shaping rule? Re: proposals I wrote (and also, didn't write)

From: Peter R. Mueller-Roemer (pmr@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de)
Date: Wed Dec 08 2004 - 08:36:53 CST

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    E. Keown wrote:

    > Elaine Keown
    > Vancouver
    >
    >Dear Philippe and Lists:
    >
    >
    >
    >Hebrew code points are already in 2 blocks.
    >
    >If the UTC had done any kind of appropriate research
    >in the late 1980s, they would have made the main
    >Hebrew block larger.
    >
    >In the so-called 'deprecated' block, the 2nd Hebrew
    >block in the BMP, are composed Hebrew points which I
    >plan to go on using. And I expect everyone else to go
    >on using them also, all Hebraists. We think they are
    >needed for 'text representation' of shin and sin.
    >
    >
    In AraiUni.ttf the 1st Hebrew block works pretty well except that
    vowel-points and Hebrew accents do not combine under a consonant but the
    the accent seems to add a space, so that the single word wajalad (& (he)
    was born 8?)) looks like 2 words waja lad - ugly.
    I find it too cumbersome so keep 4 different single dots around to
    compose shin and sin with dagesh and hireq (possible in the 1st block).
    The precomposed shin, sin and others I was glad to find in the 2nd
    block, but they disappointed me because they refuse to be (pointed or)
    accented, so that I can't even copy the first verse from the bible (BHS)
    not even the first word!

    The segolat accent does not look close to the segol(at) vowel, it looks
    like a 3-dot reverse breve.

    Are there any shaping rules in Unicode that I have missed?

    Word 2002 does confusing things to the cursor when entering Latin and Hebrew
    on the same line. Outlook express and even OpenOffice do much better.

    Peter R. Mueller-Roemer

    >I asked for a 3rd block so there will be fewer core
    >blocks for Hebrew--I thought 2 blocks was already a
    >lot to have to deal with.
    >
    >I don't think it's fair to have Hebrew 'spread all
    >over the map.'
    >
    >
    >
    >>in the SMP, in a separate Hebrew-Aramaic-Mandaic
    >>Extended block (including notably some punctuations
    >>signs or old numerals, or
    >>
    >>
    >
    >Is this proposed block from a new version of the
    >Roadmap? I haven't read the Roadmap lately.
    >
    >Elaine
    >
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