Re: Re: Adding half-star to Unicode?

From: Philippe Verdy <verdy_p_at_wanadoo.fr>
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 19:10:06 +0200

My bet is that they'll prefer using whatever code they want, hacking fonts
as necessary to overtake another political symbol when they'll want. They
could do that easily with Webfonts today (by designing a tiny webfont with
just one glyph mapped to any code point, including some ASCII symbol such
as the DOLLAR sign). They would even refuse any normalization and would not
even use the codepoint proposed for them, or by remapping some ASCII-art
string (the classic emoticons of Usenet; if we even attempt to define
standard colors, or glyph design, they'll invent another incompatible
design, will change colors, will rotate it, will change it into an
exploding star...). However the historic anarchists symbol that was seen on
walls and painted banners in Europe in the 19th and early 20th century was
only black.

And it was not really a star, but derived from the A letter in a circle,
with the horizontal bar frequently replaced by some fire arm, or slnated
and looking more like a thin arrow head slightly pointing upward (Various
decorations could be added on top: a striker throwing a mollotov... or
flowers; a plus sign; a "V" on top to mean "victory"). The strokes were
most often very irregular, as if they were brushed very rapidly on a wall.
More polished forms have been used where it is a standard A in an circle
open at the bottom and a small curved leg. Not all of them want flags with
colors. Other groups just use a red-filled standard 5-pointed star, over a
plain black background.

In London still today, there's most often no star, just a red and black
flag (color cut on the diagonal). The red side or black side may be
attached on the hanging stem, but generally a black side is below the right
side. The red color varies also (green, dark purple, pink, orange,
white...) but the black color is seems to be always there (even if it's
just the classic circle A, that black may be used to fill the glyph, or the
background. There's no dedicated support, the symbols may be used
everywhere, integrated in all sort of graphics, made with various materials.

The flag may be raised in all positions. In Australia, this is a vertical
rainbow over a black area.

Other symbols of anarchism include a closed hand (fist) raised upward (in a
sign of protest) with a venom snake. The anarchist movements have always
been inventive and protecting against all sort of political regimes,
democartic or not, in fact they protest against all forms of state
government, and their official symbols.

2016-06-24 17:55 GMT+02:00 Garth Wallace <gwalla_at_gmail.com>:

> But would anarchists even want their symbol to be encoded?
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:04 AM, "Jörg Knappen" <jknappen_at_web.de> wrote:
>
>> Talking about fancy five stars, besides the vertically split ones there
>> is the "Anarchist star" (a symbol for anarcho-syndicalism)
>> with a diagonal split in a upper left red half and a lower left black
>> half. Since there are political and ideological symbols encoded
>> in UNicode, maybe this one is worth encoding as well (probably twice,
>> once as a black and white plain symbol and once as a colourful Emoji).
>>
>> See here:
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Anarcho-Syndicalism#/media/File:Anarchist_star.svg
>>
>> FIVE PIONTED STAR WITH BLACK LOWER RIGHT HALF = anarchist star
>> ANARCHIST STAR EMOJI
>>
>> --Jörg Knappen
>>
>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 24. Juni 2016 um 14:12 Uhr
>> *Von:* "Frédéric Grosshans" <frederic.grosshans_at_gmail.com>
>> *An:* unicode_at_unicode.org
>> *Betreff:* Re: Adding half-star to Unicode?
>> Le 24/06/2016 00:37, Leo Broukhis a écrit :
>> > For a previous discussion on the topic, please see
>> > the thread "Missing geometric shapes" around 11/12/12
>> The thread starts here :
>> http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2012-m11/0008.html
>>
>> It contains an example of half-filled star used in RTL (Hebrew) context,
>> in an advertisement in Haaretz here
>> http://www.unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2012-m11/0024.html
>>
>>
>>
>
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