Preliminary minutes of INCITS/L2 meeting #228

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Preliminary minutes of INCITS/L2 meeting #228

May 7-11, 2012, Sunnyvale

1. Opening remarks and introductions

Craig Cummings, Chair, convened the meeting on May 7, 2012, at 10:40 am. He introduced himself as Chair.

1.1 Meeting Guidelines

The Chair stated that the meeting was operating under INCITS procedures, and called special attention to the ANSI patent policies (showing slides 1-3 of http://www.incits.org/pat_slides.pdf) and the INCITS antitrust policies (http://www.incits.org/inatrust.htm). The Chair noted that the INCITS Antitrust Guidelines applied to this committee meeting, and that it was the responsibility of all attendees, and not just the Officers, to ensure that the Guidelines are followed, and to terminate discussions if they are not.

1.2 Meeting Documents

An electronic version of the agenda and supporting documents were accessible via the ICMS Documents page. ICMS username and password are required for access. The agenda and meeting documents were posted in the required time frame.

2. Attendance and membership

2.1 Officers

No change in officers.

2.2 Gaining and losing voting membership

Information on how membership is gained, maintained, and lost in any INCITS Technical Committee or Task Group may be found at http://www.incits.org/rd2/INCITS_RD2.pdf. An overview of these requirements was introduced by the chair and was distributed to all attendees in the electronically distributed meeting documents.

2.3 Changes in representation since last meeting

Steven Loomis replaced V.S. Umamaheswaran as IBM's primary representative.

2.4 New voting membership

No new voting members.

2.5 New advisory members

No new advisory members.

2.6 Membership for this meeting

Based on the above information, the total voting membership is 10. The complete list of members (both voting and advisory), as well as the attendance to this meeting is:

Members			Attendance
Organization	Class	Representative	May 7	May 8	May 9	May 10	May 11
Adobe Systems, Inc	Voting	Eric Muller, primary	x	x	x	x	x
		Ken Lunde, alternate					x
		John O'Conner, alternate
Apple	Voting	Peter Edberg, primary		x	x	x	x
		John Jenkins, alternate					x
		Deborah Goldsmith, alternate
		Lee Collins, alternate
		Yasuo Kida, alternate				x
Google	Voting	Mark Davis, primary	x	x	x		x
		Markus Scherer, alternate		x
		Katsuhiko Momoi, alternate
		Roozbeh Pournader, alternate		x	x	x	x
IBM Corporation	Voting	Steve Loomis, primary	x	x	x	x	x
		V.S. Umamaheswaran, alternate
		Lisa Moore, alternate	x	x	x	x	x
Microsoft Corporation	Voting	Peter Constable, primary	x	x	x	x	x
		Murray Sargent, alternate		x	x	x	x
		Laurentiu Iancu, alternate		x	x	x	x
Rearden Commerce, Inc	Voting	Tex Texin, primary			x	x	x
Rearden Commerce, Inc	Voting	Craig Cummings, alternate	x	x	x	x	x
Sybase, an SAP Company	Voting	Ken Whistler, primary	x	x	x	x	x
Sybase, an SAP Company	Voting	Ian MacLeod, alternate
Unicode, Inc	Voting	Rick McGowan, primary	x	x	x	x	x
		Mike Ksar, alternate			x
		Richard Cook, alternate
		Michel Suignard, alternate		x	x	x	x
University of California at Berkeley	Voting	Deborah Anderson, primary	x	x	x	x	x
Yahoo!, Inc	Voting	Linus Tanaka, primary	x	x	x	x	x
Federal Communications Commission	Liaison	Donald Draper-Campbell
INCITS/PL22.4	Liaison	Ann Bennett
Library of Congress	Liaison	Randall K. Barry
Library of Congress	Liaison	Sally McCallum

3. Approval of the Agenda

The Chair presented the agenda and made a call for any new agenda items. It was moved by Eric Muller and seconded Rick McGowan that the agenda be approved. The motion was passed by unanimous consent.

4. Approval of meeting minutes from L2 #227

The minutes of meeting L2 #227, February 6-10, 2012, Sunnyvale, document L2-2012-00005, were reviewed. No issues were raised. It was moved by Peter Constable and seconded by Steven Loomis to accept those minutes. The motion was passed by unanimous consent.

5. Reports and liaisons

The Chair summarized highlights from the INCITS Annual Officer's Symposium on April 23-24.

