Pre-Preliminary Minutes of the UTC 123 / L2 220 Joint Meeting
San Jose, CA -- May 10-14, 2010
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UTC #123 Agenda
Revision date: August 26, 2010
Monday, May 10, 2010
Roll call
7 full in regular attendance
2 inst in regular attendance
total:
9
Quorum is 5.
8 Members represented: Adobe, Apple, MS, IBM, Sybase, UCB, Google(proxy), Yahoo(proxy)
A.5.2 AI Review
August 2, 2010 is the next PRI close date. Ken will update close dates.
New agenda items:
B.11.3 UTR #45 update:
E.4 Follow up on Bengali yaphalaa
Calendar update: tentative UTC #127 / L2 #224 - May 9-13, 2011.
Lunch 11:45 - 12:40
B.7 UC Berkeley Department of Linguistics - Script Encoding Initiative
B.7.1 Liaison report [Anderson, L2/10-172]
Brief report from Deborah Anderson.
B.10 Push all UAX and UTS #10 review dates to August 2.
[123-A1] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Update all of the open UAX review dates, and the UTS #10 review date, to August 2, 2010.
Closed out some agenda items related to open PRIs for which no feedback was received in L2/10-112.
B.1.1.4 Consent docket [Whistler, L2/10-149]
[123-C1] Consensus: Change the block name for Miscellaneous Pictographic Symbols to Miscellaneous Symbols and Pictographs (1F300 - 1F5FF).
[123-C2] Consensus: Accept two name changes:
from U+1F471 WESTERN PERSON to U+1F471 PERSON WITH BLOND HAIR
and
from U+1F4A7 DROP OF WATER to U+1F4A7 DROPLET
[123-C3] Consensus: Reconfirm the encoding of 63 emoticon symbols in the Emoticons block, with the revised code points, names, and glyphs as shown in document L2/10-135.
[123-C4] Consensus: Recommendation: Approve 222 CJK Unified Ideographs in the range U+2B740..U+2B81D, in a new block, CJK Unified Ideographs Extension D, U+2B740..U+2B81F, with glyphs and sources as shown in the multi-column chart in FDAM 8, with additional glyph and source changes approved by WG2.
[123-C5] Consensus: Accept the revised names, code points, and glyph changes for the four Typikon symbols:
A698 TYPIKON SYMBOL GREAT FEAST
A699 TYPIKON SYMBOL VIGIL SERVICE
A69A TYPIKON SYMBOL POLYELEOS
A69B TYPIKON SYMBOL LOWER RANK
to:
1F540 CIRCLED CROSS POMMY
1F541 CROSS POMMY WITH HALF-CIRCLE BELOW
1F542 CROSS POMMY
1F543 NOTCHED LEFT SEMICIRCLE WITH THREE DOTS
[123-C6] Consensus: Accept the three Sundanese revised names for 1CC4, 1CC5, 1CC7:
1CC4 SUNDANESE PUNCTUATION KA SATANGA
1CC5 SUNDANESE PUNCTUATION BA SATANGA
1CC7 SUNDANESE PUNCTUATION LEU SATANGA
becomes:
1CC4 SUNDANESE PUNCTUATION LEU SATANGA
1CC5 SUNDANESE PUNCTUATION KA SATANGA
1CC7 SUNDANESE PUNCTUATION BA SATANGA
[123-C7] Consensus: Accept 7 character additions, with properties as documented in L2/10-072:
10C7 GEORGIAN CAPITAL LETTER YN
10CD GEORGIAN CAPITAL LETTER AEN
10FD GEORGIAN LETTER AEN
10FE GEORGIAN LETTER HARD SIGN
10FF GEORGIAN LETTER LABIAL SIGN
2D27 GEORGIAN SMALL LETTER YN
2D2D GEORGIAN SMALL LETTER AEN
[123-C8] Consensus: Approve the addition of 2 CJK Compatibility Ideographs, at FA2E -> 90DE and FA2F -> 96B7 and with canonical mappings as shown, with appropriate annotations.s
[123-C9] Consensus: When encoding a new compatibility character whose intent is to replace the mapping function of an existing CJK compatibility character, annotate both characters in the names list.
[123-A2] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add an annotation to U+FAD4.
[123-C10] Consensus: Accept 128 Miao characters for the Miao script, in the ranges U+16F00..U+16F41 and U+16F50..U+16F8D, in a new block "Miao" with the range U+16F00..U+16F8F, with glyphs, names, code points, and properties as shown in L2/10-093.
[123-C11] Consensus: Accept 143 Arabic math symbols, in a new Arabic Mathematical Alphabetic Symbols with the range U+1EE00..U+1EEFF, with glyphs, names, code points, and properties as shown in L2/10-105.
[123-A3] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Reflect synchronization updates in the pipeline, items B through K on the WG2 consent docket L2/10-149. For B through E, make 6.0 data file changes as well.
Yahoo arrived, 9 members present.
