RE: Oriya: mba / mwa ?

From: Peter Constable (petercon@microsoft.com)
Date: Mon Dec 01 2003 - 13:24:07 EST

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    > Your suggestion that NYA could be involved is less plausible.

    I didn't actually suggest it was nya; I merely pointed out that the same
    shape is used for more than /o/.

    > >I still haven't seen clear evidence; only an assertion of the former
    > >based on a hypothesis that, granted, is certainly plausible.
    >
    > I cited examples already:
    >
    > k. + ba (wa) = kwa

    Your examples do not constitute clear evidence: the question is whether
    the characters underlying /kwa/ are k + ba or k + something else, and
    what you have written has to be taken either as presupposing the answer
    (thus not eligible as evidence) or as ambiguous -- either it is ba or it
    is wa.

    > I think we should avoid revisionist encodings, which will make it
    > impossible to deal with older data.

    Revisionist encodings? If the encoding is getting implemented for the
    first time, one can hardly talk of revisionist encodings. But this is a
    good question: are there Oriya implementation precedents? How were these
    conjuncts handled in ISCII and is there an official mapping between
    ISCII and Unicode for these sequences?

     
    > >I was hoping there might be some Indian -- Oriyan -- implementers or
    > >users lurking that might want to comment. If not, then there's not
    > >much more to say on this topic here. I'll try elsewhere;
    >
    > I did order dictionaries so that I can help you.

    Most kind. I asked for details about the dictionaries, but I don't think
    you replied to that.

    Peter
     
    Peter Constable
    Globalization Infrastructure and Font Technologies
    Microsoft Windows Division



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