L2/08-003R

Approved Minutes of the UTC 114 / L2 211 Joint Meeting
Cupertino, CA -- February 5 - 8, 2008
Hosted by Apple

UTC #114 Agenda
Last updated: May 12, 2009


Monday, February 4, 2008

 Subcommittee meeting,  report: L2/08-110.


Tuesday, February 5, 2008

Script Subcommittee meeting report: L2/08-111.

[114-C0] Consensus: The UTC notes with great sadness the tragic loss of Prof. R. K. Joshi, who passed away at 11:00 p.m., Monday, February 4, 2008, in San Francisco, on his way to attend this meeting. The UTC extends its deepest condolences to Professor Joshi's family, friends, and his many colleagues around the world.


Wednesday, February 6, 2008

Administrative Roll Call (A.1)

PRESENT: Adobe Systems, Inc; Apple Computer, Inc; Google Inc.; IBM Corporation; Justsystem Corporation (proxy); Microsoft Corporation; Sun Microsystems, Inc.; Sybase, Inc.; UC Berkeley. 8 full members, 1 institutional member, and 0 supporting members present, 9 total

NOT PRESENT: Basis Technology Corporateion; Denic e.G; Hewlett Packard Company; India, MIT; Monotype Imaging Corporation; Oracle Corporation; Pakistan, NLA; SAP AG; Tamil Nadu, Yahoo! Inc. 5 full members, 3 institutional member not present, and 2 supporting member not present, 9 total

Voting members: 13 full, 4 institutional, 2 supporting
Voting members in regular attendance: 12 full,
3 institutional, 1 supporting
Quorum: 8

Administrative Calendar Review (A.6)

  UTC 115/L2 212 - May 12-16, 2008, San Jose, host, Adobe
  UTC 116/L2 213 - August 11-15, 2008, Redmond, host, Microsoft
  UTC 117/L2 214 - November 3-7, 2008, Mountain View, host, Google  Annual Members Mtg
  UTC 118/L2 215 - February 2-6, 2009, Mountain View, host Unicode, Members Mtg

Public Review Issue 102 Normalization (B.11.1)

[114-A1] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #15: Unicode Normalization Forms with editorial comments received from public feedback. [L2/08-075]

[114-A2] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to John Cowan that it is not feasible for the UTC or WG2 never to introduce new canonical equivalences, but the UTC will tighten the guidelines for their acceptance. [L2/08-075]

 Stability Normalization and casing (B.16.1) 

[114-C1] Consensus: Adopt in principle the policies on stability for decomposition mapping, canonical combining class, and case pairs that are documented in L2/08-079

[114-A3] Action Item for Mark Davis, Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Edit the proposal on stability policies in L2/08-079 and forward to the officers for approval and posting. 

[114-A3a] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #15: Unicode Normalization Forms to make the text consistent with the new stability policies. See 114-A3. [L2/08-079]

Public Review Issue Issue 103 Text Boundaries (B.11.2)

[114-C2] Consensus: Modify the list of SContinue characters in Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries based on L2/08-029 after verifying canonical and compatibility closure.

[114-A4] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Incorporate consensus 114-C2 to modify the list of SContinue characters in Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries. [L2/08-029]

[114-A5] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update SentenceBreakProperty.txt in the UCD based on document L2/08-029.

114-C3] Consensus: Add definitions D51a and D56a as documented in L2/08-047 to Unicode 5.1 after editorial review.

[114-A6] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update Unicode 5.1 text with D51a and D56a plus other explanatory material from document L2/08-047.

[114-C4] Consensus: Update the definitions D60 and D61 in Chapter 3 for Unicode 5.1, as documented in  L2/08-047 and modified in discussion.

[114-A7] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update the definitions D60 and D61 in Chapter 3 for Unicode 5.1, as documented in L2/08-047 and modified in discussion.

[114-A8] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries for Unicode 5.1 based on the new and changed definitions D51a, D56a, D60, D61. [L2/08-047]

[114-C5] Consensus: Change the text of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries to modify word break behavior so as to break before and after NewLine character sequences. [L2/08-083]

[114-A9] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Change the text of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries to modify word break behavior before and after NewLine character sequences. [L2/08-083]

[114-A10] Action Item for Mark Davis: Modify word break property in the Unicode Character Database as needed based on consensus 114-C5 to modify word break behavior before and after NewLine character sequences. New property value to be called "NewLine" with short name "NL". [L2/08-083]

[114-A11] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update PropertyValueAliases.txt with the new word break value "NewLine" with short name "NL". See also action 114-A10. [L2/08-083]

[114-A12] Action Item for Eric Muller, Editorial Committee: Update Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #42: An XML Representatin of the UCD with the new wordbreak value "NewLine"with short name "NL". See consensus 114-C5 . [L2/08-083]

[114-A13] Action Item for Mark Davis, Andy Heninger: Mark Davis to regenerate fixed boundary tests, and Andy Heninger to verify them. [L2/08-083]

[114-C6] Consensus: There is good editorial feedback in L2/08-072, which should be considered by the Editorial Committee for Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries for Unicode 5.1.

[114-A14] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Consider editorial feedback in L2/08-072 when updating Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries for Unicode 5.1.

