Dark beer emoji

Philippe Verdy verdy_p at wanadoo.fr
Wed Sep 2 03:12:24 CDT 2015

now it's time to create varuations for coffea cups,  ice creams,  more
cakes,  various forms of burgers, roasted meats,  sausages,
chickens/turkeys, and eggs, breads... we've put the finger into an
infinitely deep hole of images. the initial emojis were used express
essential feelings used in interpersonal communication, niw we see attempts
to use them to sell various branded products which are not even
intercultural.  do we need tem in plain text, hen their representation will
be top poor to to show their uniqueness.  images transported separateky are
better.  otherwise we'll use text to give real names, brands and product
descriptions and characteristics. i do like the proliferation of emojis for
priducrs that will fall out of use or that are too much protected and not
for general sales. i don't like exclusive claims of authorship that come
with those proposals.
Le 1 sept. 2015 23:10, "Steve Swales" <steve at swales.us> a écrit :

> Personally, I love this idea, and would like to claim first authorship
> ��.  Here’s a snippet from the email I sent to my old colleagues at Apple
> back on April 15th (not the 1st):
> > Hi, Apple iOS/Keyboard/Design//I18n folks,
> >
> > Just wanted to say, nice work on the new Emoji keyboard design and
> expanded repertoire.   I desperately wish the skin tone modifiers would
> work on the beer emoji, however.    Need my porter and stout.  Maybe next
> update?  For old times' sake?  �� .
> >
> -steve
> > On Sep 1, 2015, at 9:37 AM, Doug Ewell <doug at ewellic.org> wrote:
> >
> > Document L2/15-211, "Letter in support of dark beer emoji"
> > <http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2015/15221-cerveza-indio-letter.pdf>, is a
> > request submitted by Cuauhtémoc Moctezuma, a Mexican brewery.
> >
> > The letter refers to a petition with more than 22,000 signatures
> > supporting such an emoji, and may have at least some commercial
> > motivation ("We want the dark beer to be part of peoples
> > conversations").
> >
> > As an alternative to this proposal that may provide more flexibility, I
> > propose adapting the Fitzpatrick skin-tone modifiers from U+1F3FB to
> > U+1F3FF to be valid for use following U+1F37A BEER MUG or U+1F37B
> >
> > This could be done by establishing a normative correlation between the
> > Fitzpatrick scale and the Standard Reference Method (SRM), Lovibond,
> > and/or European Brewery Convention (EBC) beer color scales
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_style#Appearance>.
> >
> > This mechanism would allow the entire spectrum of beer styles to be
> > depicted, instead of dividing beers arbitrarily into "light" and "dark,"
> > in the same way (and for the same reason) that Unicode already supports
> > a variety of skin tones.
> >
> > For example, a Budweiser or similar lager could be represented as
> > ���� <1F37A, 1F3FB>, while a Newcastle Brown Ale might be ����
> > <1F37A, 1F3FD>. U+1F3FF could denote imperial stout or Baltic porter.
> > There might be a need to encode an additional "Type 0" color modifier to
> > extend the "light" end of the scale, such as for non-alcoholic brews, or
> > for Coors Light.
> >
> > U+1F37B could be used to denote two beers of the same style, but for
> > beers of different colors, the mechanism described in UTR #51, Section
> > 2.2.1 ("Multi-Person Groupings"), involving ZWJ, could be utilized. So a
> > toast between drinkers of the two beers above could be encoded as
> > ����‍���� <1F37A, 1F3FB, 200D, 1F37A, 1F3FD>. Longer sequences
> > would also be possible, such as for beer samplers offered in some pubs
> > and restaurants.
> >
> > I have no idea whether my proposal is more or less serious, or more or
> > less likely to be adopted, than the original.
> >
> > --
> > Doug Ewell | http://ewellic.org | Thornton, CO ����
> >
> >
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