Approved Minutes of the UTC 101 / L2 198 Joint
Meeting
Cupertino, CA -- November 15-18, 2004
Hosted by Apple
UTC #101 Agenda
February 10, 2005
November 15, 2004
Script Subcommittee meeting
Scripts - Greek letter Lowercase and Capital Heta (C.6)PRESENT: Adobe System, Inc; Apple Computer, Inc; Basis Technology Corporation; Hewlett-Packard; IBM Corporation; Justsystem (by proxy); Microsoft Corporation; Oracle; PeopleSoft; RLG (by proxy); Sybase, Inc. 10 full members present, 1 supporting member present[101-A1] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Find out what people are using currently with regard to Greek Letter Lowercase Heta and Greek Letter Capital Heta. Is this used in computerized form at all? Evidence does seem to be pretty good. Look at the Cyrillic precedents. [L2/04-388]
[101-A2] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Report to Nick Nicholas re L2/04-388 (Greek Letter Lowercase Heta and Greek Letter Capital Heta) that the case is reasonably clear. The urgency of encoding is not clear. Have Nick get feedback and submit a "final" proposal for a future UTC meeting.
NOT PRESENT: Agence Intergouvernementale de la Francophonie; India, MIT; Pakistan, NLA; SAP AG; Sun Microsystems. 5 full members not present
Voting members: 15 full, 1 supporting
Voting members in regular attendance: 13
full, 1 supporting
Quorum: 7
[101-C1] Consensus: Approve the minutes for UTC #100 as amended in committee (100-C16 codepoints are incorrect, remove Sandra from the attendee list, page 13 100-C31 has an extra "b" in Arabic.) [L2/04-316R]
Action Item Review (A.5.2)
[101-A3] Action Item for Asmus Freytag, Editorial Committee: Write a description of Mongolian shaping for Unicode 5.0.
Calendar Review (A.6 )
Editorial Committee - Errata (B.14.2.1)
[101-A4] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Notify Magda to add the question of updating the stability policies to the officers agenda for Friday Nov 19, and convey the results back to UTC at the next meeting. [L2/04-366, L2/04-393]
[101-M1] Motion: Swap the glyphs for U+2B08 NORTH EAST BLACK ARROW and U+2B09 NORTH WEST BLACK ARROW and post as an erratum. [L2/04-366, L2/04-393]
Moved by Ken Whistler, seconded by Eric Muller
9.5 for (Adobe, Apple, Basis, HP, IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, Peoplesoft, RLG, Sybase)
0 against
1 abstain (Justsystem)Motion 101-M1 carries.
[101-A5] Action Item for Asmus Freytag, Editorial Committee: Fix the glyphs and post an erratum for U+2B08 NORTH EAST BLACK ARROW and U+2B09 NORTH WEST BLACK ARROW. Prepare a document for WG2 notifying them of needed corrigendum. [L2/04-366, L2/04-393]
[101-C3] Consensus: Change the glyph for U+01B3 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y WITH HOOK to have the hook on the right, and document that glyphs with the hook on the left also occur. [L2/04-399]
[101-A6] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Create an FAQ documenting the range of acceptable glyph variants. Start with Figure 7.1 from the book, and include a pointer to the Micorsoft typography website for more information. See also 1.0 glyph variations in the book, and include a description of U+01B3 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y WITH HOOK (see 101-C3). [L2/04-399]
[101-A7] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add to the ballot comments a request to change the glyph for U+01B3 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y WITH HOOK to have the hook on the right.
November 16, 2004
PRESENT: Adobe System, Inc; Apple Computer, Inc; Basis Technology Corporation; Hewlett-Packard; IBM Corporation; Justsystem (by proxy); Microsoft Corporation; Oracle; PeopleSoft; RLG (by proxy); Sybase, Inc. 10 full members present, 1 supporting member present
NOT PRESENT: Agence Intergouvernementale de la Francophonie; India, MIT; Pakistan, NLA; SAP AG; Sun Microsystems. 5 full members not presentPublic Review Issue 39 - Draft Unicode Standard Annex #31: Identifier and Pattern Syntax (B.12.1)
Public Review Issue 40 - Latin Capital and Small Letter "At" (B.12.2)[101-C4] Consensus: Advance Draft Unicode Standard Annex #31: Identifier and Pattern Syntax to Unicode Standard Annex #31: Identifier and Pattern Syntax in Unicode 4.1, after deleting mention of levels in the conformance statements. [L2/04-376, L2/04-391]
[101-A8] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update Draft Unicode Standard Annex #31: Identifier and Pattern Syntax to Unicode Standard Annex #31: Identifier and Pattern Syntax in Unicode 4.1, after deleting mention of levels in the conformance statements. [L2/04-376, L2/04-391]
[101-A9] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close Public Review Issue #39 with action "draft is advanced with modification". [L2/04-376, L2/04-391]
[101-C5] Consensus: Modify the description in UCD.html to reflect that both SpecialCasing.txt and CaseFolding.txt are required by a conformance clause in the standard, and should be described as such in the documentation.
