L2/10-221

Pre-Preliminary Minutes of the UTC 124 / L2 221 Joint Meeting
Redmond, WA -- August 9-13, 2010
Hosted by Microsoft
UTC #124 Agenda
Revision date: August 23, 2010

Monday, August 9, 2010

Roll call
5 full in regular attendance
1 inst in regular attendance
total: 6 (MS, Adobe, SAP(proxy), IBM, Apple, UCB)
Quorum is 4.5.

Meeting opened at 10:30

L2 meeting opened. Quorum, etc.

Eric is chairing the meeting in Lisa's absence.

Agenda update notes:
* Sinhala digits, schedule teleconf for early (9:30)
* Roozbeh wants to call in Weds afternoon, 2pm.
* Thursday/Wed Duployean

New agenda items:
* New item: Proposed update to UTR #25
* UTR #47
* Move B.13.2 -> B.13.2.1
* B.13.2.2 Review of Philippe Verdy's script extension feedback from L2/10-237 on UAX #24.
* B.14.3 IRG.
* B.10.16.1.2. Bidi test feedback from Markus.
* B.10.13.1.2 - added, with doc 304.

6 members in attendance (5 full, 1 inst)
MS, Adobe, SAP(proxy), IBM, Apple, UCB

A.9 Membership update
A.9.1 Report on Unicode Conference [McGowan]

Oral report

A.6 Calendar review

UTC 125, Apple meeting confirmed; Singapore room
UTC 128/L2 225 - August 8-12, 2011. Microsoft to host in Redmond.

A.5.2 Action Items
A.5.2.1 Review of open action items [L2/SD2]
A.5.2.2 Recently closed action items [L2/10-236]

Reviewed action items.

B.10.1 Issue 151: Review of Proposed Updated UAX #44, Unicode Character Database
B.10.1.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.1.2 Document for review [Davis, Whistler, L2/10-238]

[124-A1] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Fix the value in table 15 of UAX #44, per L2/10-237, and respond to the reporter. For Unicode 6.0.

B.10.2 Issue 152: Review of Proposed Updated UAX #15, Unicode Normalization Forms
B.10.2.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.2.2 Document for review [Davis, Whistler, L2/10-239]

Discussion. No specific actions.

B.10.3 Issue 156: Proposed Update UAX #9: Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm
B.10.3.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.3.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/10-240]

[124-A2] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Review feedback from C. E. Whitehead on UAX #9 for 6.0, and make any editorial changes that look warranted.

[124-A3] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Incorporate changes to UAX #9 for 6.0 as suggested by Asmus Freytag and Mati Allouche in L2/10-237.

B.10.4 Issue 157: Proposed Update UAX #11: East Asian Width
B.10.4.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.4.2 Document for review [Muller, L2/10-179]

Discussion. No specific actions.

B.10.5 Issue 158: Proposed Update UAX #14: Unicode Line Breaking Algorithm
B.10.5.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.5.2 Document for review [Henninger, L2/10-241]

[124-A4] Action Item for Andy Heninger, Editorial Committee: In section 5.1 of UAX #14 for 6.0, change wording to "Examples of dandas include..." Look for other cases in the document where we can make the inclusion language clearer. Also, "The ID line break class includes the following characters:" should be qualified clarified to "Examples of characters with the ID line break class include most assigned characters in the following ranges", and correct ranges as needed. Respond to Emmanuel Vallois on his feedback.

[124-A5] Action Item for Andy Heninger, Editorial Committee: Make the changes suggested in L2/10-309, as amended in committee. (Eric will add hyphenation to a revised doc.) For Unicode 6.0.

B.10.6 Issue 159: Proposed Update UAX #24: Unicode Script Property
B.10.6.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.6.2 Document for review [Whistler, L2/10-242]

[124-A6] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update the text of UAX #24 to make singular treatment of "data" consistent. For Unicode 6.0.

B.10.7 Issue 160: Proposed Update UAX #29, Unicode Text Segmentation
B.10.7.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.7.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/10-182]

[124-A7] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Incorporate feedback from Emmanuel Vallois on UAX #29, from L2/10-237, and respond to the author. For Unicode 6.0.

// This 13.4 was originally B.13.5 on the agenda, but got moved.

B.13.4 Fix to Unicode 5.1 changes for Grapheme_Cluster_Break Extend value [Edberg, L2/10-281]

[124-C1] Consensus: All of the Thai and Lao characters that are listed as specific additions in the "extend" category (incl, Sara Am and Lao vowel Sign Am) be moved to the "spacing mark" category, and corresonding Thai Viet characters be treated similarly. Document that people may want to tailor Sara Am and Sign Am. For Unicode 6.0.

[124-A8] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Implement 124-C1 in UAX #29 and GraphemeBreakProperty.txt. (All of the Thai and Lao characters that are listed as specific additions in the "extend" category (incl, Sara Am and Lao vowel Sign Am) be moved to the "spacing mark" category, and corresonding Thai Viet characters be treated similarly. Document that people may want to tailor Sara Am and Sign Am.) For Unicode 6.0.

