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Date/Time: Tue Feb 24 13:13:53 CST 2015
Name: Alex Hong
Report Type: Feedback on an Encoding Proposal
Opt Subject: Emoji modifiers default skin/hair feedback
The recommendation to use yellow as a generic skin tone (because it's "non- realistic") combined with the recommendation to use a dark generic hair color (because it's the most universal) often leads to a default option that is misinterpreted to be a yellowface caricature of East Asians, which is reinforced by the fact that none of the other 5 proposed options looks particularly East Asian. Suggested fix: - Recommend a "non-realistic" generic hair color instead, like bright blue (e.g. Facebook's Hacker Boy sticker set). This would also remove the inconsistency in reasoning for default skin tone vs. hair color. - Add a new option (or change one of the other 5 options) to have a realistic (subtle) yellow tint in order to better represent East Asians. Thanks for your time and consideration.
Date/Time: Sun Mar 22 09:56:31 CDT 2015
Name: Joseph Anania
Report Type: Error Report
Opt Subject: Emoji Character removals UTR #51
> > suggestions to remove the helm symbol ⎈ and the man in business suit > > levitating 🕴. (UTR #51) I want to strongly discourage any removals as it breaks compatibility and causes more problems and solve no issues. Secondly the helm can be used and is used as a Buddhist symbol and thus with the recommendation of pairing place of worship U+1F6D0 with the religious symbol would allow Buddhists to identify or display Buddhist places of worship. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharmacakra > > PLACE OF WORSHIP is both intended for stand-alone use, but also for use in > > sequences with a religious symbol to indicate a particular type, such as > > 🛐🕉. (UTR #51) You undermined the place of worship proposal by removing a religious symbol. Unicode has received criticism as of late claiming lack of diversity, removing the helm symbol will just add more ammunition to these claims. > > These encoding systems also conflict with one another. That is, two > > encodings can use the same number for two different characters, or use > > different numbers for the same character. Any given computer (especially > > servers) needs to support many different encodings; yet whenever data is > > passed between different encodings or platforms, that data always runs the > > risk of corruption. Unicode is changing all that! > > (http://www.unicode.org/standard/WhatIsUnicode.html) Secondly the business man levitating has been used as an emoji representation of the exclamation mark. It will break existing uses and cause issues going forward. The time to exclude symbols are before they are included and the standard is published. Having incompatibilities between versions makes a mess of the standard and having incompatible Unicode fonts, is an even bigger problem. Symbola all ready has the levitating business man, it has been used and removing it will not solve a problem it is safer just to leave it be. By removing any characters you undermined the very purpose and mission of Unicode, to remove incompatibilities in encoding. You do not achieve that by introducing incompatibilities between versions. You can add new characters but removing them does cause problems and should be strongly avoided. Thank you for reading my feedback, I hope you will not remove any characters and keep future versions compatible.
Date/Time: Tue Mar 31 19:07:40 CDT 2015
Name: Lucas Welti
Report Type: Feedback on an Encoding Proposal
Opt Subject: Unicode Emoji
The Taco Emoji: http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/tr51-2.html#1F32E does not reflect a real taco, the emoji that you display in the Draft represents what the USA "thinks" it is a taco or to be more specific what Taco Bell uses to represent a taco. The next image is what mostly represents a real taco: http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/04/3a/0c/26/carne-asada-tacos.jpg Maybe creating an Emoji won't be easy but it is better not to create something that does not represent the real taco. Feel free to contact me directly, in case you need assistance.
Date/Time: Fri Apr 3 10:13:32 CDT 2015
Name: Emma Kelly
Report Type: Feedback on an Encoding Proposal
Opt Subject: Diversify petition to include redhead emoji
Note: This has already been remanded to the Emoji Subcommittee
Dear Unicode Consortium, I am the Founder of Ginger Parrot (www.gingerparrot.co.uk), a website for redheads that reports on 'all things nice and gingerful', receiving more than 100,000 unique visitors per month. When we heard about the new set of emojis to be released in the new Apple iOS 8.3 update, we jumped for joy, as we are yet to experience emoticon characters with red hair on Apple products. However, we were left disappointed as we noted that despite 300 new characters being added, redheads were totally ignored. It's true that redheads are rare at less than 2% of the world's population, but 'diversifying' emojis should at least give us a few symbols to call our own. Nowadays, more and more redheads are revealing their ginger pride, and more and more people are dyeing their hair red, too. Which is why we decided to set up a petition to gather like-minded and like- headed people to express their interest in the creation of ginger emoji characters. In addition to worldwide press coverage on the petition from the likes of the Guardian, Business Insider and CNET, the petition has collected over 6,000 signatures so far. We're desperate for redheads to be recognised and represented on the list of Unicode characters, and we don't believe that we should be ignored. Petition link: https://www.change.org/p/apple-redheads-should-have-emoji-too If possible, we would like to know what the Unicode Consortium's position is on this subject please. It would be fantastic if we could get redhead versions of emojis that already exist with blonde, brunette and black hair, as it's not fair to miss out redheads. A few people believe that there is a vaguely redhead version already included on Apple products, but this is incorrect - orange is the colour that gingers relate to, and there's no reason why we shouldn't be represented. Redheads are often marginalised for being different from the rest, but we believe (along with our followers and many more) that ginger hair is a rare and beautiful thing to behold, and should be something that people are proud of. Many thanks for your time, and I look forward to your reply. Yours gingerfully, Emma Kelly www.gingerparrot.co.uk
Date/Time: Tue Apr 7 18:16:49 CDT 2015
Name: Peter Mawhorter
Report Type: Feedback on an Encoding Proposal
Opt Subject: Re: Characters Subject to Emoji Modifiers
UTR #51 at http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/ asks for feedback on which characters should be subject to Emoji modifiers. I'd like to register disagreement with the idea of excluding all emoji which contain multiple people (such as those listed below) from modifier applicability. The report argues that since there's no way to individually color different parts of these icons, we should be stuck with a generic icon that we can supplement with individual tinted emoji to indicate specific skin tones. I'm fimrly of the opinion that being able to color these emoji as a unit is better than not being able to color them at all, and in particular, that emoji like U+1f48f "kiss" or U+1f491 "couple with heart" are often used to represent ideas of love or companionship rather than a literal group of people. An obvious use-case for the proposed new specification would be to have a setting for a device for "default emoji skin tone" and have the device add combining characters when a users types emoji that they're applicable to. In such a use-case, the inability of emoji like U+1f48 "kiss" to be tinted would clash with the tinting of emoji like U+1f609 "winking face" when used side-by- side, e.g., "I love you 😉🏾💏🏾." or "I'm sorry you're sick 👫🏽😢🏽." While not being able to separately tint the different people in group emoji is an unfortunate technical limitation, it's entirely an understandable one. But it shouldn't prevent users from tinting the whole group to a skin tone that they're most comfortable with. Finally, I'd like to say that I'm glad we're getting a range of skin tones in Unicode 8! P.S. In my example above I wanted to use a "hug" emoji for the being sick example, but was dissapointed that there isn't one. Unicode 9 perhaps? :P
Date/Time: Mon Apr 6 21:45:46 CDT 2015
Name: Eric Andrew Lewis
Report Type: Feedback on an Encoding Proposal
Opt Subject: Feedback on WHITE SMILING FACE's default display
I would like to see WHITE SMILING FACE's default to "emoji" display. It is odd to me that in many emoji contexts, this most primal emoji is missing because it is left out by the application or displayed as "text". Also, I'd like to see a recommendation against adding blush into this character's emoji display - I saw a representation with blush in http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/StandardizedVariants.html. Blush clouds the emotional intention of this character, which should be adequately represented with a smile. Thank you!
Date/Time: Fri Apr 10 22:06:19 CDT 2015
Name: Anton J. Doss
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: Enable Customization of Multi-character Emojis
Currently the only character emojis that are non-customizable are the multi- character ones (families, relationships, love). It would be great to be able to represent diversity within families, relationships, and love as well. The new updates are great and a step in the right direction of allowing everyone the chance to see themselves represented.
Date/Time: Thu Apr 23 01:11:16 CDT 2015
Name: William Lipa
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: Family emoji modifiers (UTR #51)
It makes me sad that the family emoji no longer supports a human looking skin tone. I grew quite attached to the previous representation. Instead, the emoji now has an unfortunate yellow Simpsons appearance which makes it almost embarrassing to use. The TR states: 'In particular, we removed the "groupings", like FAMILY #1f46a, presuming that they should always have a generic appearance, and then be followed by the human images for the family, if desired.' The rationale for the presumption is not stated, and I am at a loss for what it might be, except possibly the can of worms of mixed race families. I also cannot understand what the statement about "...then be followed by the human images for the family" means. I am personally a member of a mixed race family. I would far rather be able to approximate my family with a human appearing average skin tone than be forced to use the Simpsons cartoon appearance. Thank you for your consideration.
Date/Time: Sat Apr 25 05:26:28 CDT 2015
Name: William Overington
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: A contribution to Public Review 293, regarding Draft Unicode Technical Report #51, Unicode Emoji
A contribution to Public Review 293, regarding Draft Unicode Technical Report #51, Unicode Emoji In the draft dated 2015-03-25, in section 7 there is the following. quote TTS names are also outside the current scope of this document. end quote I opine that it would be helpful to include some more information on this topic, either in UTR #51 or in another document. Please consider the situation of some person or organization wishing to produce a text to speech system and wishing to do so as interoperably as possible. In the absence of guidance, a proprietary system of some sort is likely to arise. Action now to publish guidance on some sort of standardized interoperable system would be helpful and minimize interoperability problems in the future. I refer to my comments of 28 July 2014 that are shown in the following document. http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2014/14179-pubrev.html It seems to me that The Unicode Technical Committee is almost there as regards encoding localizable sentences as emoji-like characters. For example, GOOD DAY. and BEST REGARDS, could be a good start. It just needs renaming of TTS name as Localization Label and inviting petitions as to what localizable sentences to encode together with a design for the abstract, or semi-abstract, emoji symbol for each such localizable sentence. It would be good if the Unicode Technical Committee invited art and printed out the images received and displayed them at the The Internationalization and Unicode® Conference IUC 39 in October 2015. William Overington 25 April 2015
Date/Time: Thu Apr 30 09:36:01 CDT 2015
Name: Jeremy Burge
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: Feedback on PRI #293
Top Emoji Requests to Emojipedia in 2015 Excluding: • Unicode 7 emoji • Unicode 8 emoji • Commercial logos and brands ————— Faces • Fingers Crossed • Eye Roll • Hug • Face Palm • Vomit ————— Diversity • Red Hair • Lots of requests for this • Skin Tone Modifiers for families, couples • Single parent families (primarily requested from single mothers with one or two children) ————— Animals • Giraffe • Owl ————— Activity • Baseball • Drum kit / Drummer ————— Transport • Scooter (presumed motorised, but not specified) • Motorbike (not the racing motorbike from Unicode 7.0) ————— Flags • England • Northern Ireland • Scotland • Wales • EU • Wikipedia ref — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1 The ISO 3166/MA may reserve code elements for other entities that do not qualify for inclusion based on the above criteria.[8] For example, because the European Union is not a country, it is not formally included in ISO 3166-1, but for practical reasons, the ISO 3166/MA has "reserved the two-letter combination EU for the purpose of identifying the European Union within the framework of ISO 3166-1". • Kosovo: • Via email to Emojipedia — I’m sure someone on staff is already working on it , however from the list of flag emojis from around the world I noticed that the Republic of Kosovo's flag seems to be missing. It has been an independent nation since February 17, 2008. This can be verified in the link below http://www.beinkosovo.com/en/about-kosovo • Wikipedia ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2 — The code XK is being used by the European Commission,[19] Switzerland,[20] the Deutsche Bundesbank,[21] SWIFT,[22] and other organizations as a temporary country code for Kosovo • Kurdistan ————— Less popular requests • Sneezing Face • Spoon • Giggle / Chuckle • Hoodie • Carrot • Coconut • Mango • Lacrosse • Starfish • Bucket • Potato • Tumbleweed