B.10.14 Issue 167: Combined registration of the Hanyo-Denshi collection and of sequences in that collection
B.10.14.1.2 Feedback L2/10-196 [Lunde]
B.10.14.2 Document for review [L2/10-189]
[123-C12] Consensus: Change UTS #37 so that we (1) require one or more representative glyphs for each proposed sequence from the registrant; (2) we allow the registrant to add additional glyphs to an existing registered collection; (3) we allow sequences to be in multiple collections by agreement of all registrants; (4) we describe a process in the standard that encourages registrants to avoid duplication.
[123-A4] Action Item for Eric Muller: Create a working draft for UTS #37 that incorporates the above consensus 123-C12.
B.11.2.1 Proposal to Extend the Scope of Variations Allowed Under UTS 37 [Jenkins, L2/10-175]
[123-A5] Action Item for John Jenkins: Take the proposed set of registration sequences from 109-A40 and submit to IRG as FYI, and seek China's participation in extending the registration. See document L2/10-175.
B.11.3 UTR #45
B.11.3.1 Working Draft Proposed Update UTR #45: U-Source Ideographs [Jenkins, L2/10-198]
[123-C13] Consensus: Advance working draft PU UTR #45 to approved.
[123-A6] Action Item for John Jenkins, Editorial Committee: Update PU UTR #45 and post as approved.
B.10.15 Issue 168: Proposal for two new provisional properties for characters in Indic scripts
B.10.15.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-112]
B.10.15.2 Document for review [L2/10-190]
B.10.15.3 Background document [Whistler, L2/10-056]
[123-C14] Consensus: Restructure IndicProps.txt into two data files with one file per property and post for 6.0 beta review as provisional properties. Add values using title casing.
[123-A7] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Restructure the 2 Indic properties data files and post as provisional for 6.0 beta review, and use title casing for the values. Add wording to the effect that even if these properties change status from provisional to approved, the property values may change over time.
Adjourned for the day at 6:00.
Day 2, Tuesday, May 11, 2010
Meeting opened at 9:45 am.
B.10.15 Issue 168: Proposal for two new provisional properties for characters in Indic scripts
B.10.15.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-112]
B.10.15.2 Document for review [L2/10-190]
B.10.15.3 Background document [Whistler, L2/10-056]
[123-A8] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Srivas thanking him for his input on PRI #168. L2/10-112.
[123-A9] Action Item for Ken Whistler: In the Indic props table, add Kaithi values, and change bindi to bindu. Respond to Sharma re his feedback on PRI #168.
[123-A10] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Make changes according to discussion of PRI #168 feedback from Gihan Dias.
[123-A11] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add an annotation for 0B83 to the Indic props table.
[123-A12] Action Item for Ken Whistler, V S Umamaheswaran, Peter Constable: Draft text to better explain Indic matra placement. See L2/10-112, feedback on PRI #168.
[123-A13] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Change 0BC1, 0BC2 to "bottom variable" in the Indic props table.
[123-A14] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add a category "invisible" and add the viramas that are rendered as invisible (CCC=9) to the Indic props table.
Short break.
B.9 Unicode Locales Project (CLDR)
B.9.1 Liaison report [Davis]
Oral report by Mark Davis, and discussion.
Lunch 11:40 - 12:40
B.10.15.2 Document for review [L2/10-190]
[123-A15] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Remove "display" as the scope of the properties and focus on segmentation and syllabic structure as potential scope for these properties.
[123-A16] Action Item for Mark Davis: Discuss the items mentioned in Karl Pentzlin's feedback on UTR #36 (L2/10-112) in the next possible version.
[123-A17] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Karl Pentzlin thanking him for feedback and mentioning it will be considered by the editor of UTR #36.
B.6.2 MathML liaison report [Sargent]
Oral report by Murray Sargent.
B.12 Editorial Committee
B.12.2 Editorial Committee report [Whistler]
B.12.3 Unicode 6.0
B.12.4 Other Editorial topics
[123-C15] Consensus: UTC endorses the decision by the Editorial Committee to identify technical reports by "Editor" rather than "Author" in the header.
B.1.1.4.3 Final proposal for encoding the Miao script (WG2 N3789) [China, et. al., L2/10-093]
[123-C16] Consensus: For Miao, request the following changes to Miao names in our ballot comments re L2/10-093:
U+16F54 - U+16F7C : Change from "letter" to "vowel sign" in all the names;
U+16F51 - U+16F53 : Change from "letter" to "sign" in all the names;
U+16F7D - U+16F80 : Remove the word "letter" from all the names.
[123-A18] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Include name changes for Miao characters in ballot comments for the CD for the 3rd Edition. See above consensus 123-C16
C.13.1 Proposal to encode Latin Capital Letter H with Hook [Priest, L2/10-166]
[123-C17] Consensus: Accept U+A7AA Latin Capital Letter H With Hook, with case pair to U+0266, and properties as given in L2/10-166, for encoding in a future version of the standard.
[123-A19] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to reflect acceptance of U+A7AA Latin Capital Letter H With Hook as given in L2/10-166.
[123-A20] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+A7AA Latin Capital Letter H With Hook to document requesting future additions.