B.10.8 Issue 161: Proposed Update UAX #31, Unicode Identifier and Pattern Syntax
B.10.8.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.8.1.2 Script metadata [Davis, L2/10-208]
B.10.8.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/10-243]

[124-A9] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Delete the sentence in UAX #31, "however, neither will ever decrease". Add an underbar to ID non-start and note that it is not a formal property. Respond to Behdad about this change. For Unicode 6.0.

[124-A10] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: In UAX #31, move Syriac to "limited use". Document re Mongolian, Tifinagh, UCAS, and Yi: they are currently in "limited use" but because their use is expected to increase, therefore they are included in "recommended" scripts. For Unicode 6.0.

[124-A11] Action Item for Mark Davis, John Jenkins: Gather a list of recommended sample characters, one per script, for use in contexts like the last resort font.

Break for lunch at 1:26, return at 2:29.

B.10.9 Issue 162 Proposed Update UAX #34, Unicode Named Character Sequences
B.10.9.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.9.1.2 Format of named sequences file [Suignard]
B.10.9.2 Document for review [Whistler, L2/10-244]

[124-A12] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Clarify the scope of the notational convention and note that in data files there are a number of representations. For Unicode 6.0.

B.10.10 Issue 163 Proposed Update UAX #38, Unicode Han Database (Unihan)
B.10.10.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.10.2 Document for review [Jenkins, Cook, L2/10-185]

[124-A13] Action Item for John Jenkins: Make the fix to correct spelling of "perceive" in the Unihan database. See L2/10-237 PRI #163 feedback. For extra credit, spell-check the English fields in the Unihan database. For Unicode 6.0.

B.10.11 Issue 164: Proposed Update UAX #41, Common References for Unicode Standard Annexes
B.10.11.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.11.2 Document for review [Danish, L2/10-245]

Discussion. No specific actions.

B.10.12 Issue 165: Proposed Update UAX #42, Unicode Character Database in XML
B.10.12.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.12.2 Document for review [Muller, L2/10-246]

Discussion. No specific actions.

B.10.13 Issue 166: Review of Proposed Update UTS #10, Unicode Collation Algorithm
B.10.13.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.13.2 Document for review [Davis, Whistler, L2/10-247]

[124-A14] Action Item for Lisa Moore: Add to the UTC agenda for next meeting: Ake Persson's feedback on #166 UCA, middle dot collation.

[124-A14a] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Respond to Ake Persson's various UCA feedback in L2/10-237.

[124-C2] Consensus: Issue a PRI on U+17B4 KHMER VOWEL INHERENT AQ and U+17B5 KHMER VOWEL INHERENT AA with two questions: (1) should they be ignorable in collation, (2) is "Cf" the best category or not.

[124-A15] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Draft the text for a PRI on U+17B4 and U+17B5. See consensus 124-C2.

[124-A16] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post the PRI on U+17B4 and U+17B, to close on October 25, 2010. See consensus 124-C2.

[124-A17] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update text of the default ignorable codepoints subsection in section 5.3 of the standard, for Unicode 6.0.

[124-A18] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Mark Davis: Check weights for U+01C5 U+01C8 U+01CB U+01F2 and fix if needed. See L2/10-237. Also check Malayalam NNNA, and AU sign.

[124-A19] Action Item for Mark Davis, Ken Whistler: Check "Collation Test and CJK ExtC (5.2.0)" (from Sadahiro Tomoyuki, L2/10-237) and fix if needed.

B.10.13.1.2 Add informative text to UTS#10 documenting the use of asymmetric searching [Davis, Edberg, L2/10-210]

[124-A20] Action Item for Peter Edberg: Draft proposed text for addition to UTS #10 after 6.0, based on L2/10-210 as modified in the meeting.

B.10.13.1.3 Proposed collation changes for 6.0 (revised) [Davis, L2/10-275R]
B.10.13.1.2 L2/10-304

[124-C3] Consensus: Issue a PRI that UTC is considering whether or not to sort the U+20A8 RUPEE SIGN and U+FDFC RIAL SIGN with the other currency symbols.

[124-A21] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Prepare a PRI that UTC is considering whether or not to sort the U+20A8 Rupee Sign and U+FDFC Rial Sign with the other currency symbols. See also Gujarati rupee sign, and Peseta sign.

[124-A22] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post the PRI for UTC is considering whether or not to sort the U+20A8 Rupee Sign and U+FDFC Rial Sign with the other currency symbols. See Consensus 124-C3.

[124-C4] Consensus: For Unicode 6.0, change the general category of U+19DE NEW TAI LUE SIGN LAE and U+19DF NEW TAI LUE SIGN LAEV to "So".

[124-A23] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update UnicodeData.txt for changing the general category of U+19DE NEW TAI LUE SIGN LAE and U+19DF NEW TAI LUE SIGN LAEV to "So". For Unicode 6.0.

[124-C5] Consensus: Make U+0640 ARABIC TATWEEL, U+07FA NKO LAJANYALAN and 180A MONGOLIAN NIRUGU be ignorable in the UCA DUCET. Generally, similar characters that simply provide visual lengthening should be ignorable in the future in the UCA DUCET. For Unicode 6.0.