[101-A10] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update the descriptions of the files SpecialCasing.txt and CaseFolding.txt as mentioned in 101-C5 for Unicode 4.1.
[101-A11] Action Item for Asmus Freytag, Editorial Committee: Add language to Chapter 3 (Conformance) of the standard to clarify that conformant implementations can override C20 (default casing is not required).
Public Review Issue Issue 41 - INVISIBLE LETTER (B.12.3)[101-A12] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Close Public Review Issue #40 documenting that there is no compelling evidence of usage of Latin capital and small letter "At" to date, and that the UTC will not change the properties of the existing @ sign, U+0040 COMMERCIAL AT SIGN, to be a letter. [L2/04-365, L2/04-391]
Moved by Ken Whistler, seconded by Rick McGowan
3 for (Sun, Sybase, Oracle)
6 against (Adobe, Apple, IBM, HP, Microsoft, RLG )
1.5 abstain (Basis, Justsystem)Motion 101-M2 fails.
[101-A13] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close Public Review Issue #41, documenting that the proposal to encode "invisible letter" was rejected. [L2/04-268, L2/04-391]
[101-M3] Motion: Add "invisible letter" to the list of rejected characters.
Moved by Mark Davis, seconded by V S Umamaheswaran
5 for (Adobe, Apple, IBM, Microsoft, RLG)
0.5 against (Basis)
5 abstain (HP, Justsystem, Oracle, Sun, Sybase)Motion 101-M3 fails.
[101-A14] Action Item for Asmus Freytag, WG2 Delegates: Oppose the encoding of invisible letter at WG2 meetings. L2/04-268.
Public Review Issue Issue 42 - Proposed Draft Unicode Standard Annex #34: Unicode Named Character Sequences (B.12.4)
[101-A14a] Action Item for Asmus Freytag, Editorial Committee: Update Proposed Draft Unicode Standard Annex #34: Unicode Named Character Sequences. Clarify why variation selectors are not documented here. [L2/04-377, L2/04-391R]
[101-C7] Consensus: Do not have a part in the names of named character sequences that uniquely identifies them as such. [L2/04-377, L2/04-391R]
[101-A15] Action Item for Asmus Freytag, Michel Suignard: Report to WG2 the UTC rationale for not using unique identifier prefixes with named character sequences. Prepare a document for WG2 that addresses the outstanding WG2 action items on named character sequences, see resolution 44-16. [L2/04-377, L2/04-391R]
[101-C8] Consensus: Advance Proposed Draft Unicode Standard Annex #34: Unicode Named Character Sequences to Draft Unicode Standard Annex #34: Unicode Named Character Sequences after incorporating input recieved during the meeting. [L2/04-377, L2/04-391R]
[101-A16] Action Item for Asmus Freytag, Editorial Committee: Update and post Draft Unicode Standard Annex #34: Unicode Named Character Sequences. Post by Dec 31, 2004. [L2/04-377, L2/04-391R]
[101-A17] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post Public Review Issue for Draft Unicode Standard Annex #34: Unicode Named Character Sequences. Post by Dec 31, 2004, to close January 31, 2005. [L2/04-377, L2/04-391R]
[101-A18] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close Public Review Issue #42. Proposed Draft Unicode Standard Annex #34: Unicode Named Character Sequences is advanced to Draft Unicode Standard Annex #34: Unicode Named Character Sequences.
[101-C9] Consensus: VOID
Public Review Issue 46: Meteg (B.12.8)
[101-M4] Motion: UTC approves the method for representing Meteg by using the control characters CGJ, ZWJ, and ZWNJ to control positioning of Meteg, as documented in L2/04-194.
Moved by Mark Davis, seconded by Rick McGowan
7 for (Apple, IBM, HP, Justsystem, Microsoft, Oracle, Sybase)
0 against
2 abstain (Adobe, RLG)
Basis and Sun are out of the roomMotion 101-M4 carries.
[101-A19] Action Item for Mike Ksar, Peter Constable, Editorial Committee: Document the behavior of Meteg and CGJ, ZWJ, and ZWNJ for Unicode 4.1. [L2/04-194]
[101-A20] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close Public Review Issue #46, with the disposition that the proposal was approved and will be documented in Unicode 4.1. [L2/04-194]
Public Review Issue 43 - Proposed Draft Unicode Standard Annex #24: Script Names (B.12.5)
[101-C10] Consensus: Advance Proposed Draft Unicode Standard Annex #24: Script Names to Unicode Standard Annex #24: Script Names for Unicode 4.1, with modifications received during discussion. [L2/04-391R]
[101-A21] Action Item for Asmus Freytag, Editorial Committee: Update Unicode Standard Annex #24: Script Names for 4.1, with modifications received during discussion at UTC. [L2/04-391R]
[101-A22] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close Public Review Issue #43 Script Names, with the disposition that it was advanced to approved UAX. [L2/04-391R]
Public Review Issue 44 - Bidi Category of Fullwidth Solidus (B.12.6)
[101-C11] Consensus: Change the bidi category of U+FF0F FULLWIDTH SOLIDUS from ES to CS.
[101-C12] Consensus: Create a Public Review Issue regarding changing the bidi category of seven compatibility characters from "ET" to "ES":
U+207A SUPERSCRIPT PLUS SIGN
U+208A SUBSCRIPT PLUS SIGN
U+FB29 HEBREW LETTER ALTERNATIVE PLUS SIGN
U+FE62 SMALL PLUS SIGN
U+FE63 SMALL HYPHEN-MINUS
U+FF0B FULLWIDTH PLUS SIGN
U+FF0D FULLWIDTH HYPHEN-MINUSAlso included in this public review issue should be the question whether to change from "ET" to "ES" for U+2212 MINUS SIGN, U+207B SUPERSCRIPT MINUS, and U+208B SUBSCRIPT MINUS.
[101-A23] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Create the public review issue and post by November 24, 2004, to close January 31, 2005. Double check the categories.
[101-A24] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close Public Review Issue #44, with the disposition that the bidi category was changed.
[101-A25] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Notify Murray Sargent when Public Review Issue #44 on changing the bidi category of seven compatibility characters from ET to ES goes live to make sure that the math community looks at it.
Public Review Issue 45 - U+202F NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE (B.12.7)
[101-C13] Consensus: Change the Bidi category of U+202F NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE from "WS" to "CS" for Unicode 4.1.
[101-A26] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Change the bidi category of U+202F NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE from "WS" to "CS" for Unicode 4.1.
[101-A27] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close Public Review Issue #45, with the disposition that the bidi category was changed.
Public Review Issue 49 - Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #6: A Standard Compression Scheme for Unicode (B.12.11)
[101-C14] Consensus: Advance Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #6: A Standard Compression Scheme for Unicode to Unicode Technical Standard #6: A Standard Compression Scheme for Unicode after review by Editorial Committee and taking into account the wording of issues raised by public feedback in L2/04-391. [L2/04-379]
[101-A28] Action Item for Markus Scherer, Editorial Compression: Update Unicode Technical Standard #6: A Standard Compression Scheme for Unicode and post ASAP. [L2/04-379, L2/04-391]
[101-A29] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close Public Review Issue #49, with the dispostion that the draft was accepted. [L2/04-379, L2/04-391]
Public Review Issue 51 - Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries (B.12.13)
[101-A30] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries and incorporate changes from L2/04-405.
Public Review Issue 52 - Proposed Draft Unicode Technical Report #36: Security Considerations (B.12.14)
[101-C15] Consensus: Advance Proposed Draft Unicode Technical Report #36: Security Considerations to Draft Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode-Related Security Considerations, after including feedback received in the UTC meeting. [L2/04-382]
[101-A31] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Post Draft Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode-Related Security Considerations by Dec 31, 2004. [L2/04-382]
[101-A32] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post Draft Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode-Related Security Considerations by Dec 31, 2004 after Mark's draft is completed. [L2/04-382]
[101-A33] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close Public Review Issue #52, with the disposition that the UTR willl be advanced to "Draft UTR". [L2/04-382]
Public Review Issue 53 - Proposed Draft Unicode Technical Report #33: Unicode Conformance Model (B.12.15)
[101-A34] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Extend the review period for Public Review Issue #53 to January 31, 2005, and announce the extension ASAP. [L2/04-383]
[101-A35] Action Item for Asmus Freytag: Produce a new committee draft for Proposed Draft Unicode Technical Report #33: Unicode Conformance Model. [L2/04-383]
Public Review Issue 54: Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #22: Character Mapping Markup Language (B.12.16)
[101-A36] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Extend review period for Public Review Item #54 (Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #22: Character Mapping Markup Language) to January 31, 2005, and announce the extension ASAP. [L2/04-384]
Public Review Issue 55 - Proposed change to character properties for two Katakana characters (B.12.17)
[101-C16] Consensus: Change the General Category of U+30FB KATAKANA MIDDLE DOT and U+FF65 HALFWIDTH KATAKANA MIDDLE DOT from "Pc" to "Po". [L2/04-391]
[101-A37] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the properties of U+30FB KATAKANA MIDDLE DOT and U+FF65 HALFWIDTH KATAKANA MIDDLE DOT for Unicode 4.1 to change the General Category from "Pc" to "Po". [L2/04-391]
[101-A38] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close Public Review Issue #55 and post the resolution to change the General Category from "Pc" to "Po". [L2/04-391]
[101-A39] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Remove U+30FB KATAKANA MIDDLE DOT and U+FF65 HALFWIDTH KATAKANA MIDDLE DOT from the special handling in Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries. [L2/04-391]
Public Review Issue 56 - Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #14: Line Breaking Properties (B.12.18)
[101-A40] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Extend Public Review Issue #56 to close on January 31, 2005. [L2/04-385]
[101-A41] Action Item for Asmus Freytag, Editorial Committee: Refresh the document and Public Review Issue for Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #14: Line Breaking Properties by December 31, 2004. [L2/04-385]
[101-A42] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post updated Public Review Issue #56 when Asmus finishes the update in December, to close January 31, 2005. [L2/04-385]
November 17, 2004
PRESENT: Adobe System, Inc; Apple Computer, Inc; Basis Technology Corporation; Hewlett-Packard; IBM Corporation; Justsystem (by proxy); Microsoft Corporation; Oracle; PeopleSoft; RLG (by proxy); Sybase, Inc. 10 full members present, 1 supporting member present
NOT PRESENT: Agence Intergouvernementale de la Francophonie; India, MIT; Pakistan, NLA; SAP AG; Sun Microsystems. 5 full members not presentCLDR (B.11.1)
[101-A43] Action Item for Mark Davis: Get the Indic-list group more involved with the CLDR activities (to gather & vet data).