[123-A21] Action Item for Lorna Priest: Provide a font to Michel Suignard, and submit the proposal to WG2.
[123-A22] Action Item for Lorna Priest: Submit a new document with additional information on additional annotation, casing relations, for U+0266. Refer to L2/10-166.
C.6 Proposal to add two Tifinagh characters for vowels in Tuareg language variants [Anderson, L2/10-096]
[123-A23] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Follow up with Paul Anderson asking for more specific examples and info following up on his document L2/10-113.
[123-C18] Consensus: Accept U+2D66 TIFINAGH LETTER YE and U+2D67 TIFINAGH LETTER YO for encoding in a future version of the standard, with properties as given in L2/10-096.
[123-A24] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to reflect acceptance of U+2D66 TIFINAGH LETTER YE and U+2D67 TIFINAGH LETTER YO with properties as given in L2/10-096.
[123-A25] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Work with Paul Anderson to get font and submit the document to WG2 (with proposal summary form) for the two new Tifinagh characters. Let him know proposal was accepted.
[123-A26] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+2D66 TIFINAGH LETTER YE and U+2D67 TIFINAGH LETTER YO with properties as given in L2/10-096 to document requesting future additions.
C.25.1 Proposal to encode a Florin currency symbol (WG2 N3588) [Pentzlin, L2/09-113]
C.25.2 Additional notes on the Florin symbol [Pentzlin, L2/10-163]
[123-C19] Consensus: Add the florin sign to our archive of notices of non-approval.
[123-A27] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Send a note to Karl Pentzlin re L2/09-113 and L2/10-163 thanking him for his thoroughly documented proposal.
[123-A27a] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add florin currency symbol to notices of nonapproval.
C.24 Proposal to encode a punctuation mark "Double Hyphen" [Pentzlin, L2/10-162]
[123-C20] Consensus: Create a PRI for adding an annotation to U+2E17 DOUBLE OBLIQUE HYPHEN indicating that it may appear in either an oblique or horizontal form.
[123-A28] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Create a PRI text and post to close August 2, 2010, to say that the UTC is considering adding an annotation to U+2E17 DOUBLE OBLIQUE HYPHEN may appear in either an oblique or horizontal form.
[123-A29] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Karl Pentzlin re his proposal L2/10-162 (PRI) and L2/10-161 (accepted).
C.23 Proposal to encode two missing modifier letters for extended IPA [Pentzlin, L2/10-161]
[123-C21] Consensus: Accept U+A7F8 MODIFIER LETTER CAPITAL H WITH STROKE and U+A7F9 MODIFIER LETTER SMALL LIGATURE OE for encoding in a future version of the standard with properties as given in L2/10-161.
[123-A30] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+A7F8 MODIFIER LETTER CAPITAL H WITH STROKE and U+A7F9 MODIFIER LETTER SMALL LIGATURE OE with properties as given in L2/10-161. (This is about adding U+A7F8 and U+A7F9 to the pipeline.)
[123-A31] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Get the font for U+A7F8 MODIFIER LETTER CAPITAL H WITH STROKE and U+A7F9 MODIFIER LETTER SMALL LIGATURE OE from Michael or make it.
[123-A32] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+A7F8 MODIFIER LETTER CAPITAL H WITH STROKE and U+A7F9 MODIFIER LETTER SMALL LIGATURE OE to document requesting future additions.
C.22 Proposal to encode two Letterlike Symbols for Canadian legal use [Pentzlin, L2/10-079]
[123-M1] Motion: Accept two new characters U+1F16A RAISED MC SIGN and U+1F16B RAISED MD SIGN in a future version of the standard with properties and annotations as documented in L2/10-079.
Moved by Eric Muller, seconded by V S Umamaheswaran
5 for (Apple, MS IBM, UCB, Yahoo)
0 against ()
3 abstain (Sybase, Google, Adobe)
Motion carries.
[123-A33] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to reflect two new characters U+1F16A RAISED MC SIGN and U+1F16B RAISED MD SIGN as documented in L2/10-079.
[123-A34] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Get the font from Karl or make a font for U+1F16A RAISED MC SIGN and U+1F16B RAISED MD SIGN.
[123-A35] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Karl Pentzlin and previous proposer (see doc L2/09-035). Karl can forward to WG2.
[123-A36] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+1F16A RAISED MC SIGN and U+1F16B RAISED MD SIGN as documented in L2/10-079 to document requesting future additions.
B.13.1.1 Emoji sources (WG2 N3835) [Scherer, L2/10-150]
[123-A37] Action Item for Markus Scherer, Editorial Committee: Update the annotation material and name of the emoji sources data file to match the conventions used by other data files in the UCD. See Linebreak.txt for examples of format.
[123-A38] Action Item for Eric Muller: Update UAX #42 with the emoji data sources for version 6.0.
[123-C22] Consensus: Name the emoji source data file "EmojiSources.txt" and put it in the top level of the UCD directory. See L2/10-150.
[123-A39] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Add EmojiSources.txt to the components list for Unicode 6.0.