[124-A24] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Regenerate Unicode 6.0 Allkeys.txt with changes for above Consensus 124-C5.

[124-A25] Action Item for Mark Davis: Regenerate all of the derivative UCA files based on above new Allkeys.txt. For Unicode 6.0.

[124-A26] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Make ballot comments on 14651 re changes for above Consensus 124-C5, if necessary.

Brief discussion of French sorting.

Meeting adjourned for the day at 5:45.

Tuesday, August 10, 2010

Meeting opened at 10:10 a.m.

8 members present: Adobe, Apple, Google(proxy), IBM, MS, SAP(proxy), Yahoo, UCB

C.28 Proposal for encoding additional Miao characters [L2/10-302]

Discussion.

[124-C6] Consensus: Accept 5 Miao characters for encoding in a future version of the standard, reordering of Miao repertoire, with change to Miao block to U+16F00 - U+16F9F.

16F0C MIAO LETTER YI TTA
16F12 MIAO LETTER YI NNA
16F31 MIAO LETTER YI DZHA
16F56 MIAO VOWEL SIGN AHH
16F5B MIAO VOWEL SIGN WO

(* Note name changes on the last two Miao characters, matching previously accepted vowel signs.)

[124-A27] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include 5 Miao characters for encoding in a future version of the standard, reordering of Miao repertoire, with change to Miao block to U+16F00 - U+16F9F. See Consensus 124-C6.

[124-A28] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add to ballot comments on the CD of 10646 3rd edition the 5 new Miao characters, reordering repertoire, and block change.

C.22 Proposal to encode an additional Linear A character [SEI, Everson, L2/10-273]

[124-C7] Consensus: Accept U+1078A LINEAR A SIGN AB048 for encoding in a future version of the standard.

(* Note: the block may be re-ordered in WG2 ballot, at which time they would supply an updated document.)

[124-A29] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+1078A LINEAR A SIGN AB048.

[124-A30] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+1078A LINEAR A SIGN AB048 to document requesting for future encoding.

D.2 Indian Rupee sign
D.2.1 Proposal to encode the INDIAN RUPEE SIGN [Everson, L2/10-249]
D.2.2 Proposal to encode India's national currency symbol [Deka, L2/10-251]
D.2.3 Proposal to add rupee symbol [India, MIT, L2/10-258]
D.2.4 How to pick a representative glyph for a new currency symbol [Freytag, Whistler, L2/10-289]

[124-C8] Consensus: Accept U+20B9 INDIAN RUPEE SIGN for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[124-C9] Consensus: The UTC supports publication of U+20B9 INDIAN RUPEE SIGN as part of 6.0, delaying the publication of 6.0 to October 11, 2010, to allow review of this character by WG2.

[124-A31] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update UnicodeData.txt for version 6.0 to include U+20B9 INDIAN RUPEE SIGN.

[124-A32] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+20B9 INDIAN RUPEE SIGN as part of 6.0.

[124-A33] Action Item for Mark Davis: Regenerate the dependent UCD files for Unicode 6.0, re U+20B9 INDIAN RUPEE SIGN.

[124-A34] Action Item for Deborah Anderson and Peter Constable: Support proposals for U+20B9 INDIAN RUPEE SIGN in WG2 with urgency.

[124-A35] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Follow up with Manoj Jain to submit L2/10-258R to WG2.

[124-A36] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add U+20B9 INDIAN RUPEE SIGN to the DUCET for UCA 6.0.

[124-A37] Action Item for Mark Davis: Regenerate dependent collation data files for UCA 6.0 re U+20B9 INDIAN RUPEE SIGN.

[124-A38] Action Item for V. S. Umamaheswaran: Follow up with Gov't of India on identifying guidelines for implementing U+20B9 INDIAN RUPEE SIGN and send information to Lisa Moore.

[124-A39] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+20B9 INDIAN RUPEE SIGN to ballot comments on ISO 14651.

C.16 Proposal for encoding the Palmyrene script [SEI/Everson, L2/10-255]

[124-C10] Consensus: Accept 32 characters for the Palmyrene script at U+10860 - U+1087F, with block "Palmyrene" at U+10860 - U+1087F, for encoding in a future version of the standard. See L2/10-255R.

[124-A40] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include 32 characters for the Palmyrene script at U+10860 - U+1087F, with block "Palmyrene" at U+10860 - U+1087F.

[124-A41] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add 32 characters for the Palmyrene script at U+10860 - U+1087F, with block "Palmyrene" at U+10860 - U+1087F, to request for future additions.

