Re: do all browsers support UTF-8 encoding???

From: Michael \(michka\) Kaplan (michka@trigeminal.com)
Date: Thu Oct 05 2000 - 00:43:46 EDT


Sandeep,

No, that is not what you need to do at all. How data is sent down to the
client from the server is entirely dependent on what you are doing on the
server.

For example, if you are using a Windows 2000 server, you can set the
Session.CodePage property to 932 for Japanese, 949 for Korean, etc., etc.
For other server types, there are similar solutions. By no means would you
need to have a separate server for each language.

In cases of "Unicode only" languages without an explicit code page, you can
set it to 65001 for UTF-8.... but this is never required.

michka

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandeep Krishna" <sandeepkrishna@noida.hcltech.com>
To: "Unicode List" <unicode@unicode.org>
Cc: "Unicode List" <unicode@unicode.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: do all browsers support UTF-8 encoding???

> hi...
>
> well.. as per ur suggestion.. i shouldnt send in UTF-8 coded text...
> and instead should send in text in local scripts (Big5, GB..., Shift-JIS
> etc.. )
>
> but doesnt that implicitly imply that i need to have a separate middle
tier
> support for each locale...
> that is i dedicate separate Web Servers specfically meant for a particular
> locale....(that is it only writes and reads to the DB server on a
> particualar encoding ..say. Big5)
>
> but my kindof set up doesnt permit me the liberty of separate Web Servers
> for separate locales.....(Business Rules.)
>
> so i dont think that solution hold valid for my case....
> any elaborations/clarifications.....
>
> regards,
>
> Sandeep
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <addison@inter-locale.com>
> To: Unicode List <unicode@unicode.org>
> Cc: Unicode List <unicode@unicode.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 10:22 PM
> Subject: Re: do all browsers support UTF-8 encoding???
>
>
> Hi Sandeep,
>
> Maybe this wasn't clear, but...
>
> IE 2,3,4.x and Netscape 2, 3, and 4.x will not display Chinese characters
> using the UTF-8 encoding as installed. They set the font for the UTF-8
> encoding to "Times New Roman" and therefore display black squares (the
> "empty glyph") for all Chinese characters.
>
> A lot of us think that you should not send UTF-8 to the browser if you are
> concerned about having large numbers of people with older browser versions
> (and cannot ensure that they all set the font to something more
> approprite, i.e. in a controlled environment such as an intranet). This
> appears to be your case.
>
> Short story:
>
> Work in Unicode (your choice, UTF-8 or UTF-16) at the server.
> Send UTF-8 to "modern" browsers (IE 5.x, NN 6.x).
> Send legacy encodings (such as Big5) to older browsers.
> Send UTF-8 to browsers serving languages that are compatible with UTF-8
> (Latin script languages in Western and Central Europe mostly).
>
> Regards,
>
> Addison
>
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> On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Sandeep Krishna wrote:
>
> > hi guys!!
> >
> > can someone tell me whether all browsers (atleast IE 2,3.0 and
> Netscape...) support encoding/deocding on UTF-8....
> >
> > and also, can there be an instance of browser (say a primitave version
of
> a Chinese Netscape) that supports Big 5 encoding but not UTF-8.
> > THis info. is crucial as i expect all users (of the site) to be capable
of
> using only UTF-8 encoding.......
> > so if there is a user whose browser doesnt support UTF-8 or it supports
> Big 5 but not UTF-8 then this is trouble..........
> >
> > anyone with some idea on this issue.......
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Sandeep
> >
> >
> >
>
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