B.10.15.2 Document for review [L2/10-190] [INDIC]
[123-C23] Consensus: Name the new Indic properties data files "IndicSyllabicCategory.txt" and "IndicMatraCategory.txt"; add them in the top level of the UCD directory; and change the name of the MatraPlacement property to IndicMatraCategory. See L2/10-190.
[123-A40] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Add the two provisional Indic properties files to the components list for Unicode 6.0.
[123-A41] Action Item for Eric Muller: Update UAX #42 with the provisional Indic properties.
[123-C24] Consensus: Property Value and Property Value Aliases will not contain provisional properties.
[123-A42] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update UAX #44 to include the new policy above re provisional properties.
Added new agenda item B.10.9.3 Format of NamedSequences file.
[123-A43] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add text to the NamedSequences.txt header indicating what the ISO format is.
Meeting adjourned for the day at 6:00.
Day 3, Wednesday, May 12, 2010
Meeting opened at 9:53 am
8 members represented: Sybase, MS, Adobe, Apple(proxy), Yahoo(proxy), IBM, UCB, Google(proxy)
D.1 Grantha
D.1.1 A note on Grantha OM Sign and only two kinds of virama in Grantha [Ganesan, L2/10-062]
D.1.2 Proposal to encode Grantha chillu marker sign [Ganesan, L2/10-154]
D.1.3 Feedback on Dr. Anderson's Grantha Summary dt 2010 Jan 28 [Sharma, L2/10-085]
Naga Ganesan on the phone. Long discussion.
[123-A44] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Deborah Anderson: Add Grantha Chillu Marker and Grantha Om Sign to a revised version of L2/10-071. See L2/10-167. (Try to have a well-prepared proposal for approval at the August UTC.)
C.11 Proposal to include Duployan Shorthands and Chinook script [Anderson, L2/10-159]
Long discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
Apple is now present. 12:30.
C.18 Linear A [Everson, L2/10-171]
[123-C25] Consensus: Accept 389 Linear A characters at U+10600 to U+10789 with block Linear A U+10600 - U+1079F, with properties as documented in L2/10-171R, for encoding in a future version of the standard.
[123-A45] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with 389 Linear A characters at U+10600 to U+10789 with block Linear A U+10600 - U+1079F as documented in L2/10-171R.
[123-A46] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add 389 Linear A characters at U+10600 to U+10789 with block Linear A U+10600 - U+1079F as documented in L2/10-171R to document requesting future additions.
[123-A46a] Action Item for Michael Everson: Provide an updated Linear A font to Michel Suignard for publication.
Monotype is now present.
C.19 Preliminary proposal to encode the Old North Arabian script (WG2 N3773R) [SEI/Everson, L2/10-074]
[123-C26] Consensus: Accept 32 Old North Arabian characters at U+10A80 - U+10A9F with block name Old North Arabian U+10A80 - U+10A9F with properties as given in L2/10-074R for encoding in a future version of the standard.
[123-A47] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to reflect 32 Old North Arabian characters at U+10A80 - U+10A9F with block name Old North Arabian U+10A80 - U+10A9F as given in L2/10-074R.
[123-A48] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add 32 Old North Arabian characters at U+10A80 - U+10A9F with block name Old North Arabian U+10A80 - U+10A9F with properties as given in L2/10-074R to document requesting future additions.
C.20 Bassa Vah [Everson, L2/10-170]
Long discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
C.5 Preliminary proposal for encoding the Kpelle script (WG2 N3762) [Everson, L2/10-063]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
B.13.2 Problems with the joining behavior of Arabic Letter Yeh Barree (U+06D2) [Mansour, L2/10-168]
[123-A49] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Kamal Mansour, Editorial Committee: Update section 8.2 to explain how to deal with the need for representing "medial" of Yeh Barree in text. L2/10-168.
B.13.3 Shaping Behavior of U+0777 [Mansour, L2/10-158]
[123-A50] Action Item for Kamal Mansour, Editorial Committee: Suggest clarifying text in section 8.2 of TUS 5.2 pp 248-249 regarding Yeh and Farsi Yeh joining groups. L2/10-168. See also L2/09-146.
C.2.4 Questions on new proposal [Priest]
Discussion of Arabic tones for an Asian language. UTC took no action at this time.
C.2.5 Arabic math [Pournader, L2/10-105]
Discussion of L2/10-105.
Yahoo is now present. 3:00.
Now 9.5 members represented. Quorum is still 5.
[123-C27] Consensus: Change the general category of the Arabic math alphabetics to "Lo" U+1EE00 through U+1EEBB and give them a font decomposition, and also assign them the "other math" property.
[123-A51] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader, Deborah Anderson: Update document L2/10-105 with property changes.
[123-A52] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader, Deborah Anderson: Provide the updated Arabic Mathematical Symbols names list to Michel Suignard.
[123-A53] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader: Provide to Mark Davis a new list of Arabic confusables for a version after Unicode 6.0, especially for the Arabic Mathematical stretching operators based on L2/10-105.