6. Ballots

6.1 New ballots

Doc#	Subject	Action Item #
Action Item 41 (multiple docs; scroll down on Action Item page)	Recommendation to INCITS EB for USNB vote in response to ISO/IEC 10646:2012/DAM 1, Information technology - Universal Coded Character Set (UCS) AMENDMENT 1: Linear A, Palmyrene, Manichaean, Khojki, Khudawadi, Bassa Vah, Duployan, and other characters It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Lisa Moore to recommend that INCITS EB to vote to approve with comments in L2-2012-00007. The motion passed 10:0:0:0. For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: none	41
Action Item 39 (multiple docs; scroll down on Action Item page)	Recommendation to INCITS EB for USNB vote in response to ISO/IEC 14651:2011/DAM 1, Information technology - International string ordering and comparison - Method for comparing character strings and description of the common template tailorable ordering AMENDMENT 1 It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Rick McGowan to recommend that INCITS EB vote to approve. The motion passed 10:0:0:0. For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: none	39
	Recommendation to the INCITS EB for review in response to JTC 1 N 11050, Proposed Modifications to SC 2 Programme of Work Approval of the Project Subdivision Proposal for ISO/IEC 10646:2012 PDAM2 It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Roozbeh Pournader to recommend that INCITS EB approve the project subdivision. The motion passed 10:0:0:0. For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: none	42
SC 2 N4228 (Large download)	Position for USNB vote in response to SC 2 N4228, ISO/IEC 10646:2012/pDAmd.2, Information technology — Universal Coded Character Set (UCS) — AMENDMENT 2: Caucasian Albanian, Psalter Pahlavi, Old Hungarian, Mahajani, Grantha, Modi, Pahawh Hmong, Mende, and other characters It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Deborah Anderson to disapprove with comments in L2-2012-00008. If comments te.1, te.3, and te.4. are accommodated, the U.S. will change its vote to "Yes". The motion passed 10:0:0:0. For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: none	40
	Recommendation to INCITS EB regarding adoption of ISO/IEC 10646:2011 as an American National Standard It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Peter Edberg to recommend the adoption of ISO/IEC 10646:2011 as an American National Standard. The motion passed 10:0:0:0. For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: none	35
	Recommendation to INCITS EB regarding adoption of ISO/IEC 14651:2011, Information technology -- International string ordering and comparison -- Method for comparing character strings and description of the common template tailorable ordering, as an American National Standard It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Steven Loomis to recommend adoption of ISO/IEC 14651:2011 as an American National Standard. The motion passed 10:0:0:0. For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: none	36
L2-2012-SC35-00007	Administrative Item: Call for SC 35 membership in the Joint Advisory Committee of ISO/IEC 15897 It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Rick McGowan to nominate Steven Loomis as USNB representative to the Joint Advisory Committee of ISO/IEC 15897. The motion passed 9:0:0:1. For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: Microsoft	45

6.2 U.S. Contributions to ISO

It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Ken Whistler to send the following documents as US contributions to SC2/WG2:

L2-2012-00007, Comments on ISO/IEC 10646:2012/DAM 1
L2-2012-00008, Comments on ISO/IEC 10646:2012/PDAM 2
L2-2012-00009, Proposed Additions

The motion passed 10:0:0:0.

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: none

6.3 Other ballots

Subject	Action Item #
It was moved by Ken Whistler and seconded by Craig Cummings to record that L2 doesn't have the expertise in this area to comment on the following and recommends abstention. L2-2012-SC35-00005, CD Information technology — User interfaces — Principal voice commands — Part 1: Framework and general guidance L2-2012-SC35-00006, CD Information technology — User interfaces — Principal voice commands — Part 4: Management of spoken command registration The motion passed 10:0:0:0. For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: none	43,44

Subject

Action Item #

It was moved by Ken Whistler and seconded by Craig Cummings to record that L2 doesn't have the expertise in this area to comment on the following and recommends abstention.

L2-2012-SC35-00005, CD Information technology — User interfaces — Principal voice commands — Part 1: Framework and general guidance
L2-2012-SC35-00006, CD Information technology — User interfaces — Principal voice commands — Part 4: Management of spoken command registration

The motion passed 10:0:0:0.

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: none

43,44

7. International meetings

7.1 Future meetings

SC2 #18, Chiang Mai, Thailand (alternative: Berlin, Germany), October 26, 2012
SC2 #19, Vilnius, Lithuania, June 14, 2013

OWG-SORT #15, Chiang Mai, Thailand (alternative: Berlin, Germany), October 22-26, 2012
OWG-SORT #16, Vilnius, Lithuania, June 10-14, 2013

WG2 #60, Chiang Mai, Thailand (alternative: Berlin, Germany), October 22-26, 2012
WG2 #61, Vilnius, Lithuania, June 10-14, 2013

IRG #37, Mountain View, CA, USA, November 7-11, 2011
IRG #38, Gyeongju, Korea, June 18-22, 2012
IRG #39, Hanoi, Vietnam, November 12-16, 2012

SC 35 #27, Montréal, Canada, August 27-31, 2012
SC 35 #28, Republic of Korea, February 25-March 1, 2013 (tentative)
SC 35 #29, Canada, August 26-30, 2013 (tentative)

Subject	Action Item #
Delegation to SC 35/WG 5 #27 It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Ken Whistler to delegate Steven Loomis to the SC 35/WG 5 meeting in Montréal, Canada. The motion passed 9:0:0:1. For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: Microsoft	29

Subject

Action Item #

Delegation to SC 35/WG 5 #27

It was moved by Craig Cummings and seconded by Ken Whistler to delegate Steven Loomis to the SC 35/WG 5 meeting in Montréal, Canada.

The motion passed 9:0:0:1.

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Rearden Commerce, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: Microsoft

8. Upcoming meetings

UTC 132/L2 229: July 30 - August 3, 2012, Redmond, host Microsoft
UTC 133/L2 230: November 5-9, 2012, Cupertino, host Apple (tentative)
UTC 134/L2 231: January 28 - February 1, 2013, San Jose, host IBM (tentative)
UTC 135/L2 232: May 6-10, 2013, San José, host Adobe (tentative)

9. Action Items

Action items are recorded in the Action Items section of ICMS.

10. Adjournment

It was moved by Ken Whistler and seconded by Eric Muller to adjourn the meeting on May 10, 2012, at 4:00 pm. The motion was passed by unanimous consent.