-043R]

Properties — Unicode_1_Name (B.14.3) 

[130-C10] Consensus: Make the Unicode 1.0 Name property in the UCD "Obsolete" in the next version of Unicode. [L2/11-451]

[130-A47] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update the information about the Unicode 1.0 Name property in UAX #44, Unicode Character Database in the next version of the standard. [L2/11-451]

Public Review Issue 182 — Unicode Regular Expressions (B.11.1)

[130-A48] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update Proposed Update UTS #18, Unicode Regular Expressions with necessary modifications. [L2/12-083]

South Asian — JIHVAMULIYA and UPADHMANIYA (D.5) 

[130-C11] Consensus: The UTC has determined that a virama should not be used in Sharada sequences involving Jihvamuliya and Upadhmaniya. [L2/12-020, L2/12-028]

[130-A49] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Editorial Committee: Update the Sharada block description for Unicode 6.1 to reflect Consensus 130-C11 regarding non-use of virama with Jihvamuliya and Upadhmaniya. [L2/12-020, L2/12-028]

Public Review Issue 208 — Unicode Security Considerations (B.11.3)

[130-A50] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to Gervase Markham and Patrick Jones regarding their feedback on Proposed Update Unicode Technical Report #36, Unicode Security Considerations. [L2/12-042]

[130-A51] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update the draft of Proposed Update Unicode Technical Report #36, Unicode Security Considerations and post as a refreshed proposed update. [L2/12-042]

Public Review Issue 209 —  Unicode Security Mechanisms (B.11.4)

[130-A52] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to Patrick Jones regarding his feedback on Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #39 Unicode Security Mechanisms. [L2/12-042]

[130-A53] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update the draft of UTR #39 and post as a refresh of the current proposed update. [L2/12-042]

CJK — Urgently Needed Characters Process ( B.15.1) 

[130-C12] Consensus: Forward L2/11-442R to WG2 as a US/UTC joint contribution.

[130-A54] Action Item for Ken Lunde: Send a revised version of L2/11-442R to WG2.

Properties — Metadata and Overridable (B.14.5, B14.6) 

[130-A55] Action Item for Lisa Moore: Put B.14.5 and B.14.6 onto the agenda for next meeting. [L2/12-074, L2/12-075R]

Public Review Issues — Other Feedback (B.11.5.1) 

[130-A56] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Philippe Verdy regarding his feedback from Nov 10, 2011. [L2/12-042]

[130-A57] Action Item for Mark Davis: Correct the @missing NaN according to report from Markus from Nov 7, 2011. [L2/12-042]

[130-A58] Action Item for Julie Allen, Editorial Committee: Issue an erratum based on the report from Markus Scherer regarding @missing NaN from Nov 7, 2011.[L2/12-042]

[130-A59] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Markus Scherer regarding @missing NaN. [L2/12-042]

[130-A60] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Ask Markus Scherer to take feedback dated "Tue Nov 8 00:30:19 CST 2011" and separate it into different topics, and submit those as separate documents for the next UTC meeting. [L2/12-042]

[130-A61] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to Nijtmans with a response to his input on UAX #44, Unicode Character Database, section 5.3 which describes. [L2/12-042]

[130-A62] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to Karl Williamson regarding 6.1 NameAlias feedback that the UTC thinks this is operator error. The current proposed draft of UTS #18, Unicode Regular Expressions does not say that the Unicode 1.0 name field should be supported. [L2/12-042]

[130-A63] Action Item for Mark Davis: Look into the problem specified by Markus Scherer in his feedback from "Jan 26 2012". [2/12-042]

[130-A64] Action Item for Lisa Moore: Put John Cowan's feedback in L2/12-042 about L2/11-373 onto the agenda for when that document is discussed at the next UTC. 

[130-A65] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Look at feedback on "Encoding Georgian and Nuskhuri letters for Ossetian and Abkhaz" and make annotations or entries if appropriate. [L2/12-042]

[130-A66] Action Item for Lisa Moore: Add L2/12-042 (Cowan Jan 26 feedback) to the agenda item for L2/12-030 (UTR #45, U-Source Ideographs) for next meeting.

[130-A67] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to John Cowan regarding L2/12-067.

CJK — Extensions to Ideographic Description Sequences (B.15.2) 

[130-C13] Consensus: Submit L2/12-087 on extensions to ideographic description sequences to WG2.

[130-A68] Action Item for Eric Muller: Send L2/12-087 to WG2.

[130-C14] Consensus: Accept U+A7AD LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L WITH BELT with casing and properties as documented in L2/12-080 for encoding in a future version of the standard. [L2/12-080]

[130-A69] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add U+A7AD LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L WITH BELT to pipeline. [L2/12-080]

[130-A70] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+A7AD LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L WITH BELT to the document requesting future WG2 additions. [L2/12-080]

Friday, February 10, 2012

PRESENT: Adobe Systems, Inc., Apple Computer, Inc., Google, Inc., IBM Corporation, Microsoft Corporation, Rearden Commerce, Inc., UC Berkeley, Yahoo! Inc. 7 full members and 1 institutional member present, 8 total votes

NOT PRESENT: Andhra Pradesh, MIT, Bangladesh Computer Council, India MIT, Monotype Imaging Corp., Oracle America Inc, W. Bengal, SNLTR 2 full members, 3 institutional member, and 1 supporting member not present, 5.5 total votes

[130-A71] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Send comments from UTC discussion to the proposers of L2/12-022 Medieval East-Slavic Musical Notation. [L2/12-022]

Scripts — Low One Dot Leader (C.22) 

[130-A72] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Karl Pentzlin on the low one dot leader proposal. [L2/11-364]

Scripts — Linguistic Doubt Marks (C.23) 

[130-A73] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Karl Pentzlin on linguistic doubt marks. [L2/11-373]

[130-A74] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Karl Pentzlin on the proposal for two Greek modifier letters. [L2/11-374]

Scripts — Combining Decimal Digits Above (C.25) 

[130-A75] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Karl Pentzlin on the proposal for combining decimal digits above. [L2/11-375]

Scripts —Annotations for Transliteration of Hebrew (C.30) 

[130-A76] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Review document L2/12-065 on Hebrew transliteration to see if any action should be taken.

Scripts — Metrical Symbols (C.29) 

[130-A77] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Respond to Karl Pentzlin on the proposal to encode metrical symbols. [L2/12-064]

[130-C15] Consensus: Re-affirm ISO 6937:2001 and INCITS 4-1986. [L2/12-046]

UTC Attendance

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