B.15 Tailoring the Unicode Bidi Algorithm [Sargent, L2/10-200]
[123-A54] Action Item for Murray Sargent: Create a working draft for a new UTR on "Bidi Implementation Guidelines", Ayman's algorithm in document L2/10-200 and invite other bidi experts to contribute to that document.
C.2.1 Comments on the Proposed Arabic Letter Kashmiri Yeh [Lata, L2/10-169]
[123-A55] Action Item for Kamal Mansour, Editorial Committee: Provide text Kashmiri Yeh for section 8.2 for Unicode 6.0. See L2/09-215 and L2/10-169.
C.2.2 Preliminary Proposal for Encoding Special Scripts and Characters in UCS for Uighur, Kazakh and Kirgiz (WG2 N3819) [China N.B, L2/10-129]
[123-A56] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader, Deborah Anderson: Draft feedback on L2/10-129 to be reviewed at the next UTC meeting as a potential US national body feedback.
C.2.3 Reservations on L2/09-419 proposal [Schmitt, Hosny, L2/10-155]
[123-A57] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Roozbeh Pournader: Respond to authors of L2/10-155 to thank them for their input, but the UTC is not going to make the suggested changes. [consult Roozbeh for input on reasons]
B.10.16 Other feedback [L2/10-112]
[123-A58] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Kamal Mansour: Respond to Dhafer dssdsmd@hotmail.com in L2/10-112. Our experts in the meeting said "teh marbuta always represents a feminine ending and belongs to the ending of words". Work, with Kamal for text.
B.14.1 CJK Charts [Suignard, L2/10-195]
[123-A59] Action Item for John Jenkins: Update in UAX #38 the description of the format of the IRG tags to match the revisions made for 10646. See also L2/10-195.
[123-A60] Action Item for John Jenkins: Update the IRG source values in the Unihan database to match those specified by Michel Suignard, for Unicode 6.0. L2/10-195. (Details to be supplied by Michel.)
Adjourned for the day at 5:30.
Day 4, Thursday, May 13, 2010
Meeting opened at 9:40 am
7 members represented: Adobe, Google, IBM, UCB, Yahoo, MS, Apple.
C.16 Preliminary Proposal to Encode the Sindhi Script (revised) [Pandey, L2/10-012]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
C.21 Revised Code Chart and Names List for the Modi Script (WG2 N3780) [Pandey, L2/10-084]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
B.10.14 Issue 167: Combined registration of the Hanyo-Denshi collection and of sequences in that collection
B.10.14.1 Feedback
B.10.14.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-112]
B.10.14.1.2 PRI#167 feedback [Lunde, L2/10-196]
B.10.14.2 Document for review [L2/10-189]
and:
B.11.2.2 Working Draft Proposed Update UTS #37, Ideographic Variation Database [Muller, L2/10-197]
[123-C28] Consensus: Authorize a proposed update to UTS #37 with the changes in L2/10-197, and other discussion in the meeting.
[123-A61] Action Item for Eric Muller, Editorial Committee: Create a proposed update for UTS #37.
[123-A62] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post proposed update UTS #37 as a PRI to close August 2, 2010.
D.2.1 Review of Indic-related L2 documents and Recommendations to the UTC [Anderson, et al., L2/10-167]
D.2.2 Misrepresentation in Unicode of characters related to the Sanskrit sounds Jihvamuliya and Upadhmaniya [Sharma, L2/09-404]
D.2.2.1 See "Feedback on Vedic Docs" [Scharf, L2/09-342]
D.2.3 Request for encoding 1CF3 ROTATED ARDHAVISARGA [Sharma, L2/09-343]
D.2.3.1 See "Feedback on Vedic Docs" [Scharf, L2/09-404]
D.2.4 Request for encoding 1CF4 VEDIC TONE CANDRA ABOVE [Sharma, L2/09-344, Scharf, L2/09-404]
[123-C29] Consensus: Change the general category and script property of U+0CF1 KANNADA SIGN JIHVAMULIYA and U+0CF2 KANNADA SIGN UPADHMANIYA from "GC=So" to "Lo" and from "Script=Common" to "Kannada" for Unicode 6.0.
[123-A63] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update UnicodeData.txt for general category of U+0CF1 KANNADA SIGN JIHVAMULIYA and U+0CF2 KANNADA SIGN UPADHMANIYA from "GC=So" to "Lo".
[123-A64] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update Scripts.txt to change script property of U+0CF1 KANNADA SIGN JIHVAMULIYA and U+0CF2 KANNADA SIGN UPADHMANIYA from from "Script=Common" to "Kannada" for Unicode 6.0.
[123-A65] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Add a step in the release process to notify the IETF with potential changes to IDNA 2008 table derivation, such as general category changes.
[123-A66] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Create a proposal for Devanagari versions of JIHVAMULIYA and UPADHMANIYA.
[123-C30] Consensus: Accept U+1CF3 VEDIC SIGN ROTATED ARDHAVISARGA with general category "Mc" for encoding in a future version of the standard.
[123-A67] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with U+1CF3 VEDIC SIGN ROTATED ARDHAVISARGA with general category "Mc".
