Re: CP1252 under Unix

From: Markus Kuhn (
Date: Fri Mar 24 2000 - 13:46:45 EST

Frank da Cruz wrote on 2000-03-24 18:30 UTC:
> That's fine for browsers (except Lynx!).

Lynx can easily recode incoming CP1252 and Unicode-NCR HTML files into
UTF-8 and then output them on xterm, which does now support the full
MES-3 repertoire and more with UTF-8.

> But most serious access to Unix
> is text based -- that's why we like it: it has a shell, etc, that lets us
> do what we want. Shells are accessed by terminals (including Xterm, which
> follows ISO 2022). Terminals don't like character sets with graphics in C1.
> So why should their use be encouraged in Unix?

I do not argue that CP1252 should be used locally under Unix. However it
is fully acceptable in MIME messages, which can easily be recoded to
UTF-8 before they are archived in the local file system.

Unix users should not be scared any more of CP1252-repertoire
characters, especially not when they come UTF-8 encoded. They should
more see it as the first step towards more complete UTF-8 support. I
want to see lots of U+2018/19 quotation marks etc. used in daily Unix
practice, such that these important everyday English language characters
get soon as ubiquitously supported as the ASCII repertoire under Unix.


Markus G. Kuhn, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge, UK
Email: mkuhn at,  WWW: <>

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