From: Howard Gregory (keramoti@googlemail.com)
Date: Fri Jan 16 2009 - 11:20:26 CST
Maybe not in the Greek equivalent of the NY Times, but certainly in
the Greek equivalent of a passage from Shakespeare, never mind
Scripture. This is not comparable, it seems to me, to the incidence of
uses of thorn, eth and the like.
On 16/01/2009, Mark Davis <mark.edward.davis@gmail.com> wrote:
> I want to make sure that I understand your sense of 'necessary'. Clearly
> these characters are necessary for some usages, but the question is whether
> they are in customary modern usage.
>
> For example, if I picked up the Greek equivalent of the NY Times, or the
> Economist, (and so on) would I find a Ϙ or Ϡ in it, for example? Or would
> such usage be exceedingly rare, similar to the incidence of uses of archaic
> English characters for Anglo-Saxon words in such publications, like "Se
> Romanisc Senatus giefþ tō Gaius Octavius þone tītule Augustus."
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 04:15, Apostolos Syropoulos
> <ijdt.editor@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> 2009/1/15 Mark E. Shoulson <mark@kli.org>
>>
>>> Mark Davis wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> U+03D8 <http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=03D8> ( Ϙ ) GREEK
>>> LETTER ARCHAIC KOPPA
>>> U+03D9 <http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=03D9> ( ϙ ) GREEK
>>> SMALL LETTER ARCHAIC KOPPA
>>> U+03DA <http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=03DA> ( Ϛ ) GREEK
>>> LETTER STIGMA
>>> U+03DB <http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=03DB> ( ϛ ) GREEK
>>> SMALL LETTER STIGMA
>>> U+03DC <http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=03DC> ( Ϝ ) GREEK
>>> LETTER DIGAMMA
>>> U+03DD <http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=03DD> ( ϝ ) GREEK
>>> SMALL LETTER DIGAMMA
>>> U+03DE <http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=03DE> ( Ϟ ) GREEK
>>> LETTER KOPPA
>>> U+03DF <http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=03DF> ( ϟ ) GREEK
>>> SMALL LETTER KOPPA
>>> U+03E0 <http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=03E0> ( Ϡ ) GREEK
>>> LETTER SAMPI
>>> U+03E1 <http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=03E1> ( ϡ ) GREEK
>>> SMALL LETTER SAMPI
>>>
>>> Aren't (some of) these still in common use in Greece for representing
>>> numbers?
>>>
>>
>> I am Greek and I can assure you that all these symbols are necessary. The
>> following
>> symbols are not really necesary:
>>
>> U+03D0 <http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=03D0> ( ϐ ) GREEK
>> BETA SYMBOL
>> U+03D1 <http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=03D1> ( ϑ ) GREEK
>> THETA SYMBOL
>> U+03D5 <http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=03D5> ( ϕ ) GREEK
>> PHI SYMBOL
>>
>> They are typographic variants, but the following two are not just
>> typographic variants,
>> thus, they are needed:
>>
>> U+03D6 <http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=03D6> ( ϖ ) GREEK
>> PI SYMBOL
>> U+03D7 <http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=03D7> ( ϗ ) GREEK
>> KAI SYMBOL
>>
>> A.S.
>>
>> --
>> Apostolos Syropoulos
>> 366, 28th October Str.
>> GR-671 00 Xanthi, GREECE
>> Web-page at
>> http://obelix.ee.duth.gr/~apostolo
>> Blogs at http://asyropoulos.wordpress.com/
>> http://hypercomputation.blogspot.com/
>>
>
-- H.A.O.Gregory Department of English Linguistics Kaete-Hamburger-Weg 3 37073 Göttingen http://www.gwdg.de/~hgregor1/ -- H.A.O.Gregory Department of English Linguistics Kaete-Hamburger-Weg 3 37073 Göttingen http://www.gwdg.de/~hgregor1/
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