C.25 Proposal to add additional characters for Greek, Latin, and Coptic (WG2 N3873) [Everson, L2/10-290]

[124-C11] Consensus: Accept U+2CF2 COPTIC CAPITAL LETTER BOHAIRIC KHEI and U+2CF3 COPTIC SMALL LETTER BOHAIRIC KHEI for encoding in a future version of the standard. (See L2/10-290)

[124-A42] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+2CF2 COPTIC CAPITAL LETTER BOHAIRIC KHEI and U+2CF3 COPTIC SMALL LETTER BOHAIRIC KHEI. (See L2/10-290)

[124-A43] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+2CF2 COPTIC CAPITAL LETTER BOHAIRIC KHEI and U+2CF3 COPTIC SMALL LETTER BOHAIRIC KHEI to request for future additions. (See L2/10-290)

Lunch 1:10 - 2:10 pm.

B.10.13.2 UTS #10 - Document for review [Davis, Whistler, L2/10-247]

[124-C12] Consensus: Use the implicit weights of 7.1.3 of UTS #10 (document L2/10-247) for non-character codepoints.

[124-A44] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update UTS #10 section 7.1.2 and 7.1.3 regarding using implicit weights for non-character codepoints.

[124-A45] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: In the modification section for UCA, call out issues that are important for migration from previous versions.

[124-A46] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Find a way to document significant migration issues in UTSes for their next revisions.

[124-A47] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Clarify in UTS #10 that one could have a special mapping for ill-formed code unit sequences. See section 7.1.1.

B.10.14 Issue 167: Ideographic Variation Database submission
B.10.14.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.14.1.2 Adobe-Japan1 IVD Collection: Current Status and Future Directions [Lunde, L2/10-211]
B.10.14.1.3 "Hanyo-Denshi" IVD Collection (PRI 167) to Adobe-Japan1-6 Mapping Table [Lunde, L2/10-215]
B.10.14.1.4 Comments on PRI #167 [Yasuoka, L2/10-219]
B.10.14.2 Document for review [L2/10-189]

Long discussion.

[124-A48] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close PRI #167. Resolution is that submission will be registered and is pending final update.

B.10.15 Issue 169: Glyph variation of Double Oblique Hyphen
B.10.15.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.15.1.2 Oblique hyphen vs. Double Hyphen [Freytag, L2/10-214]
B.10.15.1.3 Comments on the Public Review Issue #169 "Glyph Variation of Double Oblique Hyphen" [Pentzlin, L2/10-269]

[124-A49] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close PRI #169. Resolution us that an annotation will not be added.

* Added new agenda item B.12.4.1.

B.10.16.1.2 Bidi test feedback [Scherer]

[124-A50] Action Item for Mark Davis: Fix problems in bidi test that Markus found (4th category flag for paragraph direction).

B.10.16 Issue 170: Unicode 6.0.0 beta
B.10.16.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.16.1.2 Bidi test feedback [Scherer]

[124-A51] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Comments: Address issues raised by Roozbeh Pournader in L2/10-237 for PRI #170.

[124-A52] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Roozbeh Pournader re Mongolian in L2/10-237.

[124-A53] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update annotation of U+0970 to remove "such as the rupee sign".

[124-A54] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Kent Karlsson re his comment on U+0970 in L2/10-237.

[124-A55] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update section 4.6 of the standard, for version 6.0, based on feedback from Asmus Freytag in L2/10-237, L2/10-262, and L2/10-276.

[124-A56] Action Item for Julie Allen: Check the text of the standard for consistent use of the terms "Named Character Sequence" and "Named Sequence".

[124-A57] Action Item for Julie Allen: Update 2 instances of "Named Sequence" to "Named Character Sequence" on the Pipeline page.

[124-A58] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Add information about stability of approved Named Character Sequences to UAX #34.

[124-A59] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Karl Pentzlin's feedback in L2/10-237 that we will update UAX #34 (both names and sequences are stable; point to stability policy). But we won't update page 152 (new 131) of TUS.

[124-A60] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Andreas Stoetzner re his comment on U+26FC thanking him for his input. There is info in that section heading block/annotations that provides information about the glyph. Name cannot be changed.

[124-A61] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Use input on Georgian and Armenian punctuation in L2/10-237 to appropriately update Unicode 6.0.

[124-A62] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Alex Ostrovski re his feedback in L2/10-237; thanks, and the feedback will be taken into account.

[124-C13] Consensus: Change the general category of U+06DE to from "Me" to "So" and bidi class from "NSM" to "ON", and linebreak property from "CN" to "AL" and remove the dotted circle from the glyph, for Unicode 6.0.

[124-A63] Action Item for Peter Constable, Eric Muller: Include all of the property changes between Unicode 5.2 and 6.0 in the Unicode liaison report to WG2.

[124-A64] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update UnicodeData.txt general category and bidi properties for U+06DE for Unicode 6.0.

[124-A65] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the linebreak property for U+06DE for Unicode 6.0.

[124-A66] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Get an updated glyph for U+06DE for Unicode 6.0.

[124-A67] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close PRI #171. The character properties will be updated...

B.10.19 Issue 173: Invariant Tests
B.10.19.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.19.3 Background document [L2/10-317]

[124-A68] Action Item for Mark Davis: Produce a draft UTR #50 on "UCD Testing Process".

[124-A69] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close PRI #173. A new draft UTR will be produced on this topic.

Meeting adjourned for the day at 5:37.

