Re: Obsolete characters

From: Mark Davis (mark@macchiato.com)
Date: Fri Jan 16 2009 - 10:44:35 CST

  • Next message: Peter Constable: "RE: Obsolete characters"

    The word I got a response from John Wells (who would know) that
    [ɩɷɼɿʅ-ʇʓʖʗʚʞʠʣʥʦʨ-ʯ] contains three characters that have never been IPA
    (ɿʅʯ) , and the rest are "obsolete, archaic, no longer taught to students,
    no longer in use".

    So at least in terms of official IPA usage, these would count as "archaic".
    I presume that their use has been supplanted by others, but I don't know any
    details.

    Mark

    On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:22, Andrew West <andrewcwest@gmail.com> wrote:

    > 2009/1/15 Mark Davis <mark@macchiato.com>:
    > >
    > > U+027F ( ɿ ) LATIN SMALL LETTER REVERSED R WITH FISHHOOK
    > > U+0285 ( ʅ ) LATIN SMALL LETTER SQUAT REVERSED ESH
    > > U+02A3 ( ʣ ) LATIN SMALL LETTER DZ DIGRAPH
    > > U+02A5 ( ʥ ) LATIN SMALL LETTER DZ DIGRAPH WITH CURL
    > > U+02A6 ( ʦ ) LATIN SMALL LETTER TS DIGRAPH
    > > U+02A8 ( ʨ ) LATIN SMALL LETTER TC DIGRAPH WITH CURL
    > > U+02AE ( ʮ ) LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED H WITH FISHHOOK
    > > U+02AF ( ʯ ) LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED H WITH FISHHOOK AND TAIL
    >
    > As Patrick Chew has already pointed out, these characters are
    > ubiquitous in the Sinitic tradition of IPA notation, and are certainly
    > not obsolete.
    >
    > I'm not sure about these tone letters, but I suspect that they are
    > also not obsolete:
    >
    > > U+02F9 ( ˹ ) MODIFIER LETTER BEGIN HIGH TONE
    > > U+02FA ( ˺ ) MODIFIER LETTER END HIGH TONE
    > > U+02FB ( ˻ ) MODIFIER LETTER BEGIN LOW TONE
    > > U+02FC ( ˼ ) MODIFIER LETTER END LOW TONE
    > > U+A700 ( ꜀ ) MODIFIER LETTER CHINESE TONE YIN PING
    > > U+A701 ( ꜁ ) MODIFIER LETTER CHINESE TONE YANG PING
    > > U+A702 ( ꜂ ) MODIFIER LETTER CHINESE TONE YIN SHANG
    > > U+A703 ( ꜃ ) MODIFIER LETTER CHINESE TONE YANG SHANG
    > > U+A704 ( ꜄ ) MODIFIER LETTER CHINESE TONE YIN QU
    > > U+A705 ( ꜅ ) MODIFIER LETTER CHINESE TONE YANG QU
    > > U+A706 ( ꜆ ) MODIFIER LETTER CHINESE TONE YIN RU
    > > U+A707 ( ꜇ ) MODIFIER LETTER CHINESE TONE YANG RU
    > > U+A720 ( ꜠ ) MODIFIER LETTER STRESS AND HIGH TONE
    > > U+A721 ( ꜡ ) MODIFIER LETTER STRESS AND LOW TONE
    >
    > On the other hand these Zhuang tone characters (not listed) probably
    > should be considered to be obsolete:
    >
    > U+0185 ( ƅ ) LATIN SMALL LETTER TONE SIX
    > U+01A8 ( ƨ ) LATIN SMALL LETTER TONE TWO
    > U+01BD ( ƽ ) LATIN SMALL LETTER TONE FIVE
    >
    > Andrew
    >



    This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : Fri Jan 16 2009 - 10:46:14 CST