[114-C7] Consensus: For Thai, Lao, and Tai Viet define a new Grapheme_Cluster _Break property value called "Prepend" with short name "Pp" and appropriate rules, with the contents to be the characters that have the value "logical order exception" (U+0E40..U+0E44 and U+0EC0..U+0EC4). Add certain other Thai & Lao vowels to grapheme extend (U+0E30, U+0E32, U+0E33, U+0E45, U+0EB0, U+0EB2, U+0EB3).

[114-A15] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update the text of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries for the Grapheme_Cluster _Breakk property value "Prepend" for Thai, Lao, and Tai Viet.

[114-A16] Action Item for Mark Davis: Modify the Grapheme_Cluster _Break property in GraphemeBreakProperty.txt including a new property value "Prepend" with short name "Pp".

[114-A17] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update PropertyValueAliases.txt to reflect the addition of "Prepend". See 114-C7.

[114-A18] Action Item for Eric Muller, Editorial Committee: Update Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #42: An XML Representatin of the UCD with "Prepend" property value alias.

[114-C8] Consensus: In Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries explain the relationship between aksaras and extended grapheme clusters, and why aksaras are not included in extended grapheme clusters.

[114-A18a] Action Item for Mark Davis: In Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries explain the relationship between aksaras and extended grapheme clusters, and why aksaras are not included in extended grapheme clusters.

Public Review Issue 104 Identifier and Pattern Syntax (B.11.3)

[114-A19] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to Michael D'Errico that the Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #31: Identifier and Pattern Syntax already states that identifiers can be tailored, but we will change "precise list of any" to "precise specification of the" in the conformance rules. [L2/08-075]

[114-A20] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update conformance rules of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #31: Identifier and Pattern Syntax, changing "precise list of any" to "precise specification of the" in the conformance rules. See 114-A19. [L2/08-062, L2/08-075]

Public Review Issue 112 Bidirectional Algorithm (B.11.8)

[114-A21] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Incorporate bidi feedback from L2/08-075 into Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #9: Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm for Unicode 5.1. [L2/08-056]

Public Review Issue 113 Collation (B.11.9)

[114-A22] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Address the problem raised in feedback document L2/08-075 on Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #10: Unicode Collation Algorithm.

[114-A23] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to the author of feedback on Public Review Issue #113, review of Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #10: Unicode Collation Algorithm. [L2/08-075]

[114-C9] Consensus: Advance Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #10: Unicode Collation Algorithm to approved Unicode Technical Standard #10: Unicode Collation Algorithm after editorial work and small data fixes for Unicode 5.1. [L2/07-366]

[114-A24] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Mark Davis: Finish the Unicode Collation Algorithm data tables making changes as necessary for Unicode 5.1. [L2/08-075]

Public Review Issue 114 Named Character Sequences (B.11.10)

[114-A25] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #34: Unicode Named Character Sequences with the feedback received in document L2/08-075. [L2/08-063]

[114-A26] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to Arthur Reutenauer regarding Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #34: Unicode Named Character Sequence and his other feedback in document L2/08-075. [L2/08-063]

Public Review Issue 117 Guide to Unihan (B.11.12)

[114-A27] Action Item for Eric Muller: Follow up with John Jenkins and Richard Cook on changes needed to Draft Unicode Standard Annex #38: A User's Guide to the Unihan Database for Unicode 5.1. [L2/08-075, L2/08-064]

Editorial Committee — Unicode 5.1 (B.13.3)

[114-C10] Consensus: Change the bidi category of U+1929 LIMBU SUBJOINED LETTER YA, U+192A LIMBU SUBJOINED LETTER RA, U+192B LIMBU SUBJOINED LETTER WA from NSM to L; and change the general category of U+A802 SYLOTI NAGRI SIGN DVISVARA from Mc to Mn. [L2/08-075]

[114-A28] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update UnicodeData.txt to change the bidi category of U+1929 LIMBU SUBJOINED LETTER YA, U+192A LIMBU SUBJOINED LETTER RA, U+192B LIMBU SUBJOINED LETTER WA from NSM to L; and the general category of U+A802 SYLOTI NAGRI SIGN DVISVARA from Mc to Mn. [L2/08-075]

[114-A29] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Kent Karlsson on his feedback on Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #44: Unicode Character Database. Malayalam was fixed to be consistent. 

[114-A30] Action Item for Michael Everson, Editorial Committee: Examine feedback on a bounding box problem in the font for U+203E OVERLINE in the UCD. [L2/08-075]

[114-A31] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to feedback on U+A789 MODIFIER LETTER COLON and U+A78A MODIFIER LETTER SHORT EQUALS SIGN that there will be no change as these are consistent with treatment of many other characters in the standard that are also labelled "modifier letters".  Also respond that Latin combining letters and U+1DD2 COMBINING US ABOVE will not be changed; comments on the combining classes of U+1DCE COMBINING OGONEK ABOVE and U+1DD0 COMBINING IS BELOW were accepted for Unicode 5.1.

[114-A32] Action Item for Mark Davis, Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #24: Unicode Script Property with an explanation on the use of the script property for combining characters used only with a single script.

[114-C11] Consensus: Change the combining classes of U+1DCE COMBINING OGONEK ABOVE and U+1DD0 COMBINING IS BELOW to 214 and 202 respectively.

[114-A33] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update UnicodeData.txt for Unicode 5.1 to change the combining classes of U+1DCE COMBINING OGONEK ABOVE from 230 to 214; and U+1DD0 COMBINING IS BELOW from 220 to 202.

