Re: Adding RAINBOW FLAG to Unicode

From: Peter Edberg <pedberg_at_apple.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:48:22 -0700

Philippe and others,
You are missing the relevant parts of UTR #51. See:
http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/#Multi_Person_Groupings <http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/#Multi_Person_Groupings>
http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/#ZWJ_Sequences <http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/#ZWJ_Sequences>

This type of behavior with ZWJ for emoji is already in use.

- Peter E

> On Jun 27, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p_at_wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
> This UTR just addresses the case of a combining coloring symbol for faces and those color symbols were designed since the begining to be combined as much as possible (and not meant to be used in isolation), this is not the case of the rainbow symbol which is much more figurative).
>
> Why would associating a flag and a rainbow this way means the flag will just be recolored (but the rainbox form itself is completely lost)?
> Couldn't this be to display a flying flag over a sky with a rainbow? Compare this to the association of the sun and the rainbow symbols, or the cloud and a rainbow (and compare to the sun or moon and a cloud associated the same way, or the association of two clouds: none of them will overlap completely).
>
> Imagine the use in a weather application, I don't wee why the rainbox would disappear when the flying flag is just there to mean the windy condition, and the rainbox meant for variable weather mixing rainy and sunny periods.
>
> Your proposed use of ZWJ to create a complete overlap of one symbol into another is unexpected.
>
> ZWJ+symbol does not transfor that symbol into a "emoi modifier" (this is not anywhere in UTF51). It may just create a small partial overlap of one symbol into the other, but each one is still clearly identifiable separately. The examples shown are for grouping multiple persons in Annex E but each person is still separately visible and recognizable as such even if they are combined in the same final glyph. Annexe E even requires some specific orders (e.g. for families: the man can only come before a woman, and is then necessarily visible to the left side of the icon, i.e. to the right of the woman; children are necessarily after and below adults...).
>
>
> 2015-06-27 21:31 GMT+02:00 Mark Davis ☕️ <mark_at_macchiato.com <mailto:mark_at_macchiato.com>>:
> Take a look at http://unicode.org/reports/tr51/ <http://unicode.org/reports/tr51/> for details.
>
Received on Sat Jun 27 2015 - 16:49:22 CDT

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.2.0 : Sat Jun 27 2015 - 16:49:22 CDT