Draft Minutes of UTC Meeting 161
Sunnyvale, CA — October 7-10, 2019
Hosted by Apple
UTC #161 Agenda
Revision date: November 01, 2019
Monday, October 7, 2019
Hosted by Apple, Sunnyvale
Meeting opened at 10:30 am.
11 Full members, 4 Institutional, 2 supporting.
Full Members in regular attendance: 7
Institutional Members in regular attendance: 2
Supporting Members in regular attendance: 1
Quorum: 5.5
7 members represented: Adobe, Apple, Microsoft, IBM, Facebook, UCB, Google
A.5.2.1 Review of open action items [L2/SD2]
Oral review.
Roll call adjustment: Emojipedia now represented.
7.5 members represented: Adobe, Apple, Microsoft, IBM, Facebook, UCB, Google, Emojipedia
A.5.1.1 Approve UTC meeting 159 minutes [L2/19-270]
[161-C1] Consensus: Approve minutes of UTC #160 as documented in L2/19-270 with corrections made during the meeting.
A.6 Calendar review
UTC #168, tentatively hosted by Google.
Looking for new host, UTC #162.
Date change: UTC 166 changed to January 19-21, 2021, host Google.
Unicode BOD scheduled for Monday, January 25, 2021.
Other dates confirmed:
UTC #167, April 26-30, 2021. Hosted by Adobe, San Jose.
UTC #165, October 6-9, 2020. Hosted by Apple, Sunnyvale.
B.10.11 Issue 406: Proposed Update UAX #14, Unicode Line Breaking Algorithm
B.10.11.1.2 Proposal to update some statements about space characters in
Unicode Standard Annex #14: Unicode Line Breaking Algorithm [Schneider,
L2/19-317]
[161-A1] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Marcel Schneider's document L2/19-317.
B.9.1 CLDR Liaison report [Davis, Edberg]
Oral report by Mark Davis.
[161-A2] Action Item for Mark Davis, Markus Scherer: Produce a document about the kinds of changes they wish to be avoided to prevent unnecessary changes in the beta release, after the CLDR/ICU December 4, 2019 snapshot.
Lunch and ad-hoc meetings, 12:30 - 14:00.
E.1.4 Additional RGI emoji ZWJ sequences for women/men holding hands [Edberg, Holbrook, L2/19-275R2]
[161-A3] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the wording of action items 160-A24 through 160-A25 referring to L2/19-275R so they refer to L2/19-275R2.
B.10.10 Issue 405: Proposed Update UTS #51, Unicode Emoji
B.10.10.1.1 General feedback [L2/19-325]
B.10.10.2 Document for review [Davis, Edberg, L2/19-351]
[161-A4] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to feedback from William Overington [Tue Sep 24 18:20:35 CDT 2019] and [Fri Sep 27 12:47:44 CDT 2019] and [Mon Sep 30 11:03:33 CDT 2019].
[161-A5] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to feedback from Yannis Haralambous [Fri Sep 27 08:54:07 CDT 2019] in PRI #405.
[161-A6] Action Item for Mark Davis, Peter Edberg: Update UTS #51 based on feedback from David Corbett [Tue Oct 1 18:54:53 CDT 2019].
[161-A7] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to feedback from David Corbett [Tue Oct 1 18:54:53 CDT 2019].
[161-A8] Action Item for Mark Davis: Move section C.2 of UTS #51 to a separate document.
[161-A9] Action Item for Mark Davis: Consider David Corbett's feedback of [Tue Oct 1 18:54:53 CDT 2019] on the QID proposal in UTS #51. See PRI #405.
[161-A10] Action Item for Mark Davis, Peter Edberg: Remove the review notes UTS #51 that allow tag sequences within ZWJ sequences.
[161-A11] Action Item for Mark Davis: Produce a document that clearly outlines the pluses and minuses of making the grammar for emoji ZWJ sequences and modifer sequences more general.
B.13.1 Proposal to Adjust Identifier Properties [Freytag, et al, L2/19-329]
Long discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
D.3.1 Alternative encodings for Malayalam “nta” [Hai, L2/19-345]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
B.7 UC Berkeley Department of Linguistics - Script Encoding Initiative
B.7.1 Liaison report [Anderson, L2/19-344]]
Oral report by Deborah Anderson.
B.7.2 Indigenous language report [Cummings]
Oral report by Craig Cummings.
B.2.2.3 TC37/SC2
B.2.2.3.1 Liaison report [Constable]
Oral report by Peter Constable.
C.6.2 Proposal to encode an Arabic qaf with dot below [van Putten, Pournader, L2/19-313]
[161-C2] Consensus: Accept U+08B5 ARABIC LETTER QAF WITH DOT BELOW AND NO DOTS ABOVE for encoding in a future version of the standard, with properties as given in L2/19-313.
