RE: Proposed New Character

From: Paul Dempsey (Exchange) (paulde@exchange.microsoft.com)
Date: Mon Feb 01 1999 - 00:23:28 EST


I don't know if this character was considered for inclusion in Unicode.

The character 24C5;CIRCLED LATIN CAPITAL LETTER P should suffice for this
purpose.

One could also use the combination:
0050;LATIN CAPITAL LETTER P
20DD;COMBINING ENCLOSING CIRCLE

You might argue that this symbol is on par with 00A9;COPYRIGHT SIGN, where
one could use 24B8;CIRCLED LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C. However, COPYRIGHT SIGN
is in Unicode because it exists in existing standards upon which Unicode is
based, and serves the purpose of round-trip conversions from those
standards. If you can cite an existing character-set standard that includes
the phonorecord sign, then you have a much stronger case for inclusion.

There are similar symbols such as (P) PAREVE SIGN, and (K) KOSHER SIGN found
on American food product packaging, etc. These also can be served by the
24B6-24E9 CIRCLED LATIN... range of characters.

--- Paul Chase Dempsey
Microsoft Visual Studio Text Editor Development

-----Original Message-----
From: john r. durand [mailto:jrd@oz.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 1999 8:25 PM
To: Unicode List
Subject: Proposed New Character

i would like to sponsor a proposal to include a new character in the Unicode
standard. before formally doing so, however, i wanted to check that the
proposed
character hadn't been previously rejected or wasn't already in process.

the character in question is the phonorecord sign (best represented in this
message as "(P)"). the following description, taken from
http://www.patent-law.com/copyright.html, provides a good description of the
character:

   The copyright notice for phonorecord of sound recording [Sound recordings
are
   defined as "works that result from the fixation of a series of musical,
   spoken, or other sounds, but not including the sounds accompanying a
motion
   picture or other audiovisual work, regardless of the nature of the
material
   objects, such as disks, tapes, or other phonorecords, in which they are
   embodied."] has somewhat different requirements. The notice appearing on
   phonorecord should contain the following three elements:

      1. The symbol (P) (the letter P in a circle); and

      2. The year of first Publication of sound recording; and

      3. The name of the owner of copyright in the sound recording, or and
         abbreviation by which the name can recognized, or a generally known
         alternative designation of the owner. If the producer of the sound
         recording is named on the phonorecord labels or containers, and if
no
         other name appears in conjunction with the notice, the producer's
name
         shall be considered a part of the notice.

      Example: (P) 1994 A.B.C., Inc.

this character it is the copyright equivalent for sound recordings. an
example
can be seen on the back of any CD.

i'm very interested to hear whether this has been discussed previously
and/or
the current status of any earlier proposals.

john



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