RE: Standard Conventions and euro

From: Suzanne M. Topping (stopping@bizwonk.com)
Date: Mon Mar 04 2002 - 09:58:41 EST


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Ewell [mailto:dewell@adelphia.net]
> Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 12:55 PM
> To: Keld Jørn Simonsen
> Cc: Jungshik Shin; Marco Cimarosti; 'Michael Everson';
> unicode@unicode.org; David Starner
> Subject: Re: Standard Conventions and euro
>
>
> Keld Jørn Simonsen <keld@dkuug.dk> wrote:
>
> >> Locale systems that force you to pick one immutable set of
> conventions
> >> for a given country are broken in general. I remember
> having to tell
> >> MS-DOS that I was in South Africa or someplace, just to get my
> directory
> >> listing the way I wanted it. *nix systems that start with "fr_FR"
> and
> >> then allow you to define "fr_FR-EURO" or something really
> aren't much
> >> better; what if I want to deviate from the pre-defined
> locale in four
> or
> >> five ways instead of just one?
> >
> > You have to pick one, Doug. You cannot write
> > "On the 3/1/02 2002-03-01 1/3/02 1/3/2002 1.3.2002 I went to..."
> > Or you can write it but weiting the same date in 5 different
> > formats in the same line is not customary and superflous.
>
> That's not what I meant, of course. I meant, what if I want
> to use the
> en_US locale (e.g. to make sure a spelling checker uses the right
> dictionary), *but* I also want to use:
>
> - UTF-8 instead of ISO 8859-1, and
> - yyyy-mm-dd instead of m/d/yy, and
> - 24-hour time (with seconds) instead of 12-hour, and
> - some "negative money" format different from the default, and
> - have the week start on Monday instead of Sunday
> (I don't know if this last one is part of the *nix locale model)
>
> Several people responded that I can go root and define my own private
> locale, with whatever settings I like. That's just what I
> would want to
> do, so the problem would be solved, but then I'm not really sure why I
> would need to give the new locale a name, since it's not
> interoperable.
>
> But this is all very OT and I'd better stop now, because I know how
> quickly this discussion can devolve into Operating System Wars.
>
> -Doug Ewell
> Fullerton, California
>
>
>
>



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