Re: Latin Script

From: Tulasi (tulasird@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jun 20 2010 - 15:22:41 CDT

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    Asmus -> ISO/IEC what?
    Should be 8859-1 8859-2

    So letters/symbols found in ISO/IEC 8859-1 ISO/IEC 8859-2 are
    identical to corresponding letters/symbols in Unicode.
    Moreover, the code-numbers as well as names for letters/symbols used
    for ISO/IEC 8859-1 ISO/IEC 8859-2 are also identical in corresponding
    Unicode.

    Am I correct on above?

    The link is useful Otto, thanks!
    And John, my platform is WinXp from Versionsoft :) and I use Firefox.

    Tulasi

    From: Asmus Freytag <asmusf@ix.netcom.com>
    Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:07:41 -0700
    Subject: Re: Latin Script
    To: Tulasi <tulasird@gmail.com>
    Cc: Kenneth Whistler <kenw@sybase.com>, unicode@unicode.org

    On 6/17/2010 7:24 PM, Tulasi wrote:
    > What is equivalent ISO/IEC
    ISO/IEC what?

    There are hundreds of ISO/IEC standards, of which dozens are character
    encoding standards.
    > for "U+0278 LATIN SMALL LETTER PHI (ɸ)"?
    > Or do Unicode & ISO/IEC use different number & name for same letter/symbol?
    >

    ISO/IEC 10646 uses the same number and name as Unicode for this.

    A./
    >

    From: Otto Stolz <Otto.Stolz@uni-konstanz.de>
    Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:41:49 +0200
    Subject: Re: Latin Script
    To: Tulasi <tulasird@gmail.com>
    Cc: unicode@unicode.org

    Hello Tulasi,

    on 2010-06-18 04:24, you have asked:
    > Or do Unicode & ISO/IEC use different number & name for same letter/symbol?

    You might find enlightening the FAQ on “Unicode and ISO 10646”
    <http://www.unicode.org/faq/unicode_iso.html>.

    Best wishes,
       Otto Stolz

    From: John Dlugosz <JDlugosz@tradestation.com>
    Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:00:25 -0400
    Subject: RE: Latin Script
    To: Tulasi <tulasird@gmail.com>
    Cc: "vanisaac@boil.afraid.org" <vanisaac@boil.afraid.org>, Edward
    Cherlin <echerlin@gmail.com>, "unicode@unicode.org"
    <unicode@unicode.org>, Mark Davis ☕ <mark@macchiato.com>, Otto Stolz
    <Otto.Stolz@uni-konstanz.de>, Jonathan Rosenne <jr@qsm.co.il>,
    "asmusf@ix.netcom.com" <asmusf@ix.netcom.com>

    >
    > John -> If I define a symbol (variable or constant) named ɸ and some
    > user types 'φ' or 'ϕ' instead, it won't match.
    >
    > Can you please post the names for the other two, i.e., 'φ' or 'ϕ' ?
    >
    > John -> That's why we have Latin-1, Latin-2, etc.

    I used glyph only without other information to emphasize the point.
    What platform are you on? If reading in a web app under Firefox, use
    the "Identify Characters" extension. If using Windows, SC Unipad is a
    good program you can use to paste into and see the makeup in detail.

    --John

    From: Kenneth Whistler <kenw@sybase.com>
    Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:31:11 -0700 (PDT)
    Subject: Re: Latin Script
    To: tulasird@gmail.com
    Cc: unicode@unicode.org

    > John -> If I define a symbol (variable or constant) named ɸ and some
    > user types 'φ' or 'ϕ' instead, it won't match.
    >
    > Can you please post the names for the other two, i.e., 'φ' or 'ϕ' ?
    - Hide quoted text -

    John was referring to:

    U+0278 LATIN SMALL LETTER PHI
    U+03C6 GREEK SMALL LETTER PHI
    U+03D5 GREEK PHI SYMBOL

    > John -> That's why we have Latin-1, Latin-2, etc.
    >
    > It looks like Latin-1 Latin-2 etc are sub sets of Latin, probably
    > created by programmers/coders. Have I guessed correctly A./ ? :)

    No. John is referring to:

    ISO/IEC 8859-1, Latin alphabet No. 1
    ISO/IEC 8859-2, Latin alphabet No. 2

    Those are different 8-bit character encodings, with different
    collections of Latin letters included. They were intended
    to cover the character encoding needs for different sets
    of languages, with Latin-1 aimed primarily at Western
    European languages and Latin-2 aimed primarily at Eastern
    European languages (with Latin orthographies).

    Both of those 8-bit character encodings include many
    punctuation and symbol characters other than just Latin
    letters, so they aren't really subsets of the Latin
    script at all.

    --Ken



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