Re: Latin Script

From: Mark Davis ☕ (mark@macchiato.com)
Date: Mon Jun 07 2010 - 23:26:43 CDT

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    For definitions, there are many references. For Unicode characters, the
    Standard defines a property in http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr24/ and
    http://unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/Scripts.txt. Here is the current list:

    http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/list-unicodeset.jsp?a=\p{sc%3DLatn}

    Mark

    — Il meglio è l’inimico del bene —

    On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 20:39, Tulasi <tulasird@gmail.com> wrote:

    > Jony -> A B C D E F G H I K L M N O P Q R S T V X Y Z
    > ?
    >
    > You mean ALL CAPS again like UNICODE :)
    >
    > Van -> Do you mean historically or pragmatically?
    >
    > Actually something that will include all letters/symbols now
    > considered Latin-script
    >
    > Otto Stolz -> Not exactly a definition: What the Unicode standard says
    > on this issue, is here:
    >
    > There might be someone who already defined Latin script!
    > Europeans have produced lot of scholars.
    >
    > Tulasi
    >
    >
    > From: Jonathan Rosenne <jr@qsm.co.il>
    > Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:05:11 +0300
    > Subject: RE: Latin Script
    > To: unicode@unicode.org
    >
    > How about
    >
    > A B C D E F G H I K L M N O P Q R S T V X Y Z
    >
    > ?
    >
    > There are also some extensions, see
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_alphabet for general background.
    >
    > Jony
    >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: unicode-bounce@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bounce@unicode.org] On
    > > Behalf Of Tulasi
    > > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 11:27 AM
    > > To: unicode@unicode.org
    > > Subject: Latin Script
    > >
    > > How do you define Latin Script?
    >
    >
    > From: vanisaac@boil.afraid.org
    > Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 12:18:29 -0700
    > Subject: Re: Latin Script
    > To: tulasird@gmail.com, unicode@unicode.org
    >
    > From: Tulasi (tulasird@gmail.com)
    > > How do you define Latin Script?
    >
    > Do you mean historically or pragmatically? Historically, it is an
    > adaptation of the Ionian Greek (or is it Doric?), via Etruscan, for
    > the purpose of writing Latin, and later extended by the addition of
    > alternate letterforms (J, W, Þ, and the lower case) and diacritics to
    > the use of western European languages and globally to indigenous
    > languages in primary contact with western European languages that use
    > the Latin alphabet.
    >
    > Pragmatically, it is the collection of characters that are used in
    > languages in conjunction with the primary collection of Roman derived
    > letterforms as an alphabetic script. This means that the syllabic
    > Fraser Lisu is not Latin script. Neither is Cyrillic, even though it
    > has imported Dze and Je - the basic Latin alphabet does not constitute
    > the core of Cyrillic usage.
    >
    > Typographic tradition also plays a part - Greek would probably be a
    > lot more ambiguous if it hadn't developed typographically among
    > Byzantine scribes. Latin typography developed primarily among
    > post-Roman and Carolignian scribal traditions, with offshoot
    > blackletter and Italic scribal traditions that have secondary status
    > in the modern script. Greek and Cyrillic don't share this history, and
    > as such, even though they are structurally similar, they have evolved
    > along different lines and constitute distinct scripts. The fact that
    > you don't find languages that mix the two up is evidence of these
    > schizms. The border languages choose one or the other, or they have
    > two different orthographies that use each script independently of the
    > other.
    >
    > Van
    >
    >
    > From: Otto Stolz <Otto.Stolz@uni-konstanz.de>
    > Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:50:23 +0200
    > Subject: Re: Latin Script
    > To: Tulasi <tulasird@gmail.com>
    > Cc: unicode@unicode.org
    >
    > Am 2010-06-06 10:26, schrieb Tulasi:
    > > How do you define Latin Script?
    >
    > Not exactly a definition: What the Unicode standard
    > says on this issue, is here:
    > 7.1 Latin
    > <http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.2.0/ch07.pdf#G4321>
    >
    > And a few words, e. g. “well-known”, are also here:
    > 6.1 Writing Systems
    > <http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.2.0/ch06.pdf#G7382>
    >
    >
    > Best wishes,
    > Otto Stolz
    >
    >
    >



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