Re: Sorting and German (was: Sorting and Volapük)

Sounds like Michael could use the Austrian system.

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Otto Stolz <Otto.Stolz_at_uni-konstanz.de> wrote:
> Happy New Year,
>
> on Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:27 PM,
> Michael Everson<everson_at_evertype.com> wrote: > Volapük sorts [...] ä a
> separate letter after a, ö separate after o,
>>
>> and ü separate after u.
>> does anyone know if any other language treats ä/ö/ü in the same way?
>
>
> Am 2012-01-01 16:54, schrieb Peter Cyrus:
>>
>> German does both,
>
>
> Not really.
>
> According to DIN 5007,
> German features two different sort orders:
> • In lists of personal names, Ä, Ö, Ü may be sorted
>  as AE, OE, and UE, respectively; this order is
>  mainly used in telefone directories.
> • In dictionaries and encyclopedias, Ä, Ö, Ü are sorted
>  as A, O, and U, respectively.
>
> As encyclopedias may well comprise personal names,
> the scope of the  former scheme is not well defined,
> imho, and I stick to the latter one, whenever I have
> to sort a list.
>
> In both schemes, ß is sorted as SS.
>
> In both schemes, true A (or AE, respectively) goes before Ä,
> iff two sort keys are otherwise identical; likewise for
> Ö, Ü, and ß.
>
> In Austria, a third scheme is used in telefone directories
> (but not in the yellow pages): Here, Ä, Ö, and Ü, are
> indeed treated as distinct letters, to go between A and B,
> O and P, and U and V, respectively; and ß is treated as a
> distinct pair of letters, ro go between SS and ST.
>
> Best wishes,
>  Otto Stolz
>
>
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