Wednesday, August 11, 2010

Meeting opened at 9:30 a.m.

8 members present: IBM, Adobe, SAP(proxy), MS, UCB, Yahoo, Apple, Google(proxy)

D.9 Sinhala D.9.1 Proposal to Encode Sinhala Archaic Numerals and Numbers [Dias, L2/10-312] D.9.2 Proposal to add archaic numbers for Sinhala to the BMP and SMP (WG2 N3876) [Ireland NB, L2/10-301]

On the phone: Harsha Wijayawardhana (Sri Lanka) and Michael Everson (Evertype)

[124-A70] Action Item for Peter Constable, Deborah Anderson: Support amended Sinhala proposal in WG2.

B.8.1 INFITT Liaison report

Oral report by Michael Kaplan. See also L2/10-318.

B.7 UC Berkeley Department of Linguistics - Script Encoding Initiative
B.7.1 Liaison report [Anderson, L2/10-296]

Oral report by Deborah Anderson.

B.14.2 Proposal to append one CJK Unified Ideograph to the URO [Lunde, L2/10-228]

[124-C14] Consensus: Accept U+9FCC CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH 9FCC for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[124-A71] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+9FCC CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH 9FCC.

[124-A72] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+9FCC CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH 9FCC to request for future additions, however, the IR should support if possible small additions to the third edition.

[124-A73] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Ken Lunde: Forward L2/10-228 to WG2, after updating to be a joint US/Unicode contribution; and for attention of WG2 as well as UTC/L2.

B.3.1 IRG Liaison report [Jenkins L2/10-319]
B.3.2 Resolutions of IRG meeting #34 (IRG N1690) [Lu, L2/10-225]
B.3.3 CJK Editorial Group Report, from IRG #34 (IRG N1700) [Lu, L2/10-226]
B.3.4 Error report on U+225D6 AND U+2F89F (IRG N1666) [TCA, China NB, L2/10-218]
B.3.5 IRG Principles and Procedures document [IRG, L2/10-098]

Discussion. Oral report(s) by John Jenkins.

B.14.3 IRG sources [Muller]

Oral report by Eric Muller.

(* Google now present, w/out proxy.)
(* Apple to be represented by proxy for 1 hr.)

[124-A74] Action Item for Eric Muller, Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Document the known differences between 6.0 CJK and 10646 second edition.

[124-A75] Action Item for John Jenkins: Update Unihan and UAX #38 for 6.0: update the prefixes for all sources except G and U, to match exactly the 2nd edition of 10646.

B.12.4.1 Stable links for PRIs

[124-A76] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Establish a process for implementing stable PRI links, background document links, dispositions, and background document back link.

B.6.1 W3C Liaison report [Davis]

[124-C15] Consensus: Issue a proposed update of UTR #20 to fix known bugs.

[124-A77] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Create a proposed update of UTR #20 to fix known bugs, including recommendations about template.

[124-A78] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Editorial Committee: Post a PRI for proposed update of UTR #20 to close October 25, 2010.

B.6.2 MathML liaison report [Sargent]

Oral report by Murray Sargent.

B.10.21 Other feedback [L2/10-237]

(* Best practices for using U+FFFD)

[124-A79] Action Item for [empty copy/paste error; delete this action]

[124-C16] Consensus: (1) Add to D92 at the end: "and table 3-7". (2) Make the definition of "maximal sub-part" explicit. (3) Add an example table with sub-range restrictions such as E0-80.

[124-A80] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update text of section 3.9 of TUS based on the above Consensus 124-C16, for Unicode 6.0.

[124-A81] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Ezio Melotti to tell him we will be making updates to section 3.9 of TUS based on his input. See L2/10-237.

B.13.1 Decimial digits
B.13.1.1 Clarification of "decimal digits" [Freytag, L2/10-262]
B.13.1.2 Additional proposed improvement for Section 4.6 [Freytag, L2/10-276]
B.13.1.3 Fix numeric type [Davis, L2/10-277]

[124-C17] Consensus: Change the general category of U+19DA NEW TAI LUE THAM DIGIT ONE from "Nd" to "No". Request that a stability policy for numeric type be established by the officers.

[124-A82] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the general category of U+19DA NEW TAI LUE THAM DIGIT ONE from "Nd" to "No" in UnicodeData.txt for Unicode 6.0.

[124-A83] Action Item for Mark Davis: Request that the officers establish a stability policy for numeric type.

[124-A84] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Include feedback from L2/10-262 in the final update of UAX #44.

[124-A85] Action Item for V. S. Umamaheswaran: Request an update to the principles and procedures based on L2/10-262.

C.11.2 Proposal to add Arabic script characters for African and Asian languages [Priest, Hosken, L2/10-288]

[124-A86] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader: Document the hamza issues for "hamza above" used with Arabic characters for November UTC meeting. See L2/10-288.

(* Lorna will bring revised proposal later this week.)

C.11.3 Response to N3819 (=L2/10-129) "Preliminary Proposal for Encoding Special Scripts and Characters in UCS for Uighur, Kazakh and Kirgiz" [Pournader, Anderson, L2/10-282]

[124-C18] Consensus: Submit L2/10-282 "Response to N3819" as joint US/UTC feedback to WG2.

