Re: Upside Down Fu character

From: John H. Jenkins <jenkins_at_apple.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:24:19 -0700

Hanzi have a slightly different way of getting into the standard because it's all done through the IRG, which receives submissions from each member body. Submissions from the UTC start by being added to UTR #45. That, however, is merely a database to track potential characters we're aware of. It doesn't mean that the UTC plans to request their encoding. Characters generally start out with a status of X, meaning that no decision has been made.

From everything I've seen so far, my own recommendation would be that the upside-down fu, at least, be given status W (meaning "inappropriate for encoding"). If anybody wants to advocate encoding it, they need to write a document and submit it to the UTC. They would need to either provide evidence of actual use as a text element in plain-text (not as a graphic embedded in plain text—the emoji were a special case), or that it would be "widely" used as such (given a reasonable definition of "widely"). The UTC might well respond by asking for more information. The current submission form is certainly a good template for providing information in a requested hanzi.

Assuming the UTC approves a status of "N" (to be encoded), the character would be included in the UTC's submission to the IRG for Extension F. Work on Extension F will likely start in 2013.

Andre Schappo 於 2012年1月13日 上午8:36 寫道:

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> On 12 Jan 2012, at 16:54, John H. Jenkins wrote:
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>> Kang-Hao (Kenny) Lu 於 2012年1月12日 上午12:13 寫道:
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>>> * Three folks think this is rather unnecessary (including me). Some
>>> people go more and say "What about a code point for XXX and YYY?"
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>> Do they have specific XXXs and YYYs in mind?
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>> In general, the process is outlined at http://www.unicode.org/pending/proposals.html. For hanzi, the characters need to be added to UTR #45 first, but I'm going to propose that for both the upside-down fuk1—er, fu, and the upside-down chun, since they have been discussed. UTR #45 lets us track such discussions.
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>> =====
>> 井作恆
>> John H. Jenkins
>> jenkins_at_apple.com
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> I have received a request for an upside-down 钱 (=qián = money = U+94B1).
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> I have talked with a small number of Chinese students about having an upside-down fu character and they were all enthusiastic. I will be talking with more Chinese students next week which is when the new term starts.
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> John: As you are progressing upside-down fu and chun characters into UTR #45 does this mean that I no longer need to submit a "Proposal Summary Form" for upside-down fu? I have not yet actually started on said form.
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> André 小山 Schappo
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