Michka,
I would expect surrogate support in SQL Server 2000. Windows 2000 has
surrogate support however, it is turned off by default. I don't know why.
It is also supported by True Type so that once they get the assignments you
can install new fonts and enable surrogate support.
Carl
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael (michka) Kaplan [mailto:michka@trigeminal.com]
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:06 PM
To: Carl W. Brown; Unicode List
Subject: Re: lag time in Unicode implementations in OS, etc?
I agree 100%, and I could make the same argument for surrogate support in
SQL Server 2000 (i.e. there are no characters, so support is not relevant at
ship time) but since I cannot ever state with certanty what the next version
of products (i.e. Whistler or Yukon) will support, I do not want to fall in
the trap of making excuses now which would not be true next time.
The general rule that "support" is a difficult attribute to capture and my
example about the Unicode Bidi algorithm is hardly contrived, since many
products are technically non-compliant, but in ways that I tend to agree
with the differences and not with the algorithm.
michka
a new book on internationalization in VB at
http://www.i18nWithVB.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl W. Brown" <cbrown@xnetinc.com>
To: "Unicode List" <unicode@unicode.org>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: lag time in Unicode implementations in OS, etc?
> Michka,
>
> I would not expect Windows 2000 to support Unicode 3.0 especially since
the
> final build of W2K was sent manufacturing in November of 1999 too late for
> Unicode 3.0. Even if it had come out earlier in 1999 it would have been
> difficult to implement late in the development cycle unless the changes
were
> minor.
>
> Carl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael (michka) Kaplan [mailto:michka@trigeminal.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:15 AM
> To: Unicode List
> Subject: Re: lag time in Unicode implementations in OS, etc?
>
>
> Windows NT's latest version, Windows 2000, does not support Unicode 3.0.
> There are many scripts for which no keyboards exist, and which do not even
> have fonts or shaping rules for rendering.
>
> When it comes out is a generic question, so I will give you a generic
> answer: when they get the work done! :-) I do not know of a central place
> that lists who supports what version of Unicode is kept, and it might be a
> pretty monstrous thing to keep track of since it is a "per product" thing.
>
> Plus, there are other details: if Mozilla or IE chooses not to support a
> specific tenet of the Unicode Bidi algorithm, does that mean it is not
> compliant? If an OS has no keyboard or fonts for Ethiopic languages, does
> that mean it is not? And if a word processor does not support shaping
rules
> for the Tibetan script or Sinhala, is it not?
>
> michka
>
> a new book on internationalization in VB at
> http://www.i18nWithVB.com/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elaine Keown" <keown@altavista.com>
> To: "Unicode List" <unicode@unicode.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 9:57 AM
> Subject: lag time in Unicode implementations in OS, etc?
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm writing to inquire about the "lag time" between when Unicode 3.0 hit
> the street and when implementations in Windows NT, software tools, fonts,
> etc. came out? Does stuff usually come out within 3 months, 6 months, ?
> >
> > Is there a central URL that keeps track of implementations, so you can
> call it up and find out what OS, tool, etc has already implemented 3.0,
3.2?
> >
> > Also, if I just can't wait for Unicode 4.0, are there suggestions for
how
> to put the characters I'm waiting for into some block? I would like to
> start programming soon with text markup symbols that I hope will be
formally
> available in 4.0 or maybe 3.2, whatever. I may need them for a thesis
> project, for a text-processing algorithm.............. Is there a
procedure
> to do this?
> >
> > Thanks, Elaine
> >
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