[124-A87] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Roozbeh Pournader: Forward the revision of L2/10-282 to WG2.

[124-A88] Action Item for Peter Constable: Add L2/10-282 to liaison report.

C.11.4 Proposal for Arabic Mathematical Alphabetic Symbols (revised; WG2 N3799) [Lazrek, et al, L2/10-105R]

Brief discussion. No action required.

C.11.1 Proposal to change some combining Arabic characters for Quranic representation (WG2 N3816) [Quran Printing Complex, L2/10-094]

[124-A89] Action Item for Lisa Moore: Respond to authors of L2/10-094 that UTC does not support the requested name and glyph changes.

C.11.5 Feedback from Phillipe Verdy [L2/10-237]

[124-A90] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Philippe Verdy's comments 1,2,3, on Arabic in L2/10-237. UTC reviewed these and decided to take no action on 2 and 3. On 1, we took different action to resolve the issue.

B.5.2 IDNA Status

Oral report by Mark Davis.

[124-C19] Consensus: Include the data file changes according to document L2/10-311 in the proposed update to UTS #46, as part of PRI #172. Use labels disallowed_STD3_m and disallowed_STD3_v.

[124-A91] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update UTS #46 data file according to L2/10-311 as modified in discussion, for 6.0.

[124-A92] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update IDNATest.txt to test both cases, not necessarily for the 6.0 version. See L2/10-311.

[124-A93] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Add a description of the changes to the data files for the proposed update of UTS #46.

[124-A94] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Change the PRI date of PRI #172 to September 15, 2010.

[124-A95] Action Item for Eric Muller: Issue a letter ballot by Sept 17, 2010 for approving the proposed update of UTS #46.

B.5.3 Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email (draft-ietf-eai-frmwrk-4952bis-02) [IETF, L2/10-300]

Long discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

Meeting adjourned for the day at 5:30.

Thursday, August 12, 2010

Meeting opened at 9:35 a.m.

7 members present: IBM, Adobe, MS, UCB, Yahoo, Apple, Google(proxy)

C.29 Spelling of CROSS POMMY in 1F540, 1F541, 1F542 [D. Anderson, L2/10-305]

[124-C20] Consensus: Change the spelling of "POMMY" in 1F540 - 1F542 to "POMMEE".

[124-A96] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include change in spelling of "POMMY" in U+1F540 - U+1F542 to "POMMEE".

[124-A97] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add change in spelling of "POMMY" in U+1F540 - U+1F542 to "POMMEE" to ballot comments on 10646 CD 3.

C.19 Annotation additions resulting from encoding LATIN CAPITAL LETTER H WITH HOOK [Priest, L2/10-268]

[124-A98] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Use information in L2/10-268 for annotations on U+0124, U+0266 and U+A7AA, for a future version of the standard (when U+A7AA is encoded).

C.11.2 Proposal to add Arabic script characters for African and Asian languages [Priest, Hosken, L2/10-288R]

[124-C21] Consensus: Accept 35 Arabic characters in the range U+08A0 - U+08FE as documented in L2/10-288R for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[124-A99] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include 35 Arabic characters as documented in L2/10-288R.

[124-A100] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add 35 Arabic characters as documented in L2/10-288R to request for future additions.

[124-A101] Action Item for Lorna Priest: Forward L2/10-288R to WG2 / Mike Ksar.

[124-A102] Action Item for Lorna Priest: Forward a font for characters in L2/10-288R to Michel Suignard.

[124-A103] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Include appropriate Arabic shaping information for characters in L2/10-288R.

[124-A104] Action Item for Mark Davis: Consult the confusability tables of L2/10-288R when updating the confusability tables of UTS #39 for a future version of the standard.

C.21 Proposal to include Duployan shorthands and Chinook script and shorthand format controls in UCS [V. Anderson, L2/10-272]

Long discussion. UTC took no action this time.

* Getting close... Van will produce an "R" version without zip files, so Eric can open...

B.10.20 Issue 174: Proposed Draft UTR #49, Unicode Character Categories
B.10.20.1.1 General feedback [L2/10-237]
B.10.20.1.2 PRI #174 - Proposed Draft UTR #49: Unicode Character Categories [Whitehead, L2/10-308]
B.10.20.1.3 UTR#49 Labels [Davis, L2/10-310]
B.10.20.2 Document for review [Whistler, L2/19-322]

[124-A105] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Make editorial updates based on L2/10-308 and respond to C. E. Whitehead.

Long discussion.

[124-A106] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the UTR #49 data for Unicode 6.0 and re-post for public review.

Lunch from 1:00 - 2:00.

B.10 Public Review Issues

[124-A107] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close PRIs 151, 152, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165. Resolution for each, "The UAX will be updated with final content and posted as part of Unicode 6.0."