[101-A44] Action Item for Lisa Moore, Magda Danish: Ask Magda to collect e-mail IDS from TDIL info to use to contact for CLDR activities.
[101-A45] Action Item for Mark Davis: Write up a CLDR liaison report.
[101-A46] Action Item for Cathy Wissink: Forward the CLDR liaison report on behalf of L2 to John Hill, SC22 Chair.
Public Review Issue 47: Default collation of Latin (B.12.9)
[101-M5] Motion: Accept changes for the ten characters and their lower cases given in L2/04-407 section 1 (primary weights) and section 2 (secondary weights).
primary weights:
0C6 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER AE
01FC LATIN CAPITAL LETTER AE WITH ACUTE
01E2 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER AE WITH MACRONsecondary weights:
00D8 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH STROKE
01FE LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH STROKE AND ACUTE
0110 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER D WITH STROKE
0141 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L WITH STROKE
013F LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L WITH MIDDLE DOT
00D0 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER ETH
0126 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER H WITH STROKE
Moved by Mark Davis, seconded by V S Umamaheswaran
6 for (Adobe, Apple, HP, IBM, Oracle, RLG)
4 against (Microsoft, Sybase, Sun, Justsystem)
0 abstain
Basis out of the room.Motion 101-M5 carries.
[101-A47] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the UCA to reflect motion 101-M5 on default collation of Latin for Unicode 4.1. [L2/04-407]
[101-A48] Action Item for Mark Davis: Document the changes in the UCA to reflect motion 101-M5 on default collation of Latin for Unicode 4.1. [L2/04-407]
[101-A49] Action Item for Mark Davis: Convey the changes in the UCA (to the default collation of Latin)<> <>to the SC2 14651 editing group, including the rationale for the next amendment. [L2/04-407]
[101-A50] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close Public Review Issue #47, with resolution as per motion 101-M5. [L2/04-407]
Public Review Issue 50 - Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #18: Unicode Regular Expressions (B.12.12)
[101-M6] Motion: Add circled letters A through Z, upper and lowercase, U+24B6..U+24E9, to the "Other_Alphabetic" property in Proplist.txt. [L2/04-380, L2/04-391]]
Moved by Mark Davis, Seconded by Ken Whistler
7 for (Apple, HP, IBM, Justsystem, Microsoft, Oracle, Sybase)
0.5 against (Basis)
3 abstain (Adobe, RLG, Sun)Motion 101-M6 carries.
[101-A51] Action Item for Mark Davis: Make changes per motion 101-M6 (circled letters) in PropList.txt for Unicode 4.1 and the superset test to the invariant test. [L2/04-380]
[101-A52] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #18: Unicode Regular Expressions with the changes of alphabetic property of the cirlced letters in Annex C. [L2/04-380]
[101-C17] Consensus: Advance Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #18: Unicode Regular Expressions to Unicode Technical Standard #18: Unicode Regular Expressions, after incorporating results of the discussion, changes to alphabetic, and further wording changes to be discussed with Peter Linsley to address his issues in document L2/04-391. [L2/04-380]
[101-A53] Action Item for Mark Davis: Work with Peter Linsley to resolve editorial issues with Unicode Technical Standard #18: Unicode Regular Expressions. [L2/04-380, L2/04-391]
[101-A54] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update and post Unicode Technical Standard #18: Unicode Regular Expressions. [L2/04-380]
[101-A55] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close Public Review Issue #50, with resolution that the draft will be advanced. [L2/04-380]
Properties - Unicode 1 Hangul Mapping Errors (B.15.1)
[101-A56] Action Item for V S Umamaheswaran: Verify that the known Hangul mapping errors documented in L2/04-392 have not been propagated into IBM mapping tables.
[101-A57] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add the conclusion of L2/04-392 to a "readme" file in the same directory as the HANGUL.TXT file, pending outcome of the investigation by Asmus Freytag and V S Umamaheswaran on the extent of Hangul mapping errors.
WG2 - CJK Ideograph Source Visual References (B.1.7)
[101-M7] Motion: Request that the IRG provide reference visual information for the sources for all CJK Unified Ideographs, both for those currently encoded and for future additions. [L2/04-400]
Moved by Michel Suignard, seconded by V S Umamaheswaran
8 for (Adobe, Apple, HP, IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, RLG, Sybase)
1 against (Sun)
1.5 abstain (Basis, Justsystem)Motion 101-M7 carries.
[101-A58] Action Item for John Jenkins, Hideki Hiura: Relay the UTC position on visual reference information to the IRG, and offer Unicode Consortium assistance with hosting the data. [L2/04-400]
Editorial Committee - CJK Font for Extension B (B.14.2.2)
[101-C18] Consensus: UTC accepts the 12 CJK Extension B glyph changes documented in the "G source" column of section T.18 of document L2/04-408.
[101-A59] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Include consensus 101-C18 (the UTC accepts the 12 CJK Extension B glyph changes documented in the "G source" column of section T.18 of document L2/04-408) in FPDAM 1 ballot comments.
[101-A60] Action Item for Asmus Freytag, Editorial Committee: Prepare an erratum for the 12 CJK Extension B glyphs mentioned in section T.18 of document L2/04-408.
[101-A61] Action Item for Richard Cook, Editorial Committee: Review the other 299 CJK Extension B glyphs discussed in document L2/04-408, documenting potential glyph errors plus known glyph errata since the initial publication of Unicode 3.2 and submit to WG2 as a Unicode/US contribution.
Properties - Unencoded CJK Ideographs (C.15 )
[101-C19] Consensus: Add a kXHC field to Unihan.txt that contains the Pinyin readings and mapping data for the approximately 14000 ideographic characters from the XHC source as a provisional data field, after Unicode 4.1.
[101-A62] Action Item for Richard Cook: Proof the Pinyin readings and mapping data for the approximately 14000 ideographic characters from the XHC source and supply info to John Jenkins to update the Unihan database.
[101-A63] Action Item for John Jenkins: Update the Unihan database with the new kXHC field from XHC source readings, and document the new field, after Unicode 4.1. [L2/04-373]
Properties - Cuneiform properties (B.15.4)
[101-A64] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Use the property information in L2/04-354 when updating data files for Cuneiform for Unicode 5.0.
[101-A65] Action Item for Asmus Freytag: Take linebreak info for Cuneiform from document L2/04-354 into account when updating Unicode Standard Annex #1: Line Breaking Properties for Unicode 5.0.
Scripts - CJK Basic Strokes (C.14)
[101-C20] Consensus: Support the name changes for U+31C4 to CJK BASIC STROKE SW and U+31C3 to CJK BASIC STROKE WOG in L2/04-408 section T.8. [L2/04-367]
[101-A66] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with name changes for U+31C4 and U+31C3 as per L2/04-408 section T.8.
[101-A67] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the 4.1 data files with the new names for U+31C4 and U+31C3 as per L2/04-408 section T.8.
WG2 - Action Items (B.1.3)
[101-A68] Action Item for Richard Cook: Document a response to WG2 action item 44-6C and send to Mike Ksar for consideration at the next WG2 meeting.
November 18, 2004
PRESENT: Adobe System, Inc; Apple Computer, Inc; Basis Technology Corporation; Hewlett-Packard; IBM Corporation; Microsoft Corporation; PeopleSoft; RLG (by proxy); Sybase, Inc. 8 full members present, 1 supporting member presentNOT PRESENT: Agence Intergouvernementale de la Francophonie; India, MIT; Justsystem (by proxy); Oracle; Pakistan, NLA; SAP AG; Sun Microsystems. 7 full members not present
[101-A69] Action Item for Asmus Freytag, WG2 delegation: Do not oppose Greek Letters Lowercase and Capital Heta if the proposal comes up with further clarification and feedback during the upcoming WG2 meeting. [L2/04-388]
[101-A70] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Follow up with Nick Nicholas on Greek Letters Lowercase and Capital Heta proposal. [L2/04-388]
Scripts - Epigraphical Greek Letters (C.7)
[101-A71] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Relay to Nick Nicholas that UTC concurs with his doubts about the Epigraphical Greek Letters. The case seems dubious for Tsan. Sampi might be stronger. If simply a glyph variant, then it's weak to encode it as a separate character. [L2/04-389]
Scripts - Aktieselskab (C.8)
[101-C21] Consensus: The UTC accepts the character U+214D AKTIESELSKAB as a symbol with no case pairing and without a compatibility decomposition. [L2/04-394]
[101-A72] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Work with Stoetzner to create a WG2 proposal form for U+214D AKTIESELSKAB and forward to Mike Ksar by December 31, 2004, for consideration at the January 2005 WG2 meeting. [L2/04-394]
[101-A73] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+214D AKTIESELSKAB. [L2/04-394]
[101-A73a] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add U+214D AKTIESELSKAB to the US ballot comments. [L2/04-394]
Scripts - Capital Double S (C.9)
[101-C22] Consensus: The UTC concurs with Stoetzner that Capital Double S is a typographical issue. Therefore the UTC believes it is inappropriate to encode it as a separate character. [L2/04-395]
[101-A74] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add Capital Double S to the reject list. [L2/04-395]
[101-A75] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Relay results of consensus 101-C22 on the Capital Double S to Stoetzner. [L2/04-395]
Scripts - Lanna (C.10)
[101-A76] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Follow up with Martin Hosken on L2/04-351 with the questions expressed during the meeting (What is a "sign syllable joiner"? How is it different from sub-joiner? Subjoined forms should be spelled out along with the table that he gives, to avoid ambiguity).