[123-A68] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Follow up with Shriramana Sharma on U+1CF3 VEDIC SIGN ROTATED ARDHAVISARGA to get a revised proposal for forwarding to WG2.
[123-A69] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+1CF3 VEDIC SIGN ROTATED ARDHAVISARGA with general category "Mc" to document requesting future additions.
[123-A70] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Follow up with Shriramana Sharma on his request for general category changes, relaying that the UTC would welcome a proposal with a more detailed assessment. See L2/09-343.
[123-C31] Consensus: Accept U+1CF4 VEDIC TONE CANDRA ABOVE with properties as documented in L2/09-344 for encoding in a future version of the standard.
[123-A71] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline with U+1CF4 VEDIC TONE CANDRA ABOVE as documented in L2/09-344.
[123-A72] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+1CF4 VEDIC TONE CANDRA ABOVE as documented in L2/09-344 document requesting future additions.
[123-A73] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Forward document L2/09-344 to WG2.
[123-A74] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Work with Shriramana Sharma on fonts for new Indic characters. (See above consensus and action items.)
[123-A75] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add an annotation to U+0965 as per 4.a of L2/10-167.
D.4.1 Sinhala Named Sequences [Dias, L2/10-164]
Present on telephone: Harsha Wijayawardhana (ICTA Sri Lanka)
[123-C32] Consensus: Accept three Sinhala named sequences as provisional in Unicode 6.0:
SINHALA CONSONANT SIGN YANSAYA; 0DCA 200D 0DBA
SINHALA CONSONANT SIGN RAKAARAANSAYA; 0DCA 200D 0DBB
SINHALA CONSONANT SIGN REPAYA; 0DBB 0DCA 200D
[123-A76] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update NamedSequencesProv.txt with the three provisional Sinhala named sequences. See above consensus 123-C32.
[123-A77] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add to ballot comments for 3rd edition of 10646 a request to include the 3 Sinhala named sequences.
D.4.2 Preliminary Proposal to Encode Sinhala Digits and Numerals [Dias, L2/10-165]
Ken suggested using U+111E0 - U+111FF for Sinhala numerals in the proposal.
Lunch 11:45 - 12:45.
B.11.1.1 Working Draft Unicode Technical Report #48, Unicode Script Edge Cases [Davis, L2/10-122]
B.11.1.2 Data file to accompany WD UTR #48 [L2/10-122] [Davis, L2/10-123]
Long discussion.
[123-C33] Consensus: Incorporate the text of L2/10-122 into a proposed update of UAX #24 and add the data file L2/10-123 into the UCD ("ScriptMultipleUse.txt") as provisional for Unicode 6.0.
D.2.1 Review of Indic-related L2 documents and Recommendations to the UTC [Anderson, et al., L2/10-167]
[123-A78] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Deborah Anderson: Follow up with Naga Ganesan about the glyph for U+11350 Grantha Om.
[123-A79] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add a note "to be reconsidered" to the existing entries for Sinhala digits in the pipeline. See L2/10-165.
C.8.1 Towards an Encoding for Coptic Numbers in the UCS (WG2 N3786) [Pandey, L2/10-114]
[123-C34] Consensus: Accept 29 Coptic number characters at U+102E0 - U+102FC in block "Coptic Numbers" at U+102E0 - U+102FF for encoding in a future version of the standard with properties as given in L2/10-114, except for U+102FC which has a general category of "Cf" and its glyph will be enclosed in a dotted box.
[123-A80] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline 29 Coptic number characters at U+102E0 - U+102FC in block "Coptic Numbers" at U+102E0 - U+102FF as given in L2/10-114.
[123-A81] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add to document requesting future additions: 29 Coptic number characters at U+102E0 - U+102FC in block "Coptic Numbers" at U+102E0 - U+102FF as given in L2/10-114.
[123-A82] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Work with Anshuman Pandey to update the proposal L2/10-114 and forward to WG2, and get a font (send to Michel and Rick).
B.11.5 Update of UTR #36, Unicode Security Considerations [Davis, L2/10-191]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
B.11.6 Update of UTS #39, Unicode Security Mechanisms [Davis, L2/10-192]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
B.11.7 Update of UTS #46, Unicode IDNA Compatibility Processing [Davis, L2/10-193]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
B.11.7.1 Update of UTS #46 Data file L2/10-203
[123-C35] Consensus: Issue a PRI for the set of test cases from L2/10-203 and reference code to provide those test cases.
[123-A83] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Prepare the text of the PRI on the set of test cases for IDNA preprocessing, and reference code including documentation of the data files.
[123-A84] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post the PRI to close August 2, 2010.
[123-A85] Action Item for Mark Davis: Prepare and post a proposed update for UTS #46 v6.0 (after UTS #46 v5.2 is released).
B.1.1.1 Convenor's report [Ksar]
Oral report by Mike Ksar. See also L2/10-148.
B.1.1.2.2 Unicode liaison report from WG2 [Constable, L2/10-199]
Oral report by Peter Constable.
B.1.3.1 Resolutions of WG2 meeting 56 [Umamaheswaran, L2/10-148]
Oral report by V S Umamaheswaran.
