I'm glad I could help.
My understanding is that there will be support in some future JDK... don't
know when though. You can, of course, create your own.
Good luck to you.
Addison
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Vinit Bhatt wrote:
> Hi Addison,
>
> Thanks for really descriptive and explanatory email.
> It helped me a lot in grasping basics of Unicode and Internationalization.
> I also got good link from the site you gave me. That is :-
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/guide/intl/intlTOC.doc.html
>
>
> I got supported encoding from :-
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/guide/intl/encoding.doc.html
>
> Unfortunately, not a single language from India is supported.
> May be in future JDK versions i hope.
>
> If i have any questions further, i will ask you.
> Thanks!
>
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Vinit Bhatt
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: addison@inter-locale.com [mailto:addison@inter-locale.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 6:49 PM
> > To: Unicode List
> > Cc: Unicode List
> > Subject: RE: Question
> >
> >
> > Hi Vinit,
> >
> > Actually, the Locale class is built into the Java language.
> >
> > Perhaps my previous message was unclear, but the tutorial you are looking
> > for is called "Internationalization" and is located
> > at: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/i18n
> >
> > I'm curious about what it is that you're looking for, in terms of "classes
> > on Unicode". Most people who ask about it mean "How can I display foreign
> > (sic) language characters in my program?"
> >
> > Java, as I'm sure you're aware, uses a form of Unicode as its internal
> > character set for Strings and characters. As a result, a variety of
> > functions are "Unicode aware": for example, the Collator class has methods
> > for "normalizing" strings in order to get a better sorting, which is based
> > on the appropriate UTR (#15, if I remember correctly... I should look
> > these things up).
> >
> > But you really cannot separate "Unicode support" in Java from "Locale
> > support" and support for internationalization (features such as
> > ResourceBundles for storing your externalized strings or the DateFormat
> > class which lets you see appropriates formatted dates). You should make
> > yourself familiar with these concepts first.
> >
> > The Unicode website has a lot of information specific to the Unicode
> > Standard which will help you understand why Java is the way that it
> > is. You will probably want to purchase your own copy of the Unicode
> > Standard 3.0 if you really get into this stuff.
> >
> > Some caveats:
> >
> > If you are trying to do languages based on Devanagari or other Indic
> > languages, support is skimpy in Java at this time. Support for Thai is
> > sketchy.
> >
> > Some of the classes are incomplete or do not have in-built implementations
> > for all cases that you will need. For example, the Calendar class doesn't
> > have in-built support for non-Western calendars (like you'll find in
> > the Arabic speaking world, Thailand, Japan, and so on) and the
> > BreakIterator class really only handles text with spaces in it well.
> >
> > These kinds of things are being addressed in future JDKs, I'm told.
> >
> > I hope this helps. My website is new, so it's pretty skimpy on all of
> > these topics (no doubt you saw the "under construction" banners). However,
> > the Locale demo page is evolving pretty well (even today it's changed for
> > the better), and soon it will include code snippets and links to Java
> > documentation... and, if I have time over the weekend, I might even demo
> > some of IBM's nifty classes from AlphaWorks.
> >
> > I hope this helps.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Addison
> >
> > ===========================================================
> > Addison P. Phillips Principal Consultant
> > Inter-Locale LLC http://www.inter-locale.com
> > Los Gatos, CA, USA mailto:addison@inter-locale.com
> >
> > +1 408.210.3569 (mobile) +1 408.904.4762 (fax)
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> >
> > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Vinit Bhatt wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Addison,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the information.
> > >
> > > I tried to look on your website to get more info. on Locale.
> > > Is it a translator that you are developing ?
> > >
> > > I looked under www.javasoft.com , under tutorial link and could
> > not find any
> > > Unicode tutorial. Can you please guide me through a specific URL on
> > > javasoft where
> > > i can find the example classes templates on Unicode ? That
> > will really help
> > > in
> > > coding my efforts. thanks a lot.
> > >
> > > Thanks and regards,
> > > Vinit Bhatt
> > > 703-344-6942
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: addison@inter-locale.com [mailto:addison@inter-locale.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:16 PM
> > > > To: Unicode List
> > > > Cc: Unicode List
> > > > Subject: Re: Question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well....
> > > >
> > > > A list of languages supported by Unicode is fairly long (and a complex
> > > > topic).
> > > >
> > > > The Java programming language has varying levels of support
> > for a variety
> > > > of languages. This support is evolving, even as I write.
> > > >
> > > > For example:
> > > > There is no (built-in) support for calendars other than the Gregorian
> > > > calendar (although you can make your own and there are
> > several available
> > > > from IBM).
> > > >
> > > > The Sun JDK comes with a variety of locales (144 at my
> > > > last count) pre-installed. Check out my Java Locale Viewer at:
> > > >
> > > http://www.inter-locale.com/demos/locales.jsp
> > >
> > > This demo shows many of the basic classes related to the Locale
> > object in
> > > use. I'm adding collation, normalization, the BreakIterator, and other
> > > features sometime this week.
> > >
> > > Before you start with books, check out the Javasoft website. They have a
> > > comprehensive Internationalization tutorial and several articles on the
> > > basic classes you'll need to understand.
> > >
> > > Many books on Java have a chapter on internationalization,
> > which is where
> > > you'll mostly find reference to such matters as Unicode. There
> > are also a
> > > couple of books coming out shortly on the topic.
> > >
> > > ===========================================================
> > > Addison P. Phillips Principal Consultant
> > > Inter-Locale LLC http://www.inter-locale.com
> > > Los Gatos, CA, USA mailto:addison@inter-locale.com
> > >
> > > +1 408.210.3569 (mobile) +1 408.904.4762 (fax)
> > > ===========================================================
> > > Globalization Engineering & Consulting Services
> > >
> > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Vinit Bhatt wrote:
> > >
> > > > How do i get list of languages which are supported by Unicode
> > in Java ?
> > > >
> > > > Also, what books you recommend to develop program in Java - Unicode ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks and regards,
> > > > Vinit Bhatt
> > > > 703-344-6942
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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