B.13.2 Script_Extensions
B.13.2.1 Script_Extensions: Short name, and regex range semantics [Scherer, L2/10-261]
B.13.2.2 Comments in general feedback [Scherer, West, Verdi, L2/10-237]

[124-C22] Consensus: Add a description of scx and Script_Extensions to UTS #18.

[124-A108] Action Item for Mark Davis: Document the use of scx and Script_Extensions in UTS #18.

[124-A109] Action Item for Mark Davis: Remove "Phag and Tibt" from ScriptExtensions.txt (in the set "Bopo Hang Hani Hira Kana Phag Tibt Yiii") for Unicode 6.0.

B.13.3 Mathematical character properties [Freytag, L2/10-264]

[124-C23] Consensus: Change the general category of U+2118 from "So" to "Sm". Make "Other_Math = true" in PropList.txt for U+2107. Both for Unicode 6.0.

[124-A110] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the general category for U+2118 to "Sm" for Unicode 6.0.

[124-A111] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update the Other_Math property to "true" for U+2107 for Unicode 6.0.

[124-C24] Consensus: Add to NameAliases.txt U+2118 WEIERSTRASS ELLIPTIC FUNCTION for a future version of the standard.

[124-A112] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update NameAliases.txt to add U+2118 WEIERSTRASS ELLIPTIC FUNCTION, post 6.0.

[124-A113] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update NamesList.txt for the new alias of U+2118, post 6.0.

[124-A114] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add request for formal alias for U+2118 to ballot comments for 10646 CD 3.

D.5 Proposal to change glyph for Brahmi number one thousand (U+11065) [Glass, L2/10-260]

[124-A115] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Michel Suignard: Ensure that the new Brahmi font is used for Unicode 6.0 and the publication of 10646 2nd edition. (This is to fix the form of U+11065 to the "T" form rather than the "4" form.)

B.10.5.2 Document for review [Henninger, L2/10-241]

[124-A116] Action Item for Mark Davis: Fix the problem in LineBreakTest.txt so that there is no break at the start of text for each test in the file. After 6.0.

[124-C25] Consensus: Approve the publication of all the UAXes for Unicode 6.0. (...with updates from the meeting and additional agreed-upon content.)

[124-A117] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Work with UAX editors to make final updates for Unicode 6.0 and issue approved UAXes.

[124-A118] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post all of the final UAXes for Unicode 6.0.

B.10.13 Issue 166: Review of Proposed Update UTS #10, Unicode Collation Algorithm

[124-C26] Consensus: Approve the publication of UTS #10 for Unicode 6.0 after completing all of the outstanding actions.

[124-A119] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Update UTS #10 for publication for Unicode 6.0.

[124-A120] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post final version of UTS #10 for Unicode 6.0.

[124-A121] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close PRI #166. Resolution: will be updated with final content and published for Unicode 6.0.

B.10.16 Issue 170: Unicode 6.0.0 beta

[124-C27] Consensus: Approve the data files for Unicode 6.0.

[124-A122] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Close PRI #170. The release will be finalized and published.

B.12.3 Unicode 6.0

[124-C28] Consensus: Approve the release of Unicode Standard, Version 6.0.

[124-A123] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Orchestrate the release of Unicode 6.0.

C.28 Proposal for encoding additional Miao characters [Everson, L2/10-302]

Brief discussion of names.

B.1.5 Review pipeline characters to ensure all new characters are in ballot comments or a separate document

Discussion and review of 13 emoticons. No action at this time.

D.8 Review of Indic-related L2 documents and Recommendations to the UTC [Anderson, L2/10-299]

[124-A124] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Deborah Anderson: Remove U+11350 Grantha Om from the consensus document L2/10-265.

[124-A125] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Invite others to prepare a separate proposal for Grantha Om, and for Oriya Om if appropriate. (See l2/10-299 for text).

[124-A126] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Deborah Anderson: Update the name of U+11301 GRANTHA SIGN ANUNASIKA to "GRANTHA SIGN CANDRABINDU" in L2/10-265.

[124-A127] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Deborah Anderson: Update L2/10-265 to change the name of U+1134F to "GRANTHA SIGN LIGATING VIRAMA".

[124-A128] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Deborah Anderson: Add the characters from L2/10-235, with suggested name changes, to the Grantha consensus proposal L2/10-265.

[124-A129] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Sharma re document L2/10-256 with UTC feedback that "EXTENDED" should be taken out of the names; and re-submit.

D.4 Request to add two characters to the Vedic extensions block [Anderson, Sharma, L2/10-257]

[124-C29] Consensus: Accept U+1CF5 VEDIC SIGN JIHVAMULIYA and U+1CF6 VEDIC SIGN UPADHMANIYA for encoding in a future version of the standard. (See L2/10-257.)

[124-A130] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+1CF5 VEDIC SIGN JIHVAMULIYA and U+1CF6 VEDIC SIGN UPADHMANIYA.

[124-A131] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add U+1CF5 VEDIC SIGN JIHVAMULIYA and U+1CF6 VEDIC SIGN UPADHMANIYA to request for future additions.

D.1.3 Request for encoding U+1CF3 VEDIC SIGN ROTATED ARDHAVISARGA (replaces L2/09-343) [Sharma, L2/10-234]

UTC took no action at this time.

