From: Peter Kirk (peterkirk@qaya.org)
Date: Mon Jan 05 2004 - 14:34:24 EST
On 05/01/2004 10:17, Philippe Verdy wrote:
> ...
>
>>Can we leave OI/gha out of this? ...
>>
>>
>
>Certainly, but that's not me who suggested to unify the "i with bottom right
>hook"
>as a variant of "oi/gha". In fact if you read what I read, I have exactly
>said the
>opposite, because I have always thought that "oi/gha" was a variant of "g"
>and not of "i"...
>
>
>
Just for clarification, I didn't either. The first message in which the
concept was mentioned was Philippe saying that he did not suggest this.
>Look at the summary of sounds with "similar" glyphs I posted early, then
>this is very clear... This summary was needed because the GIF posted by
>Peter was not found in the list (Peter just posted a plain-text description,
>but the table he created was not usable as all the column formatting was
>lost from his post...)
>
>
Sorry about this. I will try to recover the formatting. The following
may work, if viewed with a fixed width font:
Approx
IPA 1923- 1933- 1958- 1992-
sound 1933 1938 1991
ɑ A a A a А а A a
æ Ə ə Ə ə Ә ә Ə ə
b B b B b Б б B b
ʧ Ç ç C c Ч ч Ç ç
d D d D d Д д D d
e E e E e Е е E e
f F f F f Ф ф F f
ɟ Ƣ ƣ G g Ҝ ҝ G g
ʁ G g Ƣ ƣ Ғ ғ Ğ ğ
h H h H h Һ һ H h
i I i I i И и İ i
ɯ * Ƅ ƅ Ы ы I ı
ʤ C c Ç ç Ҹ ҹ C c
c (q) Q q K k К к K k
χ X x X x Х х X x
l L l L l Л л L l
m M m M m М м M m
n N n N n Н н N n
ŋ Ŋ ŋ Ŋ ŋ
o O o O o О о O o
ø Ɵ ɵ Ɵ ɵ Ө ө Ö ö
p P p P p П п P p
ɢ K k Q q Г г Q q
ɹ R r R r Р р R r
s S s S s С с S s
ʃ Ʒ ʒ Ş ş Ш ш Ş ş
t T t T t Т т T t
u Y y U u У у U u
y U u Y y Ү ү Ü ü
v V v V v В в V v
j J j J j Ј ј Y y
z Z z Z z З з Z z
ʒ Ƶ ƶ Ƶ ƶ Ж ж J j
ʔ ʼ ʼ ʼ ʼ
* This is the unencoded "dotless i with retroflex hook".
>Instead Peter could post a URL to his interesting Azeri alphabets which
>compares the transliteration schemes that occured in different reforms from
>Arabic to Latin then Cyrillic then agains Latin.
>
>
>
Unfortunately this table is not on line.
-- Peter Kirk peter@qaya.org (personal) peterkirk@qaya.org (work) http://www.qaya.org/
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