RE: Cyrillic character mapping tables, HP MSL to Unicode

From: Neil J Geddes (neil.geddes@g-futures.com)
Date: Wed Sep 03 2003 - 10:08:06 EDT

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    Thanks Philippe. What I really need now is access to additional Euro-Asian HP TFM files.

    Regards, Neil

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Philippe Verdy [mailto:verdy_p@wanadoo.fr]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:57 AM
    To: Neil J Geddes
    Cc: unicode@unicode.org
    Subject: Re: Cyrillic character mapping tables, HP MSL to Unicode

    Did you read the last PDF, notably as it says the following about Table
    D-3:

    [/quote]
    D - MSL/Unicode Symbol Indexes

    Introduction

    Table D-1, the Master Symbol List, lists all of the characters available for the printers and their MSL index numbers. Table D-2, shows the characters contained in the MSL symbol collections. Table D-3, the Unicode Symbol List, lists all of the characters available for the printers and identifies their unicode index number. Table D-4 shows the characters contained in the unicode symbol collections. [/quote]

    Well, I misread the description myself, confused about the title of the section, and it's true that only *some* MSL indices are identical to the Unicode code points. It's a shame that one has to compute the conversion by looking at glyph and names given by HP, which do not correspond to Unicode names. It would have been simpler if HP had referenced in its 1999 release of its book, the Unicode code points in Table D-1, and used the official Unicode names (additionally the table D-3 should have listed the MSL index in a reverse index, and not used the decimal code points but hexadecimal notation U+xxxx). But joining D-1 nad D-3 is possible, and allows creating the conversion table between MSL to Unicode.

    Philippe.
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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Neil J Geddes" <neil.geddes@g-futures.com>
    To: "Philippe Verdy" <verdy_p@wanadoo.fr>
    Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:40 AM
    Subject: RE: Cyrillic character mapping tables, HP MSL to Unicode

    Hello Philippe,

    Thank you very much for your messages and for taking the time to respond. I appreciate this.

    I had already checked most of these resources (like you I have the older paper manuals) however none provide symbol charts for the Cyrillic character sets. I think I really need to locate TFM files if available. MSL isn't the same as Unicode however I have found a MSL -> CG table which should help me.

    Thanks again,
    Neil

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Philippe Verdy [mailto:verdy_p@wanadoo.fr]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 1:42 AM
    To: Neil J Geddes; unicode@unicode.org
    Subject: Re: Cyrillic character mapping tables, HP MSL to Unicode

    More precisely, try this file: http://h200007.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/bpl13206/bpl13206.pdf
    which contains all the symbol sets charts and cross-references with the MSL/Unicode code and their assignment in other subsets. It is refered within the downloadable reference CDROM for the PCL language.

    The MSL index seems to be the Unicode code point, so the MSL is merely a subset of Unicode, as used in the HP implementation of the HP PCL - GL/2 symbol sets and fonts.

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