Scripts - Balinese (C.11)
[101-A77] Action Item for Asmus Freytag, WG2 delegation: Oppose inserting Balinese in FPDAM 1 because it is not mature enough. It would be OK to add to a PDAM. [L2/04-357]
Scripts - Gujarati Signs (C.12)
[101-A78] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Follow up with Manoj Jain on proposal L2/04-358 for additional Gujarati signs. Request some minor revision and answer any questions to improve the proposal, then ask him to re-submit it for the next meeting. Thank him for the submission.
[101-A79] Action Item for Asmus Freytag, WG2 delegation: Support the UTC position that Gujarati sign proposal L2/04-358 is not mature enough for acceptance.
Scripts - Additional Kannada Characters (C.13)
[101-C23] Consensus: The proposal for encoding of danda and double danda for Kannada cannot be decided at this time, because there needs to be a comprehensive approach to decide whether or not to disunify several dandas. [L2/04-364]
[101-A80] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Document and post a public review issue on the disunification of dandas. [L2/04-364]
[101-C24] Consensus: The UTC would not oppose addition of the remaining four characters in proposal L2/04-364 (i.e., excluding dandas). UTC wouldn't oppose them if the issue comes into WG2.
[101-A81] Action Item for Asmus Freytag, WG2 delegation: Oppose the addition of the Kannada danda and double danda, but not the other four characters in L2/04-364.
Scripts - Lepcha (C.16)
[101-A82] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to the Government of India. Thank them and respond with specific comments on the Lepcha proposal, and point them to other existing proposals and implementations of Lepcha, requesting a dialog. [L2/04-397]
Scripts - Proposal to encode Vedic accents, etc. (C.17)
[101-C25] Consensus: Ask the officers to get input from V. S. Umamaheswaran and respond to Om Vikas (Government of India) on the Vedic proposal L2/04-398, asking questions: Why are the characters with virama explicitly disunified with Devanagari? Are Wa and Va Oriya may be in the wrong place? Gurmukhi letter to be moved?
Scripts - Hebrew issues (C.18)
[101-C26] Consensus: UTC approves swapping previously approved code points and now assigns U+05BA HOLAM HASER FOR VAV and U+05C7 QAMATS QATAN.
[101-A83] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to reflect a swap of the previously approved codepoints: assigning U+05BA HOLAM HASER FOR VAV and U+05C7 QAMATS QATAN.
[101-A84] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add consensus 101-C26 on U+05BA HOLAM HASER FOR VAV and U+05C7 QAMATS QATAN to ballot comments on the FPDAM 1.
[101-A85] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Follow up with Peter Kirk, et al, regarding UTC approval to assign U+05BA HOLAM HASER FOR VAV and U+05C7 QAMATS QATAN.
Scripts - Additional Latin Orthographic Characters (C.2)
[101-C27] Consensus: Acccept five Latin Orthographic characters and codepoints: [L2/04-372]
U+2C60 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L WITH DOUBLE BAR
U+2C61 LATIN SMALL LETTER L WITH DOUBLE BAR
U+2C62 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L WITH MIDDLE TILDE
* lowercase is U+026B
U+2C63 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER P WITH STROKE
* lowercase is in the pipeline
U+2C64 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER R WITH TAIL
* lowercase is U+027Din new block, named "Latin Extended C", U+2C60..U+2C7F.
[101-A86] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add to pipeline the five Latin additions (U+2C60..U+2C64) from consensus 101-C27. [L2/04-372]
[101-A87] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add Modifier Letter Straight Apostrophe to the rejected list. [L2/04-372]
[101-A88] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add the five Latin additions (U+2C60..U+2C64) to ballot comments for PDAM 2. [L2/04-372]
[101-A89] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Work with Lorna Priest to update proposal L2/04-372 and forward to Mike Ksar for WG2 by December 31, 2004. Include the new names as documented in consensus 101-C27.
Scripts - Additional Latin Phonetic and Orthographic Characters (C.3)
[101-A90] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add the 21 orthographic characters to ballot comments for PDAM 2. [L2/04-348]
1DC4 COMBINING MACRON-ACUTE
1DC5 COMBINING GRAVE-MACRON
1DC6 COMBINING MACRON-GRAVE
1DC7 COMBINING ACUTE-MACRON
1DC8 COMBINING GRAVE-ACUTE-GRAVE
1DC9 COMBINING ACUTE-GRAVE-ACUTE
1DCA COMBINING LATIN SMALL LETTER R BELOW
0242 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER B WITH STROKE
• lowercase is 0180 ƀ
0243 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U BAR
• lowercase is 0289 ʉ
0244 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER TURNED V
• lowercase is 028C ʌ
0245 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER E WITH STROKE
0246 LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH STROKE
0247 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER J WITH STROKE
0248 LATIN SMALL LETTER J WITH STROKE
0249 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SMALL Q WITH HOOK TAIL
024A LATIN SMALL LETTER Q WITH HOOK TAIL
024B LATIN CAPITAL LETTER R WITH STROKE
024C LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH STROKE
024D LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y WITH STROKE
024E LATIN SMALL LETTER Y WITH STROKE
024F LATIN SMALL LETTER V WITH CURL
[101-A91] Action Item for Mike Ksar: Pick up document L2/04-348 for WG2.
Scripts - Chinantec Tone Marks (C.4)
Scripts - Math (C.20)[101-C28] Consensus: Accept four modifier tone letters: [L2/04-349]
U+A717 MODIFIER LETTER DOT VERTICAL BAR
U+A718 MODIFIER LETTER DOT SLASH
U+A719 MODIFIER LETTER DOT HORIZONTAL BAR
U+A71A MODIFIER LETTER LOWER RIGHT CORNER ANGLE[101-A92] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include the 4 modifier tone letters of document L2/04-349 as above.
[101-A93] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Follow up with Lorna Priest to update the WG2 form (remove @ characters), give the correct codepoints, and forward to WG2 by Dec 31, 2004. [L2/04-349]
[101-A94] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add the four modifier letters (U+A717..U+A71A) to the ballot comments for PDAM 2. [L2/04-349]
Properties - Unicode properties (B.15.2)[101-C29] Consensus: Accept the 26 math characters in L2/04-410 for inclusion in Unicode 5.0.
[101-A95] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include acceptance of 26 math characters for inclusion in Unicode 5.0. [L2/04-410]
[101-A96] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add the 26 math characters in L2/04-410 to the ballot comments from PDAM 2.
[101-A97] Action Item for Asmus Freytag: Update proposal L2/04-410 with documentary evidence, name correction, and other editorial updates. Include character properties and linebreak properties. Forward to Mike Ksar by Dec 31, 2004 for consideration at the WG2 meeting in January 2005.
[101-A98] Action Item for Lisa Moore: Add L2/04-350 to the agenda of the next meeting.
Properties - Saurashtra Linebreaking and Other Properties (B.15.3)
[101-A99] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Forward L2/04-352 to Mike Ksar for WG2 posting.
Properties - Combining Classes & Typographical Interaction (B.15.5)
[101-A100] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Prepare draft chapter 3 text on combining classes and typographical interaction for Unicode 5.0 based on L2/04-359, for review at the next meeting (Feb 2005).
Scripts - Indic Ad Hoc
[101-A101] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Write and post a Public Review Issue on disunification of dandas, stating that the UTC is considering encoding script-specific dandas. Post by December 17, 2004, to close on Jan 31, 2005. [L2/04-418]
[101-A102] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Write and post a Public Review Issue on eyelash-ra stating that the UTC is considering encoding it. Post by December 17, 2004, to close January 31, 2005.
[101-A103] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Respond to Sengupta thanking him for his paper L2/04-335R2. The UTC will take no further action on Bengali yaphalaa. Cite Public Review Issue #9, there is Insufficient evidence for the need in the writing system..
Public Review Issue 48 - Directional Run (B.12.10)[101-A104] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Write and post a Public Review Issue stating that the UTC is considering adding five chillu characters for Malayalam. Post by December 17, 2004, to close January 31, 2005. Point out that the standard is ambiguous regarding the situation, and *if* the characters are not encoded, ask for opinions on the resolution of the ambiguity within the standard.
[101-A105] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the joining type of U+06C2 ARABIC LETTER HEH GOAL WITH HAMZA ABOVE to be the same as U+06C1 ARABIC LETTER HEH GOAL (dual joining) in the data files for Unicode 4.1.
[101-A106] Action Item for Mark Davis: Determine what to do about the joining group identification of U+06C3 ARABIC LETTER TEH MARBUTA GOAL. Take to the bidi subcommittee. Based on their determination, include any change in the Unicode 4.1 beta.
[101-A107] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Use the property name "No_Joining_Group" instead of "
".
UTC Membership Roll Call Adjustment
PRESENT: Sun, Justsystem (by proxy)
10 full members
present, 1 supporting member present
[101-C31] Consensus: Change the definition of "directional run" to be the same as "level run" in Unicode Standard Annex #9: The Bidirectional Algorithm. [L2/04-391]
[101-A108] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update the definition of "directional run" in Unicode Standard Annex #9: The Bidirectional Algorithm to be the same as "level run". [L2/04-391]
[101-A109] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post a Public Review Issue for Unicode Standard Annex #9: The Bidirectional Algorithm when the draft is available from Mark. Clarify the change that has been made to directional run definition.