[114-A34] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update CaseFolding.txt in Unicode 5.1 to correctly handle U+1E9E LATIN CAPITAL LETTER SHARP S.

[114-A35] Action Item for Mark Davis: Change PropList.txt in Unicode 5.1 to remove U+2064 INVISIBLE PLUS from Other_Default_Ignorable.

[114-A36] Action Item for Mark Davis: Insert an empty third field into DerivedNumericValues.txt and update the documentation of the field(s) for Unicode 5.1.

[114-A37] Action Item for Eric Muller, Editorial Committee: Update Malayalam chillu text in 5.1 with Peter Constable's comment regarding "Unicode 5.1 beta: chillus". [L2/08-075]

[114-A38] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update UCD.html to correct the property names. In section "UCD Property Files", in the entry about DerivedNormalizationProps.txt, it mentions NFD_Quick_Check, NFKD_Quick_Check, etc. as property names, whereas the name used in the actual database, and in other places in UCD.html, is in fact NFD_QC, etc. [L2/08-075]

[114-A39] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Øistein E. Andersen that UTC feels Table 3-6 on page 103 in the Unicode 5.0 Standard should not be touched in order to maintain consistency. [L2/08-075]

[114-A40] Action Item for Debbie Anderson: Review the comments on "Hooks and descenders in Abkhaz letters" and respond to the author of the comments. [L2/08-075]

[114-A41] Action Item for Richard Cook, Rick McGowan: Forward the comment on the U+20202 glyph error and the comment on U+214FA to the IRG and appropriate individuals, including John Jenkins. [L2/08-075]

[114-A42] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Debbie Anderson, Editorial Committee: Document the use of U+0313 COMMA ABOVE and U+0314 REVERSE COMMA ABOVE for transliteration of Egyptian. Also document the rendering behavior of U+0485 COMBINING CYRILLIC DASIA PNEUMATA and U+0486 COMBINING CYRILLIC PSILI PNEUMATA. Respond to the author of the comments on these characters. [L2/08-075]


Thursday, February 7, 2008

Administrative Roll Call (A.1)

PRESENT: Adobe Systems, Inc; Apple Computer, Inc; Google Inc.; IBM Corporation; Justsystem Corporation (proxy); Microsoft Corporation; Sun Microsystems, Inc.; Sybase, Inc.; UC Berkeley. 8 full members, 1 institutional member, and 0 supporting members present, 9 total

NOT PRESENT: Basis Technology Corporateion; Denic e.G; Hewlett Packard Company; India, MIT; Monotype Imaging Corporation; Oracle Corporation; Pakistan, NLA; SAP AG; Tamil Nadu, Yahoo! Inc. 5 full members, 3 institutional member not present, and 2 supporting member not present, 9 total

[114-A43] Action Item for Michel Suignard, Editorial Committee: Investigate the current ANSI patent policy to see if there are changes since Unicode adopted it.

Public Review Issue 109 XML Representation of the UCD (B.11.5)

[114-A44] Action Item for Mark Davis: Verify Eric Muller's latest XML version of the UCD.

[114-A45] Action Item for Mark Davis: Formalize mechanically readable Unicode invariants.

[114-A46] Action Item for Eric Muller: Update Proposed Draft Unicode Standard Annex #42: An XML Representation of the UCD with feedback received in the meeting. [L2/08-066, L2/08-075, L2/08-093, L2/08-094]

Public Review Issue 105 Line Breaking (B.11.4)

[114-A47] Action Item for Andy Heninger, Editorial Committee: Clarify, if necessary, that priorities between line breaking opportunities identified by the algorithm are out of scope for Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #14: Line Breaking Properties. [L2/08-022, L2/08-058]

[114-A48] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Martin Hosken that prioritization of line breaking opportunities identified by the algorithm are out of scope for Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #14: Line Breaking Properties. [L2/08-022]

[114-A49] Action Item for Mark Davis, Andy Heninger: Mark Davis will update the line break test generation program, and Andy Heninger verify.  [L2/08-082, L2/08-083, L2/08-090]

[114-A50] Action Item for Peter Edberg: Assemble additional test cases for line break for the next version of Unicode. Ensure adequate coverage of JIS compliance.

Editorial Committee   ISO Comments (B.13.3.1.1) 

[114-A51] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update UnicodeData.txt with ISO comments for 4 Tibetan characters: [L2/08-091]
U+0FCE TIBETAN SIGN RDEL NAG RDEL DKAR
U+0FD2 TIBETAN MARK NYIS TSHEG
U+0FD3 TIBETAN MARK INITIAL BRDA RNYING YIG MGO MDUN MA
U+0FD4 TIBETAN MARK CLOSING BRDA RNYING YIG MGO SGAB MA

Security Issue in C7 (B.17 )

[114-C12] Consensus: Add a note under conformance clause C7 in section 3.2 of the Unicode Standard pointing to Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations for the security issues involved. In section 16-7 of the Unicode Standard change "removal" of non-characters to "replacement" and add a note pointing to Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations. In Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations discuss non-character and normalization issues. [L2/07-415]

[114-A52] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations with the information in document L2/07-415. See consensus 114-C12.

