RE: Tengwar added to Plane1 Unicode Demo Page

From: Rick Cameron (Rick.Cameron@crystaldecisions.com)
Date: Mon Jan 07 2002 - 16:21:58 EST


Are there any free fonts that support the Conscript encoding of Tengwar?

Thanks!

- rick cameron

-----Original Message-----
From: James Kass [mailto:jameskass@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2002 13:59
To: Unicode List; Rick McGowan
Cc: Tex Texin; Tom Gewecke
Subject: Re: Tengwar added to Plane1 Unicode Demo Page

Rick's right, of course.

Perhaps if the experimental aspect of the page were stressed and a strong
warning were given, it might be slightly more acceptable?

Maybe the ConScript PUA encoding could be added to the BMP
demo page. But, there are many people (some on this list, even) who
vehemently oppose the PUA and reject ConScript. (I've always thoroughly
enjoyed the ConScript Registry.)

The traditional way to display Tengwar is to use any of the many fine
Tengwar "custom-ASCII" fonts, which many people on our list might find even
more objectionable than Plane One or Conscript PUA.

The bottom line is that there is just no way to display Tengwar which is
going to please everyone at the same time. (Graphics, well... in-line
graphics spark objections, too. For one thing,
they aren't text, are they?)

So, my take on Tex's Plane One demo page is: he's damned if he does and
ignored if he doesn't. Etruscan, Gothic, Deseret, and even the Math
alphabets just aren't very commercial. Tengwar, on the other hand, is very
commercial. Especially right now, what with the movie tie-in and a whole
new generation of fans.

This is Tex Texin's page and Tom Gewecke's submission. If anyone has any
constructive suggestions or ideas on this matter, they will most probably be
appreciated.

Best regards,

James Kass.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McGowan" <rick@unicode.org>
To: <unicode@unicode.org>
Cc: <texin@progress.com>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Tengwar added to Plane1 Unicode Demo Page

> Tex, et al --
>
> > ... have added a Tengwar entry [...] to the Plane 1 Demo page.
>
> Woah! Hang on there!
>
> I would like to voice a shout of vehement discouragement about this
> sort
> of thing. Tex wrote "it's not officially in Unicode yet" -- which still
> means "it isn't in Unicode".
>
> Making an entry in this demo file for a proposed Plane 1 script that
> is
> NOT IN UNICODE, is both premature and dangerous. It has not been discussed

> in committee, and a spot for Tengwar on the roadmap is absolutely NO
> GUARANTEE of any future disposition.
>
> If someone feels compelled to make an entry for Tengwar in any demo,
> please do it in the PUA so that people don't start getting the idea that
> Tengwar is encoded, because it's not encoded, and is not going to be
> encoded any time soon.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
>



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