thank you for information.
I completely agree with you that codes should not be changes. I just wanted to
know more about rules.
best regards,
Sandro Karumidze
"Michael (michka) Kaplan" wrote:
> Sandro,
>
> Are you basically wanting the ordering to be different?
>
> Unicode does not have any expressed or implied warranty that the ordering of
> characters will be anything like what a user would expect (how can it, when
> even so many languages that use the same scripts have entirely different,
> occasionally conflicting, collation rules?
>
> It is up to the software to make the necessary collation rules happen.
>
> For example, in Windows 2000 there are two different sorts supported for
> Georgian: "modern" and "traditional." The difference is that modern has four
> letters (He, Hie, We, and Har, both Capital and Small) sort at the end of
> the alphabet (which I presume corresponds to the sort that you do not
> like?), while the traditional sort has:
>
> * He appearing between Zen and Tan
> * Hie appearing between Nar and On
> * We appearing between Un and Phar
> * Har appearing between Xan and Jhan
>
> I presume the above "exceptions" more closely match the sort you would
> expect? And if there are more, this would be very valuable information (as
> the rules behind all new "sorts" like this are that a valid need to sort
> text differently was identified.
>
> As a rule, Unicode order is not intended to be nor does it explicitly decide
> to follow any kind of collation rules for code point order.
>
> FWIW, the LCIDs behind these two sorts under Windows 2000 (used in the C
> CompareString and the VB StrComp) are:
>
> Traditional: 1079 (0x0437)
> Modern: 66615 (0x10437)
>
> michka
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sandro Karumidze" <sandro@osgf.ge>
> To: "Unicode List" <unicode@unicode.org>
> Cc: "Unicode List" <unicode@unicode.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 3:26 AM
> Subject: Re: is there any way to change already defined character codes?
>
> > Dear Chris,
> >
> > Thank you for your answer.
> >
> > > May I ask what is the reason these people from the government of Georgia
> want
> > > to change the codepoints of some Georgian characters? There is probably
> another
> > > good solution (or solutions) for whatever problem they think would be
> solved by
> > > changing encoding points.
> >
> > The issue is that in Unicode there is a sequence of Georgian caracters
> different
> > from what this people think should be.
> >
> > In modern Georgian there are 33 widely used characters. However before
> there were
> > 38 characters. In beginning of this century 5 characters were dropped,
> though still
> > used in old texts and by language specialists.
> >
> > In Unicode this 5 characters follow 33. There is a different point of view
> that
> > those 5 should be included among the ohters.
> >
> > This is all the issue - there are no specific implementation difficulties
> or
> > problems. The only point is that 5 among the rest 33 is more "correct".
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Sandro Karumidze
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > - Chris
> > >
> > > "Sandro Karumidze" <sandro@osgf.ge> wrote:
> > >
> > > > There are people from the government of Georgia interested in
> possibility in
> > > > altering Unicode standard it terms of changing codes for some of
> Georgian
> > > > characters.
> > >
> > > > Does this type of things happen in Consortium and if yes under what
> > > circumstances.
> > >
> > > > If not can you specify in which rules is it defined that this types of
> > > changes are
> > > > not allowed..
> > >
> > > > Thanks in advance for your support,
> > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > > Sandro Karumidze
> >
> >
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