D.1.12 Letter regarding Grantha encoding [Lata, L2/10-314]

[124-A132] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Deborah Anderson: Respond to Gov't of India re by pointing them at the Grantha consensus document L2/10-265. (NOTE: "On behalf of Dr Mark Davis, ... Here is our sense of where the consensus now stands. Pointer to L2/10-265." Send to Mark before sending.)

B.11.1 Unicode Technical Report #25, Unicode Support for Mathematics

[124-C30] Consensus: Approve the next revision of UTR #25 with the update to the data file for Unicode 6.0.

(NOTE: Time the release with U6.0. Double-check copyright year at end.)

[124-A133] Action Item for Laurentiu Iancu, Murray Sargent: Update UTR #25 and data file.

[124-A134] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post final approved UTR #25 (revision 12) after 6.0 is released.

Adjourned for the day at 5:38 pm.

Friday, August 13, 2010

Meeting opened at 9:36 a.m.

6 members present: Adobe, MS, SAP(proxy), IBM, UCB, Yahoo, Apple, Google(proxy)

C.21 Proposal to include Duployan shorthands and Chinook script and shorthand format controls in UCS [V. Anderson, L2/10-272]

[124-C31] Consensus: Accept 143 Duployan characters at U+1BC00 - U+1BC9F, with block "Duployan" U+1BC00 - U+1BC9F, for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[124-C32] Consensus: Accept U+2E3C STENOGRAPHIC FULL STOP for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[124-C33] Consensus: Accept U+1BCA0 - U+1BCA3 ((***NAMES***)) in block "Shorthand Format Controls" at U+1BCA0 - U+1BCAF for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[124-A135] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline for the 3 Duployan consensi above (124-C31, 124-C32, 124-C33).

[124-A136] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add Duployan characters to request for future additions.

[124-A137] Action Item for Van Anderson: Send revised Duployan proposal to WG2 for the next meeting. (Capture codepoint changes, etc. as documented in 124-C31, 124-C32, and 124-C33.

[124-A138] Action Item for Van Anderson: Provide updated Duployan font to Michel Suignard and Rick McGowan.

[124-A139] Action Item for Van Anderson, Rick McGowan: Produce a technical note describing the Duployan shorthand rendering.

D.7 Proposal to encode the Sindhi script (WG2 N3871) [Pandey, L2/10-271]

[124-C34] Consensus: Accept 69 Sindhi characters U+11600 - U+11649 in block "Sindhi" at U+11600 - U+1164F for encoding in a future version of the standard.

[124-A140] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to add 69 Sindhi characters U+11600 - U+11649 in block "Sindhi" at U+11600 - U+1164F

[124-A141] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Add 69 Sindhi characters U+11600 - U+11649 in block "Sindhi" at U+11600 - U+1164F to request for future additions.

[124-A142] Action Item for Anshuman Pandey, Deborah Anderson: Provide a font for Sindhi to Michel Suignard and Rick McGowan.

[124-A143] Action Item for Anshuman Pandey, Deborah Anderson: Provide an updated Sindhi proposal for UTC/L2 and WG2 (with minor corrections).

D.6 Comments on L2/10-083 (abbreviation signs) [Sharma, L2/10-266]

[124-A144] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Shriramana Sharma to thank him for his feedback, which was considered at the meeting.

C.4 Proposal to encode characters for the English Phonotypic Alphabet (EPA) [Pentzlin, L2/10-229]

[124-A145] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Provide feedback to Karl Pentzlin on L2/10-229R.

C.5 Modifier letter for use in French
C.5.1 Proposal to encode a modifier letter used in French abbreviations [Pentzlin, L2/10-230]
C.5.1 Comment on L2/10-230, "Proposal to encode a modifier letter used in French abbreviations" [Muller, L2/10-315]
C.5.3 Comments on L2/10-230 and L2/10-315 [Pentzlin, L2/10-316]

[124-A146] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Reply to Karl Pentzin re L2/10-230.

C.20.3 Tifinagh Summary Document (based on L2/10-278) [D.Anderson, L2/10-313]

Long discussion. UTC took no action at this time.

[124-A147] Action Item for Deborah Anderson, Lorna Priest: Respond to Paul Anderson re L2/10-278.

B.1.4.4 10646 3rd Edition Ballot Comments

Discussion of ballot comments.

B.1.4.1 L2/10-323
B.2.3.1 L2/10-324
B.1.6 L2/10-325
B.2.2.2 L2/10-291
B.2.2.3 L2/10-292

Discussions. UTC took no action at this time on the above items.

Lunch 1:15 - 2:05 pm

B.9.1 CLDR Liaison report [Davis]
B.9.3 -u extension
B.9.2 LDML as an ISO standard, and L2 as US TAG to SC35/WG5 [Edberg, L2/10-293]

Discussions. UTC took no action at this time on the above items.

UTC adjourned at 2:40 pm.

L2 continues at 2:56 pm.

L2 adjourned at 3:27 pm.

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