----- Original Message -----
From: "Karl Pentzlin" <karl-pentzlin@acssoft.de>
To: <unicode@unicode.org>
Sent: den 29 januari 2002 23:39
Subject: Introducing the idea of a "ROMAN VARIANT SELECTOR" (was: Re:
Proposing Fraktur)
> While in Swedish this is a *tradition* according to Stefan, in German
> it is even a *rule*.
Also in Swedish, this was a rule. But from the end of the 18th century,
people began publishing books in Fraktur *only*, or antiqua *only*. In some
books, the antiqua part was written in italics instead. NOTE: This italic
thing should be considered as a glyph variant.
> Maybe something like a "ROMAN VARIANT SELECTOR" would be appropriate:
In any case, it'd be better to have *two* selectors, one to turn on Fraktur,
and a different one to turn it off. Otherwise, you'd have to put the variant
selector after *every* letter you want to be in antiqua, which would require
quite a lot of space. However, Fraktur is already encoded in the
Mathematical whatever-it's-called block. This variant selector would mean
that lots of characters can be displayed in two *different* ways. I'd prefer
that Fraktur diacritics were added instead, and that the mathematical
letters were to be used for Fraktur texts.
NOTE: Sometimes part of a word is in Fraktur, and a different part in
antiqua. Example: the Swedish word "latin" is a Latin loan word, and should
thus be written in antiqua. However, if you add the Swedish ending "-sk,"
you'll get "latinsk" ("Latin-like"). The ending is Swedish and can, but
doesn't have to, be written in Fraktur. It's up to the author to decide
which.
> This selector could fulfill another important purpose:
>
> If this selector appears after a U+017F (long s), this character is
> only to be displayed as "long s" when it is (by means of a higher level
> protocol) to be displayed in Fraktur. Otherwise it is to be displayed
> as U+0073 (lower case "s").
"Long s" is displayed as "long s" in antiqua words used in Fraktur Swedish.
So this wouldn't work. Instead, one would have to write "s" in German texts.
A comma after a Fraktur word is displayed as *either* "," or "/" (glyph
difference), while a comma after an antiqua word is *always* displayed as
",". So I guess that a Fraktur comma would also have to be added…
Stefan
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