[114-A53] Action Item for Mark Davis, Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Add a note in Unicode 5.1 to C7 in section 3.2 and update section 16.7 changing "removal" to "replacement" and point to Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations. See consensus 114-C12. [L2/07-415]

Public Review Issue 115 Unicode Security Considerations (B.11.11)

[114-C13] Consensus: Take comments on Proposed Update Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations from document L2/08-075 into consideration in the next update.

[114-C14] Consensus: Advance Proposed Update Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations to approved Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations in the Unicode 5.1 timeframe.

[114-A54] Action Item for Mark Davis, Michel Suignard, Editorial Committee: Take comments on Proposed Update Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations from document L2/08-075 into consideration when updating, and post as approved Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations.

Properties Case Gotchas (B.14.3) 

[114-A55] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Clarify the uppercase, lowercase and titlecase issues in an FAQ. [L2/08-026]

[114-A55a] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Add a note to Unicode 5.1 that draws attention to the possible pitfall in uppercase, lowercase and titlecase issues. See 114-A55. [L2/08-026]

[114-A55b] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update the title of the "Why is there no uppercase sharp-s" FAQ page, explain the addition, and change the discussion to reflect the current status.[L2/08-026]

Properties Default Ignorables (B.14.4) 

[114-C15] Consensus: Remove controls (general category = Cc), surrogates, and non-characters from default ignorable. [L2/08-027]

[114-A56] Action Item for Mark Davis, Eric Muller: Change the default ignorable property and derivation in the files UCD.html, PropList.txt, and DerivedCoreProperties.txt. [L2/08-027]

[114-A57] Action Item for Mark Davis, Eric Muller, Editorial Committee: Add text to Unicode 5.1 documenting changes in the default ignorable property. [L2/08-027]

[114-A58] Action Item for Mark Davis, Eric Muller, Editorial Committee: Update the FAQ on default ignorables regarding the default ignorable property. [L2/08-027]

South Asian Subcommittee Malayalam (E.2)

[114-C16] Consensus: Delegate to the members of the South Asian Subcommittee who are voting UTC members the task of finalizing Tables 2, 3, and 4 of Unicode 5.1 and the text pertaining to those tables. If consensus cannot be reached among the voting members, then the chair of the South Asian Subcommittee shall request a UTC letter ballot to decide the issue. The subcommittee chair is to ensure that a written report documenting the decisions is submitted for the L2/UTC document register within a week after the conclusion of the meeting.

[114-A58a] Action Item for Eric Muller: Inform the South Asian Subcommittee of consensus 114-C16 on Malayalam and schedule a meeting as soon as possible.

Technical Reports Math (B.12.1)

[114-C17] Consensus: Post Working Draft Proposed Update Unicode Technical Report #25: Unicode Support for Mathematics as Proposed Update Unicode Technical Report #25: Unicode Support for Mathematics after updating. [L2/08-107]

[114-A59] Action Item for Murray Sargent, Editorial Committee: Post Working Draft Proposed Update Unicode Technical Report #25: Unicode Support for Mathematics as Proposed Update Unicode Technical Report #25: Unicode Support for Mathematics L2/08-107 and diffed version as per above consensus 114-C17. [L2/08-107]

[114-A60] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Create and post a public review issue for Proposed Update Unicode Technical Report #25: Unicode Support for Mathematics to close May 8, 2008. [L2/08-107]

Properties Additional Property Value Aliases (B.14.5)

[114-C18] Consensus: Add to PropertyValueAliases.txt three values: Greek, Combining_Marks_for_Symbols, and Private_Use, with the normal format. [L2/07-405]

[114-A61] Action Item for Mark Davis: Add to PropertyValueAliases.txt the values: Greek, Combining_Marks_For_Symbols, Private_Use, with the normal format for Unicode 5.1. [L2/07-405]

[114-C19] Consensus: Adopt as aliases in PropertyValueAliases.txt: ASCII, Latin-1, and Canadian_Syllabics in the normal format, for Unicode 5.1. [L2/07-405]

[114-A62] Action Item for Mark Davis: Add to PropertyValueAliases.txt the values: ASCII, Latin_1, and Canadian_Syllabics for Unicode 5.1. [L2/07-405]

South Asian Subcommittee Tamil Issues (B.15.2.1.2)

[114-C20] Consensus: Add the Tamil table in L2/08-078 and documentation of it to Unicode 5.1, as amended in the discussion. 

[114-C21] Consensus: Accept the Tamil provisional named sequences as approved for a future version of the standard, and note their status in the text of Unicode 5.1. [L2/08-078]

[114-A63] Action Item for Mark Davis, Julie Allen, Editorial Committee: Add the Tamil table in L2/08-078 as amended to Unicode 5.1 with relevant text, and note the acceptance of Tamil provisional named sequences in the text of Unicode 5.1.

[114-A64] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add the Tamil provisional named sequences to the Pipeline table.

[114-A65] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Request the addition of Tamil provisional named sequences to Clause 29 of 10646.

CJK IVD Update (B.18.6) 

[114-C22] Consensus: Accept the proposed text concerning Ideographic Variation Database (IVD) sequences in L2/08-109 section 2 for a future version of the standard. [L2/08-109]

[114-A66] Action Item for Eric Muller, Editorial Committee: Add text to Chapter 12 of the Unicode Standard on IVD sequences for Unicode 5.1. [L2/08-109]

[114-A67] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Request an update to Clause 20.5 of 10646 regarding IVD sequences. [L2/08-109]

[114-A68] Action Item for Eric Muller, Editorial Committee: Prepare a notice about the new version of the Ideographic Variation Database. Add a pointer to the IVD from the homepage and other appropriate places.