[161-A12] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+08B5 ARABIC LETTER QAF WITH DOT BELOW AND NO DOTS ABOVE. See document L2/19-313.
[161-A13] Action Item for Lorna Evans: Provide a font to Michel Suignard for printing U+08B5 ARABIC LETTER QAF WITH DOT BELOW AND NO DOTS ABOVE.
C.6.3 Proposal to encode two more Arabic honorifics [Pournader, Jibaly, L2/19-319]
[161-C3] Consensus: Accept U+FD4C ARABIC LIGATURE SALLALLAHU ALAYHI WAAALIHEE WA-SALLAM and U+FD4D ARABIC LIGATURE ALAYHAA AS-SALAAM for encoding in a future version of the standard.
[161-A14] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+FD4C ARABIC LIGATURE SALLALLAHU ALAYHI WAAALIHEE WA-SALLAM and U+FD4D ARABIC LIGATURE ALAYHAA AS-SALAAM. See document L2/19-319.
[161-A15] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader: Give a font to Michel Suignard for printing U+FD4C ARABIC LIGATURE SALLALLAHU ALAYHI WAAALIHEE WA-SALLAM and U+FD4D ARABIC LIGATURE ALAYHAA AS-SALAAM. See document L2/19-319.
[161-C4] Consensus: Accept 39 Arabic characters from L2/19-306: 10 characters in the Arabic Extended-A block (U+08C9..U+08D2); 28 characters in a new Arabic Extended-B block (U+0870..U+0888 and U+089D..U+089F, with the range of the new block extending from U+0870..U+089F); 1 character in Arabic Presentation Forms-A (U+FBC2), for encoding in a future version of the standard:
U+0870 ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH ATTACHED FATHA U+0871 ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH ATTACHED TOP RIGHT FATHA U+0872 ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH RIGHT MIDDLE STROKE U+0873 ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH LEFT MIDDLE STROKE U+0874 ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH ATTACHED KASRA U+0875 ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH ATTACHED BOTTOM RIGHT KASRA U+0876 ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH ATTACHED ROUND DOT ABOVE U+0877 ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH ATTACHED RIGHT ROUND DOT U+0878 ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH ATTACHED LEFT ROUND DOT U+0879 ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH ATTACHED ROUND DOT BELOW U+087A ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH DOT ABOVE U+087B ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH ATTACHED TOP RIGHT FATHA AND DOT ABOVE U+087C ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH RIGHT MIDDLE STROKE AND DOT ABOVE U+087D ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH ATTACHED BOTTOM RIGHT KASRA AND DOT ABOVE U+087E ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH ATTACHED TOP RIGHT FATHA AND LEFT RING U+087F ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH RIGHT MIDDLE STROKE AND LEFT RING U+0880 ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH ATTACHED BOTTOM RIGHT KASRA AND LEFT RING U+0881 ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH ATTACHED RIGHT HAMZA U+0882 ARABIC LETTER ALEF WITH ATTACHED LEFT HAMZA U+0883 ARABIC TATWEEL WITH OVERSTRUCK HAMZA U+0884 ARABIC TATWEEL WITH OVERSTRUCK WAW U+0885 ARABIC TATWEEL WITH TWO DOTS BELOW U+0886 ARABIC LETTER THIN YEH U+0887 ARABIC BASELINE ROUND DOT U+0888 ARABIC RAISED ROUND DOT U+089D ARABIC SUPERSCRIPT ALEF MOKHASSAS U+089E ARABIC DOUBLED MADDA U+089F ARABIC HALF MADDA OVER MADDA U+08C9 ARABIC SMALL FARSI YEH U+08CA ARABIC SMALL HIGH FARSI YEH U+08CB ARABIC SMALL HIGH YEH BARREE WITH TWO DOTS BELOW U+08CC ARABIC SMALL HIGH WORD SAH U+08CD ARABIC SMALL HIGH ZAH U+08CE ARABIC LARGE ROUND DOT ABOVE U+08CF ARABIC LARGE ROUND DOT BELOW U+08D0 ARABIC SUKUN BELOW U+08D1 ARABIC LARGE CIRCLE BELOW U+08D2 ARABIC ROUND DOT INSIDE LARGE CIRCLE BELOW U+FBC2 ARABIC SYMBOL WASLA ABOVE
[161-A16] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include 39 Arabic characters. See above consensus 161-C4.
[161-A17] Action Item for Lorna Evans: Provide a font to Michel Suignard for printing 39 characters accepted in consensus 161-C4 above.
[161-A18] Action Item for Lorna Evans, Bob Hallissey, Roozbeh Pournader: Update UTS #53 for 39 new Arabic characters.
[161-A19] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Add annotations to the nameslist based on pages 29 and 30 of L2/19-306, for Unicode version 13.0.
Meeting adjourned for the day at 17:35.
Tuesday, October 8, 2019
Meeting opened at 9:30 am.
7 members represented: Adobe, Apple, Microsoft, IBM, