L2/00-188R
Minutes of the NCITS/L2 meeting # 181
August 8-11, 2000
2000-08-11
16: Apple, Compaq, HP, IBM, Microsoft, NCR, Oracle, PeopleSoft, Progress, RLG, SHARE, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, Unisys,Xerox
5: Not present: Apple, Oracle, RLG, Sun, Xerox
Xerox : missed 3 meetings since joining NCITS/L2
Action: Winkler will write official letter
RLG: Winkler asks for agreement, that RLG not be put into jeopardy due to Joan's illness. Agreement by the group.
Name |
Company |
L2 |
UTC/L2 |
UTC/L2 |
UTC/L2 |
UTC/L2 |
L2 |
Aliprand, Joan |
RLG |
|
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|
|
|
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Austein, Rob |
Internetshare |
|
|
|
E (am) |
|
|
Davis, Mark |
IBM, Unicode (L2) |
A |
O |
O |
O |
O |
(A) |
Eisenberg, Andrew |
Progress |
|
|
E |
|
|
|
Freytag, Asmus |
Proxy for Basis, Unicode |
P |
O |
O |
O |
O |
P |
Hart, Edwin |
SHARE |
|
|
|
|
CP |
P |
Hiura, Hideki |
Sun Microsystems |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jenkins, John |
Apple |
|
Proxy Lisa |
Proxy Lisa |
Proxy Lisa |
Proxy Lisa |
|
Kaplan, Michael |
Trigeminal |
X |
AM |
AM |
AM |
AM |
X |
Klensin, John |
AT&T |
|
|
|
E (am) |
|
|
Kobayashi, Tatsuo |
Justsystem |
x |
CP |
CP |
CP |
CP |
X |
Ksar, Mike |
HP |
P |
CP |
CP |
CP |
CP |
P |
Long, Wai-Man |
Compaq |
P |
CP |
|
CP (pm) |
CP |
P |
Martin-O'Donnell, Sandra |
Compaq |
A |
CP |
CP |
CP |
|
|
Moore, Lisa |
IBM |
A |
CP |
CP |
CP |
CP |
(A) |
Mueller, Claudia |
Rationale |
X |
AM |
AM (pm) |
AM (pm) |
|
|
Phipps, Toby |
PeopleSoft |
X |
CP |
CP |
CP |
AM |
P |
Roberts, Gary |
NCR |
P |
CP |
CP |
CP |
CP |
P |
Sargent, Murray |
Microsoft |
A |
CP |
CP |
CP |
CP |
(A) |
Suignard, Michel |
Microsoft |
P |
CA |
CA |
CA |
CA |
P |
Texin, Tex |
Progress Software |
P |
CP |
CP |
CP |
CP |
P |
Umamaheswaran |
IBM |
P |
CA |
CA |
CA |
CA |
P |
Whistler, Ken |
Sybase |
P |
CP |
CP |
CP |
CP |
P |
Winkler, Arnold |
Unisys |
P |
CP |
CP |
CP |
CP |
P |
Wissink, Cathy |
Microsoft |
X |
CA |
CA |
CA |
CA |
X |
Yang, Jianping |
Oracle |
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|
|
|
|
|
Training for Lisa and Michel has been done in Eureka – L2 is fully educated now. Gratulations !
Minutes are approved (3 abstentions)
Action items were discussed, new list will be posted after the meeting.
See L2/SD-3 for current document register
Agenda is approved
UTC 85/L2 182 - November 7-10, 2000, San Diego, host
NCR
UTC 86/L2 183 - January 29 - February 1, 2001, Cupertino, host
IBM
UTC 87/L2 184 - May 21- 24, 2001, Pleasanton, host Peoplesoft (changed to PeopleSoft)
UTC 88/L2 185 - August 7-10, 2001, Seattle, host Microsoft (new)
As per discussion in technical meeting. Nothing to add.
As per discussion in technical meeting. Nothing to add.
Doc. # |
Subject |
Source |
Date |
YES |
NO |
Abst. |
NV |
L2/00-169 |
Text for
FCD ballot of ISO/IEC 10646-2 |
Michel Suignard |
2000-05-19 |
11 |
0 |
0 |
5 |
Text for FCD ballot of ISO 6937 |
SC2 N3437 |
2000-05-09 |
11 |
0 |
0 |
5 |
|
Proposal for project subdivision of 10646-1:2000 |
SC2 N3449 |
2000-05-30 |
11 |
0 |
05 |
5 |
|
L2/00-196 |
ISO
1073-1:1976 – Character set OCR-A ; |
Winkler |
2000-06-23 |
See table below |
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L2/00-197 |
ISO 1154 – Dimensions and location of feed holes and code holes; with re-affirmation questionnaire |
Winkler |
2000-06-23 |
See table below |
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L2/00-198 |
ISO 1681 – Specification of unpunched paper cards; and re-affirmation questionnaire |
Winkler |
2000-06-23 |
See table below |
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L2/00-199 |
ISO 1831 - Printing specifications for OCR; with re-affirmation questionnaire |
Winkler |
2000-06-23 |
See table below |
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Text for DCOR #1 ballot for ISO 10367 |
SC2/WG3 N494 |
2000-01-19 |
11 |
0 |
0 |
5 |
Standard |
Q1-a |
Q1-b |
Q1-c |
Q2 |
Q3 |
Q4 |
Q5 |
|
Confirm |
Revise |
Withdraw |
Yes/no |
Yes/no |
Yes/no |
US std. |
ISO 1073-1 |
Archive |
|
|
No |
Yes |
Yes |
A/I 1073-1 |
ISO 1145 |
Archive |
|
|
No |
Yes |
Yes |
A/I 1145 |
ISO 1681 |
Archive |
|
|
No |
Yes |
Yes |
A/I 1681 |
ISO 1831 |
Archive |
|
|
No |
Yes |
Yes |
A/I 1831 |
Comments1073-1 and 1831 transfer to SC31. Vote on all 11:0:0:5
Q2: participate in update
Q3: impl. as a national std or used per se
Q4: impl. or used without change if Q3 is yes
Doc # |
Subject |
Source |
Date |
Vote |
Text for FDIS ballot ISO/IEC 14651 – International string ordering (Template table) |
Alain LaBonté |
2000-04-06 |
YES |
|
Modifications to the SC 2 Program of Work |
JTC1 N6181 |
2000-06-05 |
YES |
Doc. # |
Subject |
Source |
Date |
Project |
|
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|
Application for registration #230 – Turkmen Alphabet |
SC2 N3438 |
2000-05-12 |
396-D |
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Comment are in document L2/00-273 – submitted to NCITS on 8/11/2000
None since the last meeting
#228 and #229 are now registered (JISC plane 1 and 2).
Resolutions from the JTC1 special group meeting on strategic planning in Zurich, June 19-21, 2000 |
JTC1 special group on strategic planning |
2000-06-21 |
Admin |
|
Participation in JTC 1 Development Activities |
JTC1 N6206 |
2000-06-26 |
Admin |
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Request for Input on Participation in JTC 1 Development Activities |
JTC1 N6207 |
2000-06-26 |
Admin |
|
Request for Input on Proposed Changes to JTC 1 Structure |
JTC1 N6208 |
2000-06-26 |
Admin |
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Request for Input on Funding the JTC 1 Program |
JTC1 N6209 |
2000-06-26 |
Admin |
|
Request for Input on Maintenance Teams |
JTC1 N6210 |
2000-06-26 |
Admin |
|
JTC 1 Long-term Business Plan |
JTC1 N6211 |
2000-06-28 |
Admin |
|
Draft comments on JTC1 documents L2/00-207 through L2/00-210 |
Whistler, L2 |
2000-08-10 |
admin |
L2/00-245 was proposed by Ken Whistler as the basis for extensive discussions in the meeting. The resulting document, L2/00-245R, was agreed unanymously as the L2 comments to the JTC1 request. Arnold sent it to NCITS on the morning of 8/10/2000.
Major changes as result of the discussions is that the direct participation of companies is not viewed favourably, but that consortia and academic groups are acceptable (with some control against stacking of consortia by single companies). A rather radical suggestion would allow JTC1 to "endorse" consortia developed standards.
No contribution addresses the funding.
L2/00-245R will be part of the US contribution, compiled by David Thewliss.
L2 approves the motions of the UTC meeting 11:0:0:5
Draft agenda for SC2 – Athens, Sep. 25-26, 2000 |
SC2 N3447 |
2000-05-29 |
admin |
2nd Call WG2 Meeting # 39, in Athens, 19 to 25 September 2000. |
Mike Ksar |
2000-07-18 |
Admin |
Draft
agenda for SC2/WG3 in Athens, |
E. Melagrakis |
2000-07-17 |
admin |
Notice and draft agenda WG20 – Oct. 30 – Nov. 1 |
WG20 N763 |
2000-06-30 |
admin |
Whistler, Davis, Moore, Suignard (HoD),Hart, Freytag, Winkler, Aliprand, Ksar
Whistler, Davis, Moore, Suignard,Hart, Freytag, Winkler, Aliprand, Ksar as convenor
Add Toby Phipps
Whistler, Davis, Moore, Suignard,Hart, Freytag, Winkler, Aliprand, Ksar;
Add Toby Phipps
Whistler, Davis, Hiura, Winkler (as convenor)
As per discussion in technical meeting. Nothing to add.
Neither Mike Ksar nor Arnold will be going to France.
Action plan expected from the ad-hoc committee that was formed when John Klensin and Rob Austein from the IETF discussed their requirements on August 10, 2000. Define the specification, fast track the US standard to NCITS as a US standard, fast track to JTC1. Unicode
Arnold reports on the history of this effort and his meeting with Elaine Keown and Seth Jerchower. We can expect a first submission by the next meeting.
The meeting is adjourned.