WG2 - Phags-pa (B.1.8)
[101-A110] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add to ballot comments on PDAM 2 that the UTC re-affirms the architecture of the Phags-pa encoding currently in PDAM 2. [L2/04-412, L2/04-413, L2/04-414, L2/04-415]
WG2 - FPDAM 1 (B.1.6.1)
[101-C32] Consensus: Accept the FPDAM 1 ballot comments as documented in L2/04-408.
WG2 - PDAM 2 (B.1.6.2)
[101-C33] Consensus: Accept the PDAM 2 comments as documented in L2/04-409.
Public Review Issue 51 - UAX #29 (B.12.13)
[101-C34] Consensus: Change the definition of "numeric" for both word and sentence break in Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries to be all characters of general category "Nd" plu U+066B and U+066C. And issue a new Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries. [L2/04-381R, L2/04-405]
[101-A111] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Prepare a proposed update Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries by December 17, 2004.
[101-A112] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Extend Public Review Issue #51 to January 31, 2005, and post another Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries with Mark's updates by December 17, and announce that update when ready.
[101-A113] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Asmus Freytag: Verify the open updates and proposed updates for all UTR/UAX/UTS. There should be eight.
Variation Selectors (B.17 )
[101-C35] Consensus: The UTC approves the general direction on registering ideographic variation sequences as documented in L2/04-219 amended by L2/04-420 and further amended during discussion.
[101-A114] Action Item for Eric Muller, Editorial Committee: Create a Working Draft Proposed Draft Unicode Technical Standard #33: Registration of Ideographic Variation Sequences. [L2/04-219, L2/04-420]
[101-A115] Action Item for Asmus Freytag, WG2 delegation: Include notification on registration of Ideographic Variation Sequences in the liaison report to WG2.
UTC Membership Roll Call Adjustment
PRESENT: RLG
10 full members
present, 1 supporting member present
Unicode Technical Reports - Unicode
Technical Standard #10: Unicode Collation Algorithm
(B.13.1)
[101-C36] Consensus: Approve updating the definition of minimal match and the addition of two definitions for maximal and medium definitions to Unicode Technical Standard #10: Unicode Collation Algorithm, and include in the proposed update for Unicode 4.1. [L2/04-421]
[101-A116] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Issue a Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #10: Unicode Collation Algorithm which includes the two new definitions and changed definition and other changes (see 101-C36). [L2/04-421]
[101-A117] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Create a proposed update to Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #10: Unicode Collation Algorithm by December 31, 2004.
[101-A118] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post a Public Review Issue for Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #10: Unicode Collation Algorithm by December 31, 2004 to close January 31, 2005.
B.14.5 Issuing a 4.1 Beta
[101-C37] Consensus: Authorize issuing a Unicode 4.1 beta to close January 31, 2005.
[101-A119] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Issue a Unicode 4.1 beta to close January 31, 2005.
[101-A120] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Announce Unicode 4.1 beta when Ken and Mark have files and info ready and posted.
Attendees: | Representing: |
Joan Aliprand |
RLG |
Debbie Anderson |
Berkeley Dept. of Linguistics |
Joe Becker |
Unicode |
Mark Davis | IBM |
Asmus Freytag | Basis |
Deborah Goldsmith | Apple |
Hideki Hiura |
Sun |
Michael Kaplan | Microsoft |
Tatsuo Kobayashi |
Justsystem |
Mike Ksar | WG2 |
Peter Linsley |
Oracle |
Rick McGowan | Unicode |
Lisa Moore | IBM |
Eric Muller | Adobe |
Lynn Ruggles |
HP |
Murray Sargent |
Microsoft |
Michel Suignard | Microsoft |
Tex Texin |
Yahoo |
V S Umamaheswaran | IBM |
Ken Whistler | Sybase |
Cathy Wissink | Microsoft |
Jianping Yang |
Oracle |
UTC Full Member and Supporting Member Attendance Roster
Full Member | 11/15/04 | 11/16/04 | 11/17/04 | 11/18/04 |
1. Adobe Systems, Inc. |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
2. Agencie Fracophonie |
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3. Apple Computer, Inc. |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
4. Hewlett Packard |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
5. IBM Corporation |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
6. India, MIT |
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7. Justsystem Corporation |
yes | yes | yes |
yes (proxy) |
8. Microsoft Corporation |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
9. Oracle |
yes | yes | yes | |
10. Pakistan, NLA |
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11. PeopleSoft |
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12. RLG, Inc. |
yes | yes | yes |
yes (proxy) |
13. SAP AG |
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14. Sun Microsystems, Inc. |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
15. Sybase, Inc. |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
Small Business Member |
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1. Basis Technology Corporation |
yes | yes | yes | yes |