CJK U-Source Ideographs (B.18.3)

[114-C23] Consensus: Advance Working Draft Unicode Technical Report #45: U-Source Ideographs to Draft Unicode Technical Report #45: U-Source Ideographs and post for public review. [L2/08-053]

[114-A69] Action Item for John Jenkins, Editorial Committee: Update Working Draft Unicode Technical Report #45: U-Source Ideographs  and data files and post as Draft Unicode Technical Report #45: U-Source Ideographs. [L2/08-053]

[114-A70] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Create and post a public review issue for Draft Unicode Technical Report #45: U-Source Ideographs to close May 8, 2008. [L2/08-053]

[114-A71] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add a request to reference U-Source ideographs (Unicode Technical Report #45: U-Source Ideographs) to ballot comments for Amendment 5 of 10646. [L2/08-053]

[114-A72] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Update the technical report versions file to cover Working Draft Unicode Technical Report #45: U-Source Ideographs and other recent updates. [L2/08-053]

South Asian Subcommittee Chennai Meeting (B.15.2.1)

[114-C24] Consensus: After hearing the Chennai meeting report and having a preliminary discussion, the UTC resolves to explore avenues for making improvements in the ability of software to support Tamil.

[114-A73] Action Item for Mark Davis: Send an official letter from the Unicode Consortium to the governments of India and Tamil Nadu outlining concrete steps that can be taken to assist in the goal of making improvements in the ability of software to support Tamil.  See consensus 114-C24.


Friday, February 8, 2008

Administrative Roll Call (A.1)

PRESENT: Adobe Systems, Inc; Apple Computer, Inc; Google Inc.; IBM Corporation; Justsystem Corporation (proxy); Microsoft Corporation; Sun Microsystems, Inc.; Sybase, Inc.; UC Berkeley. 8 full members, 1 institutional member, and 0 supporting members present, 9 total

NOT PRESENT: Basis Technology Corporateion; Denic e.G; Hewlett Packard Company; India, MIT; Monotype Imaging Corporation; Oracle Corporation; Pakistan, NLA; SAP AG; Tamil Nadu, Yahoo! Inc. 5 full members, 3 institutional member not present, and 2 supporting member not present, 9 total

South Asian Subcommittee Dandas (B.15.2.2, E.3)

[114-C25] Consensus: Approve section 1 of document L2/08-110 on dandas as amended in discussion, and submit a new document to WG2. 

[114-A74] Action Item for Eric Muller: Submit a document to WG2 on dandas, based on L2/08-110 section 1 as amended in discussion. 

Script Subcommittee Archaic Sinhala Numerals (B.15.1, C.1

[114-C26] Consensus: Based on feedback from scholars and Government of Sri Lanka, remove archaic Sinhala numerals from Amendment 5 of 10646 and consider them for a future amendment pending further investigation. [L2/08-007, L2/08-068, L2/08-111]

[114-A75] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add to ballot comments a request to remove the archaic Sinhala numerals from Amendment 5 of 10646, pending further investigation. [L2/08-007, L2/08-068, L2/08-111]

Script Subcommittee Avestan Separation Point (B.15.1, C.20

[114-A76] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add to ballot comments that we continue to request that U+10B38  AVESTAN SEPARATION POINT be removed from Amendment 5 of 10646. [L2/07-304, L2/08-088, L2/08-111]

Script Subcommittee Tai Tham (B.15.1, C.0.1)

[114-C27] Consensus: Approve the revised Tai Tham chart and nameslist as documented in L2/08-037, with the addition of the two subjoined variants in L2/07-073 at U+1A5D and U+1A5E. [L2/08-073]

[114-A77] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with Tai Tham changes. See consensus 114-C27, L2/08-037, L2/07-073.

[114-A78] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add Tai Tham changes to ballot comments on amendment 5. See consensus 114-C27, L2/08-037, L2/07-073.

WG2 Amendment 5 FDAM (B.1.4.3

[114-M1] Motion: Remove the 4 compatibility characters for Japanese television from Amendment 5 and use variation selectors instead: [L2/08-010]
U+FA6B CJK COMPATIBILITY IDEOGRAPH-FA6B
U+FA6C CJK COMPATIBILITY IDEOGRAPH-FA6C
U+FA6D  CJK COMPATIBILITY IDEOGRAPH-FA6D
U+FA6E CJK COMPATIBILITY IDEOGRAPH-FA6E

Moved by Eric Muller, seconded by Ken Whistler

8 for (Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Sun, Sybase, UCB, Yahoo)
1 against (Microsoft)
1 abstain (JustSystem)

Motion carried

[114-A79] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add comments consistent with motion 114-M1 to request removal of 4 compatibility characters for Japanese television (U+FA6B..U+FA6E) to ballot comments on Amendment 5 of 10646. 

[114-C28] Consensus: The unresolved conflicting information for KangXi sources must be resolved before Amendment 5 progresses.

[114-A80] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add a request to resolve KangXi sources to ballot comments on Amendment 5 of 10646. The source information must be resolved before Amendment 5 progresses. See consensus 114-C28.

[114-A81] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Update the text of Amendment 5 to correct "U source / Unicode" to "J source / KangXi" in the table on page 5. Add this change to ballot comments on Amendment 5 of 10646.