B.1.8 Spelling of character names in English (WG2 N3832) [Anderson, L2/10-140]
B.1.9 Tangut ad hoc report (WG2 N3833) [Anderson, L2/10-141]
Oral reports by Deborah Anderson on B.1.8 and B.1.9.
[123-A86] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Work with Peri Bhaskararao to provide information on minimal pairs with Yaphalaa for Bengali.
A.9.1 Report on February BOD meeting
Oral report by Mark Davis.
A.9.2 UCSC Meeting
Oral report by Deborah Anderson.
A.9.3 Unicode Conference Report
Oral report by Rick McGowan.
B.12.3 Unicode 6.0
[123-C36] Consensus: Authorize the issuance of the beta for Unicode 6.0.
[123-A87] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Start the Unicode 6.0.0 beta review.
[123-A88] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post a PRI for the Unicode 6.0.0 beta, to close August 2, 2010.
B.10.8 Issue 161: Proposed Update UAX #31, Unicode Identifieer and Pattern Syntax
B.10.8.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-112]
B.10.8.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/10-183]
[123-C37] Consensus: Update PU UAX #31 based on the feedback from Gihan Dias on PRI #161 in L2/10-112.
[123-A89] Action Item for Mark Davis: Add new scripts to tables 4 and 5 of PU UAX #31 with information received in the meeting.
[123-A90] Action Item for Mark Davis: Break table 5 of UAX #31 into two parts.
B.10.10 Issue 163 Proposed Update UAX #38, Unicode Han Database (Unihan)
B.10.10.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-112]
B.10.10.2 Document for review [Jenkins, Cook, L2/10-185]
[123-A91] Action Item for John Jenkins: Add the suggested Cantonese definition for U+7DCA to Unihan in PRI #163 feedback on UAX #38. See L2/10-112.
B.10.13 Issue 166: Review of Proposed Update UTS #10, Unicode Collation Algorithm
B.10.13.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-112]
B.10.13.2 Document for review [Davis, Whistler, L2/10-188]
[123-A92] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Kent Karlsson re his feedback on PRI #166 that the UTC decided not to change this. (The perceived benefit doesn't outweigh the cost of destabilitizing the table.)
B.10.1 Issue 151: Review of Proposed Updated UAX #44, Unicode Character Database
B.10.1.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-112]
B.10.1.2 Document for review [Davis, Whistler, L2/10-176]
Report on status by Ken Whistler. More changes to come.
B.10.2 Issue 152: Review of Proposed Updated UAX #15, Unicode Normalization Forms
B.10.2.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-112]
B.10.2.2 Document for review [Davis, Whistler, L2/10-177]
Report on status by Ken Whistler.
Meeting adjourned for the day at 5:30.
Day 5, Friday, May 14, 2010
Meeting opened at 9:50.
8 members represented: Sybase, MS, Google, Adobe, IBM, UCB, Yahoo, Apple.
B.10.3 Issue 156: Proposed Update UAX #9: Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm
B.10.3.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-112]
B.10.3.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/10-178]
[123-C38] Consensus: Include the text in the working draft L2/10-178 as modified in discussion and subject to editorial review in the proposed update.
[123-C39] Consensus: Add information on the interaction with interlinear annotation characters, and see also L2/10-200.
[123-A93] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update UAX #9 and include in the proposed update.
[123-A94] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post the proposed update of UAX #9 and update the PRI text as needed.
[123-A95] Action Item for Eric Muller, Editorial Committee: Update section 16.8 Specials regarding annotation characters and bidi for Unicode 6.0.
B.10.5 Issue 158: Proposed Update UAX #14: Unicode Line Breaking Algorithm
B.10.5.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-112]
B.10.5.2 Document for review [Henninger, L2/10-180]
[123-A96] Action Item for Andy Heninger, Editorial Committee: Change "Editors" to "Authors". Put Asmus Freytag into acknowledgements. Update from 5.2 to 6.0.
[123-A97] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post the proposed update for UAX #14 and update the PRI text as needed.
B.10.7 Issue 160: Proposed Update UAX #29, Unicode Text Segmentation
B.10.7.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-112]
B.10.7.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/10-182]
[123-A98] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Make sure that Authors is changed to "Editors" in all UAXes and UTSes that are currently open for update. (6.0).
B.10.8 Issue 161: Proposed Update UAX #31, Unicode Identifier and Pattern Syntax
B.10.8.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-112]
B.10.8.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/10-183]
Nothing to discuss at this time.
B.10.9 Issue 162 Proposed Update UAX #34, Unicode Named Character Sequences
B.10.9.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-112]
B.10.9.2 Document for review [Whistler, L2/10-184]
B.10.9.3 Format of named sequences file [Suignard]
Nothing to discuss at this time.
B.10.10 Issue 163 Proposed Update UAX #38, Unicode Han Database (Unihan)
B.10.10.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-112]
B.10.10.2 Document for review [Jenkins, Cook, L2/10-185]
Nothing more to discuss at this time.
