Re: Unihan number types and values

From: Arne Goetje (arne@linux.org.tw)
Date: Thu Dec 02 2010 - 20:20:45 CST

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    On 12/03/2010 08:53 AM, Kenneth Whistler wrote:
    >
    >> Right, but older Chinese texts and tables don't use the Arabic numerals
    >> used nowadays.
    >
    > Well, they use all kinds of numeric stuff.
    >
    > I'm looking at an old(ish) Chinese encyclopedia -- 20th century, but
    > old fashioned enough that it is set vertically and all the
    > entries are in *classical* Chinese, not vernacular. Full of numbers,
    > of course, but almost all of them use the traditional Chinese
    > style:
    >
    > 6 + 10 + 3 = 63 (liu-shi-san) (cf. English "six-ty-three" hehe)

    Still used, at least in Taiwan. Many announcements and official
    documents use this style.

    > But if you dig around, you find various numerical oddities. Historical
    > date lists introduce the characters U+5EFF nian4 for "20"
    > (which also has variants U+5344 and U+3039) and
    > U+5345 sa4 for "30", so the days of months get listed:

    Still used in Taiwan for the lunar calendar, which is printed on every
    better calendar here. Simply for space saving, I guess (2 characters
    instead of 3).

    > 10 + 8
    > 10 + 9 (shi-jiu)
    > 20 (nian)
    > 20 + 1 (nian-yi)
    > ...
    > 30
    > 30 + 1 (sa-yi)
    >
    > which is another non-decimal-radix system, and which also differs from
    > the traditional numerical construction for ordinary numbers.

    Please note, that for financial stuff (bank forms, contracts, etc.) we
    need to use a whole different set of characters:

    零 壹 貳 參 肆 伍 陸 柒 捌 玖 (0-9)
    拾 (10), 佰 (100), 仟 (1000), 萬 (10,000), 億 (100,000,000)

    Also, the month of January is commonly depicted as 圓月 here.

    And the use of full-width decimals is very common in running text and
    addresses.

    Just my 2 NT$.

    Cheers
    Arne

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