[114-C28a] Consensus:  Correct the names of 3 Hangul characters as approved by prior WG2 resolution:
U+11FD HANGUL JONGSEONG KIYEOK-KHIEUK => U+11FD HANGUL JONGSEONG KIYEOK-KHIEUKH
U+A96E HANGUL CHOSEONG RIEUL-KHIEUK => U+A96E HANGUL CHOSEONG RIEUL-KHIEUKH
U+A973 HANGUL CHOSEONG PIEUP-KHIEUK => U+A973 HANGUL CHOSEONG PIEUP-KHIEUKH

[114-A82] Action Item for Michel Suignard: Add a request to correct the names of 3 Hangul characters (U+11FD, U+A96E, U+A973, as approved by prior WG2 resolution) to ballot comments on Amendment 5 of 10646.

South Asian Subcommittee Vedic (B.15.2.2, E.1)

[114-C29] Consensus: Accept 23 Vedic characters for encoding in a future version of the standard with properties and moves of code assignments of other previously accepted Vedic characters as given in sections 3.1, 3.2, 3.4...3.12 of document L2/08-110:
U+094E DEVANAGARI VOWEL SIGN PRISHTHAMATRA E
U+1CE0 VEDIC TONE RIGVEDIC KASHMIRI INDEPENDENT SVARITA
U+1CD0 VEDIC TONE KARSHANA
U+1CD1 VEDIC TONE SHARA
U+1CD2 VEDIC SIGN PRENKHA
U+1CD3 VEDIC SIGN NIHSHVASA
U+1CD9 VEDIC TONE YAJURVEDIC KATHAKA INDEPENDENT SVARITA SCHROEDER
U+1CE2 VEDIC SIGN VISARGA SVARITA
U+1CE3 VEDIC SIGN VISARGA UDATTA
U+1CE4 VEDIC SIGN REVERSED VISARGA UDATTA
U+1CE5 VEDIC SIGN VISARGA ANUDATTA
U+1CE6 VEDIC SIGN REVERSED VISARGA ANUDATTA
U+1CE7 VEDIC SIGN VISARGA UDATTA WITH TAIL
U+1CE8 VEDIC SIGN VISARGA ANUDATTA WITH TAIL
U+1CF1 VEDIC SIGN ARDHAVISARGA
U+0900 DEVANAGARI SIGN INVERTED CANDRABINDU
U+A8F2 DEVANAGARI SIGN SPACING CANDRABINDU
U+1CEE VEDIC SIGN HEXIFORM LONG ANUSVARA
U+1CEF VEDIC SIGN LONG ANUSVARA
U+1CF0 VEDIC SIGN RTHANG LONG ANUSVARA
U+0973 DEVANAGARI SIGN PUSHPIKA
U+0974 DEVANAGARI CARET
U+1CED VEDIC SIGN TIRYAK

[114-M2] Motion: Accept 18 Samavedic letters and digits for encoding in a future version of the standard, with annotations as given in section 3.3 of document L2/08-110:
U+A8E0 COMBINING DEVANAGARI DIGIT ZERO
U+A8E1 COMBINING DEVANAGARI DIGIT ONE
U+A8E2 COMBINING DEVANAGARI DIGIT TWO
U+A8E3 COMBINING DEVANAGARI DIGIT THREE
U+A8E4 COMBINING DEVANAGARI DIGIT FOUR
U+A8E5 COMBINING DEVANAGARI DIGIT FIVE
U+A8E6 COMBINING DEVANAGARI DIGIT SIX
U+A8E7 COMBINING DEVANAGARI DIGIT SEVEN
U+A8E8 COMBINING DEVANAGARI DIGIT EIGHT
U+A8E9 COMBINING DEVANAGARI DIGIT NINE
U+A8EA COMBINING DEVANAGARI LETTER A
U+A8EB COMBINING DEVANAGARI LETTER U
U+A8EC COMBINING DEVANAGARI LETTER KA
U+A8ED COMBINING DEVANAGARI LETTER NA
U+A8EE COMBINING DEVANAGARI LETTER PA
U+A8EF COMBINING DEVANAGARI LETTER RA
U+A8F0 COMBINING DEVANAGARI LETTER VI
U+A8F1 COMBINING DEVANAGARI SIGN AVAGRAHA

Moved by Ken Whistler, seconded by Deborah Anderson

6 for (Apple, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, UCB)
2 against (Adobe, Google)
1 abstain (JustSystem)

Motion carried

[114-A83] Action Item for Ken Whister: Update the pipeline with the 41 Vedic characters accepted in consensus 114-C29 and motion 114-M2. [L2/08-110]

[114-A84] Action Item for Peter Scharf, Michael Everson: Update the Vedic proposal document L2/08-050 with recommendations from L2/08-110 and submit to WG2. See consensus 114-C29 and motion 114-M2.

Public Review Issue 105 Line Break (B.11.4) 

[114-C30] Consensus: Retract rule LB30 in Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #14: Unicode Line Breaking Algorithm, and add an informative note about parentheses. [L2/08-112, L2/08-113]

[114-A85] Action Item for Andy Heninger, Editorial Committee: Include removal of  the rule LB30 to changes for Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #14: Unicode Line Breaking Algorithm for Unicode 5.1and add an informative note about parentheses. [L2/08-112, L2/08-113]

[114-A86] Action Item for Andy Heninger: Develop a proposal for handling the "( )" cases after Unicode 5.1. [L2/08-113]

Public Review Issue 104 Pattern Syntax (B.11.3.1.2) 

[114-C31] Consensus: Approve the recommendations in L2/08-108, the first two of which are for Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #31: Identifier and Pattern Syntax in Unicode 5.1. The third is a request for the officers to add a stability policy for the General_Category values Private_Use, Surrogate, and Control, confirming that they are immutable.