B.10.13 Issue 166: Review of Proposed Update UTS #10, Unicode Collation Algorithm
B.10.13.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-112]
B.10.13.2 Document for review [Davis, Whistler, L2/10-188]
[123-A99] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Check for old UTR citation style in the open UAXes and UTSes. (UAX|UTR|UTS nnn: blah blah)
[123-A100] Action Item for V S Umamaheswaran: Request WG2 to update the Principles and Procedures document to ask proposers of whole scripts to provide a list of which other already-encoded characters are used with the script.
B.11.1.3 WD UTR #48, ad hoc report/updated file [Davis, L2/10-123R]
[123-C40] Consensus: Make the following changes in L2/10-123R:
four Arabic (0600-0603) Common to Arabic,
two Bopomofo (02EA-02EB) Common to Bopomofo,
and two Hangul characters (302E 302F) from Inherited to Hangul.
[123-A101] Action Item for Mark Davis: Make the changes to Scripts.txt:
change four Arabic (0600-0603) Common to Arabic,
change two Bopomofo (02EA-02EB) Common to Bopomofo,
and change two Hangul characters (302E 302F) from Inherited to Hangul.
B.11.4 Updating UTR #20, Unicode in XML and other Markup Languages
[123-A102] Action Item for Mark Davis: Notify the W3C that we would like to have sole authorship over UTR #20, to help with ongoing maintenance updates.
Lunch 12:20 - 1:20.
Yahoo now represented by proxy.
B.10 Public Review Issues
[123-A103] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Extend the PRIs for PRIs for UAXes and UTS #10 (151, 152, 156-166) to August 2, 2010.
B.10.15 Issue 168: Proposal for two new provisional properties for characters in Indic scripts
B.10.15.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-112]
B.10.15.2 Document for review [L2/10-190]
B.10.15.3 Background document [Whistler, L2/10-056]
[123-A104] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close PRI #168 with resolution: "These characters will be added as provisional to Unicode 6.0 with, two data files and adjustments of the data."
D.2.1 Review of Indic-related L2 documents and Recommendations to the UTC [Anderson, et al., L2/10-167]
Discussion of remaining items. No further actions.
C.4.1 Sora Sompeng text materials [Vitebsky, L2/10-174]
Informational only.
B.3.1 IRG Liaison report [Jenkins]
[123-A105] Action Item for Lisa Moore: Add the IRG Principles and Procedures document L2/10-098 to the agenda for the August 2010 UTC meeting.
B.2.4 US Tag for SC 35
Discussion.
UTC adjourned at 2:25 pm.
UTC Attendance
Person | Representing | E-mail Address |
Deborah Anderson | U C Berkeley | dwanders@sonic.net |
Peter Constable | Microsoft | petercon@microsoft.com |
Craig Cummings | Yahoo! | crc@yahoo-inc.com |
Mark Davis | mark.davis@google.com | |
Peter Edberg | Apple | pedberg@apple.com |
Erich Fickle | SIL | Erich_Fickle@sil.org |
Mike Ksar | WG2 | mikeksar@10646.com |
Chris Little | LSA | chrislit@berkeley.edu |
Ken Lunde | Adobe | lunde@adobe.com |
Kamal Mansour | Monotype | kamal.mansour@monotypeimaging.com |
Rick McGowan | Unicode | rick@unicode.org |
Lisa Moore | IBM | lisam@us.ibm.com |
Eric Muller | Adobe | emuller@adobe.com |
Roozbeh Pournader | Gnome | roozbeh@htpassport.com |
Lorna Priest | SIL | Lorna_Priest@sil.org |
Murray Sargent | Microsoft | murrays@microsoft.com |
Michel Suignard | Unicode | michel@suignard.com |
V S Umamaheswaran | IBM | umavs@ca.ibm.com |
Ken Whistler | Sybase | kenw@sybase.com |
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Michael Everson | Evertype | everson@evertype.com |
Naga Ganesan | self | |
John Jenkins | Apple | jenkins@apple.com |
Harsha Wijayawardhana | ICTA, Sri Lanka |
Members Represented
Full Member |
11/2/09 |
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11/4/09 |
11/5/09 |
11/6/09 |
1. Adobe Systems, Inc. |
yes |
yes |
yes |
yes |
yes |
2. Apple Computer, Inc. |
yes |
yes |
yes |
yes |
yes |
3. Denic e.G. |
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4. Google, Inc. |
yes |
yes |
yes |
yes |
yes |
5. IBM Corporation |
yes |
yes |
yes |
yes |
yes |
6. Microsoft Corporation |
yes |
yes |
yes |
yes |
yes |
7. Oracle Corporation |
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8. SAP AG |
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9. Sybase, Inc. |
yes |
yes |
yes |
yes |
yes |
10. Yahoo! |
yes |
yes |
yes |
yes |
yes |
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2. Tamil Nadu & TVU |
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3. W Bengal SNLTR |
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4. UCB |
yes |
yes |
yes |
yes |
yes |
5. UCSC |
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1. Monotype Imaging Corp |
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yes |
yes |
yes |