Re: Orrmulum -- U+204A -- large and small ?

From: ndlogasundaram (selvindls@touchtelindia.net)
Date: Sat Aug 20 2005 - 02:32:31 CDT

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    On reference to the ligature /et./ ( both 'e' and 't' in minuscule) as a
    word / abbreviation in my
    American Heritage Dictionary CD which reveals other words connected with
    /et./ conveying same sense/meaning as /and/ .

    I quote:

    ( 1 ) et al. abbr. Latin. Et alii (and others).

    ( 2 ) et cet·er·a (µt sµt".r-., sµt"r.). Abbr. etc. 1. And other unspecified
    things of the same class; and so forth. --et·cet·er·a n. 1. A number of
    unspecified persons or things. 2. etceteras. Additional odds and ends;
    extras. [Latin : et, and + c¶tera, the rest, neuter pl. of c¶terus; see ko-
    below.]

    ( 3 ) et seq. abbr. Latin. Et sequens (and the following one or ones).

    ( 4 ) et ux. abbr. Latin. Et uxor (and wife).

    unquote

    But the same word in majuscule as / ET./ fetched

    I quote

    ET abbr. 1. Or E.T. Eastern Time. 2. Elapsed time.
     e·lapsed time (¹-l²pst") n. Abbr. ET The measured duration of an event.

    unquote 

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N. D. LogaSundaram
Chennai
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Everson" <everson@evertype.com>
To: "Unicode List" <unicode@unicode.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: Orrmulum -- U+204A -- large and small ?
> At 11:56 -0400 2005-08-19, Patrick Andries wrote:
>
> >>No, it is not a variant of &, which is an original ligature of e and t.
> >
> >Yes. "Et" means "and" (English), "en" (Dutch), "und" (German) &
> >"agus" (Irish)... ?
>
> The TIRONIAN SIGN ET is not a variant of the AMPERSAND. The AMPERSAND
> is an original ligature of the letters "e" and "t". The TIRONIAN SIGN
> ET is derived from a notational system used alongside the Latin
> alphabet, and is not a ligature of any Latin letters.
>
> On Apple's Irish Extended keyboard driver, digit 7 is on the 7 key, &
> is shift-7, and the TIRONIAN SIGN ET is shift-alt-7. Alt-7 is the
> PILCROW.
>
> >>It is used to represent the Irish word "agus", which means 'and'.
> >
> >? was used to represent "and" in Middle English as far as I know.
>
> I didn't say "exclusively". The TIRONIAN ET was used throughout
> Europe, from Portugal to Iceland.

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