[114-A87] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #31: Identifier and Pattern Syntax for Unicode 5.1 based on points 1 and 2 in document L2/08-108.

[114-A88] Action Item for Mark Davis: Ask the officers to add a stability policy for the General_Category values Private_Use, Surrogate, and Control, confirming that they are immutable in the 5.1 timeframe. [L2/08-108]

[114-A89] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Draft text for new/updated stability policies confirming that the General_Category values Private_Use, Surrogate, and Control are immutable for the officers to review. [L2/08-108]

Editorial Committee — Unicode 5.1 (B.13.3)

[114-C32] Consensus: Advance the proposed update Unicode Standard Annexes to approved Unicode Standard Annexes for Unicode 5.1:
Unicode Standard Annex #9: Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm
Unicode Standard Annex #11: East Asian Width
Unicode Standard Annex #14: Unicode Line Breaking Algorithm
Unicode Standard Annex #15: Unicode Normalization Forms
Unicode Standard Annex #24: Script Names
Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries
Unicode Standard Annex #31: Identifier and Pattern Syntax
Unicode Standard Annex #34: Unicode Named Character Sequences
Unicode Standard Annex #38: A User's Guide to the Unihan Database
Unicode Standard Annex #41: Common References for Unicode Standard Annexes
Unicode Standard Annex #42: An XML Representation of the UCD
Unicode Standard Annex #44: Unicode Character Database

[114-A90] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close all the Unicode Standard Annex public review issues for 5.1, and close the public review issues for Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations and Unicode Technical Standard #10: Unicode Collation Algorithm.

[114-C33] Consensus: Approve Unicode 5.1 for release.

[114-A91] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Release Unicode 5.1 targetting the end of March 2008.

[114-A92] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Release the Unicode Collation Algorithm 5.1 targetting the end of March 2008.

Script Subcommittee Livre Tournois Sign (B.15.1, C.2)

[114-C34] Consensus: Accept U+20B6 LIVRE TOURNOIS SIGN for encoding in a future version of the standard. [L2/07-332]

[114-A93] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Forward the proposal to encode the Livre Tournois sign a proposal with summary form to WG2, and reply to the author. [L2/07-332]

Script Subcommittee Old South Arabian (B.15.1, C.3.1) 

[114-C35] Consensus: Accept 32 Old South Arabian characters for encoding in a future version of the standard, in a new block "Old South Arabian",  at U+10A80..U+10A9F. [L2/08-044]

[114-A94] Action Item for Kamal Mansour: Forward the proposal to encode the Old South Arabian scritp to WG2. [L2/08-044]

Script Subcommittee Javanese (B.15.1, C.21)  

[114-C36] Consensus: Accept 91 Javanese characters for encoding in a future version of the standard, in a new block "Javanese" at U+A980..U+A9DF. [L2/08-015]

[114-A95] Action Item for Michael Everson: Modify the Javanese proposal to use a 6 column block rather than an 8-column block, and submit the updated document. [L2/08-015]

Script Subcommittee Old Turkic (B.15.1, C.16) 

[114-A96] Action Item for Eric Muller, Debbie Anderson: Draft a document for WG2 to request that user communities be specifically called out in new script proposals. [L2/08-071]

Script Subcommittee  Kana (B.15.1, C.17)  

[114-A97] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Prepare a contribution to WG2 suggesting that the Japanese national body provide comments on document L2/07-421, and forward the document to WG2. [L2/07-421]

Script Subcommittee Samaritan (B.15.1, C.13)  

[114-C37] Consensus: Accept 61 Samaritan characters for encoding in a future version of the standard, in a new block "Samaritan" at U+0800..U+083F. [L2/08-024]

Script Subcommittee Subscript Ten (B.15.1, C.15)  

[114-C38] Consensus: Accept U+23E8 DECIMAL EXPONENT SYMBOL for encoding in a future version of the standard, and annotate its use in Algol-60 and in support of the GOST 10859-64 standard. [L2/08-030]

[114-A98] Action Item for Leo Broukhis, Rick McGowan: Update the proposal to encode U+23E8 DECIMAL EXPONENT SYMBOL and forward to WG2. [L2/08-030]

Script Subcommittee Lisu (B.15.1, C.12.1) 

[114-C39] Consensus: Accept 48 Lisu characters for encoding in a future version of the standard, in a new block "Lisu" at U+A4D0..U+A4FF. Use "Lisu" rather than "Old Lisu" as the script name. [L2/08-019]

Script Subcommittee Kaithi (B.15.1, C.7) 

[114-C40] Consensus: Accept 71 Kaithi characters for encoding in a future version of the standard, in a new block "Kaithi" at U+11080..U+110CF. [L2/07-418]

[114-A99] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Forward the Kaithi proposal to WG2. [L2/07-418]

[114-A99a] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Send Anshuman Pandey's Kaithi font to Michael Everson for use with publication.

