Re: Orthographies using ZWNJ (was: Displaying control characters)

From: Karl Pentzlin (
Date: Mon Jul 23 2007 - 02:36:20 CDT

  • Next message: Philippe Verdy: "RE: Orthographies using ZWNJ (was: Displaying control characters)"

    Am Sonntag, 22. Juli 2007 um 20:47 schrieb Philippe Verdy:

    PV> SHY is a perfect example of an explicit syllable break.

    No. There may be a significant correlation between syllabe breaks and
    the places where SHY is applicable in several orthographies, but it is
    not 100% e.g for the pre-reform German spelling (e.g. for "Liste"
    (list) the syllabes are "Lis/te" but using SHY you had to spell

    PV> I saw this concern when replying to the message sent by Karl Pentzlin
    PV> speaking about the compound word "Schilfinsel" (i.e. "Schilf" + "Insel"
    PV> without a "fi" ligature), that he wants to encode as "Schilf<ZWNJ>insel",
    PV> where the absence of ligature is expected to really mark the internal
    PV> syllable break.

    The absence of ligature is plainly wrong at most of the syllabe breaks
    (if ligatures are used at all). E.g., "offen" (open) requires the "ff"
    ligature although the syllabe separation is of-fen. Thus, the spelling
    "of<ZWNJ>fen" would be an orthographic error (while "of<SHY>fen" would be
    (Ligatures are not to be used at the part borders of compound words,
    with some exceptions, and for some grammatical suffixes, also with some

    - Karl Pentzlin

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