Script Subcommittee Unfinished Agenda Items (B.15.1) 

[114-A100] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Lisa Moore: Put the following script items on the agenda for the next UTC meeting:
C.4 Proposal to encode the Mandaic script [Everson, L2/07-412]
C.8 Proposal to encode the Takri script [Pandey, L2/07-419]
C.9.1 Proposal to encode Brahmi [Glass, Baums, L2/07-342]
C.9.2 Scripts on roadmap covered by Brahmi encoding [Glass, Baums, L2/07-406]
C.10 Proposal to encode Sharada [SEI/Pandey, L2/08-017]
C.14 Proposal to encode Manichaean [SEI/Everson, L2/08-025]

Script Subcommittee Batak (B.15.1, C.11) 

[114-A101] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Communicate comments and follow-up actions to Michael Everson on the Batak proposal.  [L2/08-011]

Script Subcommittee  Rumi Numeral Symbols (B.15.1, C.23)

[114-C41] Consensus: Accept 31 Rumi numeral symbols at U+10E60..U+10E7E for encoding in a future version of the standard in a new block "Rumi Symbols" at U+10E60..U+10E7F, with names and properties as given in L2/07-235.  [L2/07-235, L2/06-291]

[114-A102] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Work with the author Azzeddine Lazrek to update the Rumi proposal L2/06-291 including properties as specified in L2/07-235 and forward to WG2. 

[114-A103] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline for characters accepted as part of the Scripts Subcommittee topics in consensi 114-C34 through 114-C41.

Public Review Issue 111 Regular Expressions (B.11.7) 

[114-C42] Consensus: Update Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #18: Unicode Regular Expressions based on L2/08-114 and extend public review to May 8, 2008.

[114-A104] Action Item for Mark Davis, Andy Heninger, Editorial Committee: Update Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #18: Unicode Regular Expressions and post for public review.

[114-A105] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Extend all open public review issues that have not been explicitly closed in this meeting to May 8, 2008.

Properties Deprecated characters (B.14.2) 

[114-A106] Action Item for Mark Davis, Peter Edberg: Prepare a proposal on deprecated characters for the next UTC meeting. [L2/08-018]

Properties Egyptological Yod (B.14.6.1) 

[114-C43] Consensus: The UTC supports the position on  Egyptological Yod  in L2/08-087.

[114-A107] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Prepare a UTC/L2 position paper on Egyptological Yod based on L2/08-087 and forward the document to WG2. See consensus 114-C43



UTC Attendance

Person                                 Representing         E-mail Address
Deborah Anderson U C Berkeley dwanders@sonic.net
E. K. Bharat Bhushan Gov't of India bharatbhushan@mit.gov.in
Leo Broukhis Self leob@mailcom.com
Peter Constable Microsoft petercon@microsoft.com
Doug Davidson Apple drd@apple.com
Mark Davis Google mark.davis@google.com
J. B. Disanayaka Sri Lanka jbdisanayaka@yahoo.com
Peter Edberg Apple pedburg@apple.com
Andy Heninger Google aheninger@google.com
Ned Holbrook Apple ned@apple.com
Aki Inoue Apple aki@apple.com
Cibu Johny Google cibu@google.com
Michael Kaplan Microsoft michka@microsoft.com
Tatsuo Kobayashi Justsystem tlk@kobysh.com
Mike Ksar Unicode mikeksar@10646.com
Chris Little Self chrislit@crosswire.org
Kamal Mansour Monotype kamal.mansour@monotypeimaging.com
Rick McGowan Unicode rick@unicode.org
Kat Momoi Google momoi@google.com
Lisa Moore IBM lisam@us.ibm.com
Eric Muller Adobe emuller@adobe.com
Umesh Nair Google umesh@google.com
Roozbeh Pournader Self roozbeh@gmail.com
Murray Sargent Microsoft murrays@microsoft.com
Peter Scharf Brown University peter_scharf@brown.edu
Markus Scherer Google mscherer@google.com
Michel Suignard Microsoft michelsu@microsoft.com
Ienup Sung Sun is@sun.com
Ken Whistler Sybase kenw@sybase.com
     
By Phone
Adrian Cheuk China adrian_cheuk@sil.org
Michael Everson Evertype everson@evertype.com
Lorna Priest SIL lorna_priest@sil.org
Tex Texin Yahoo! tex@yahoo-inc.com

Members Represented

  Feb 5         Feb 6   Feb 7   Feb 8  
Full        
1. Adobe Systems, Inc. yes yes yes yes
2. Apple, Inc. yes yes yes yes
3. Denic e. G. no no no no
4. Google, Inc. yes yes yes yes
5. Hewlett Packard no no no no
6. IBM Corporation yes yes yes yes
7. JustSystem Corporation yes yes(proxy) yes(proxy) yes(proxy)
8. Microsoft Corporation yes yes yes yes
9. Oracle Corporation no no no no
10. SAP AG no no no no
11. Sun Microsystems, Inc. yes yes yes yes
12. Sybase, Inc. yes yes yes yes
13. Yahoo! no no no no
         
Institutional        
1. India, MIT yes no no no
2. Pakistan, NLA no no no no
3. Tamil Nadu, Gov't no no no no
4. UC Berkeley yes yes yes yes
         
Supporting        
1. Basis Technology Corp. no no no no
2. Monotype Imaging Corp. yes no no no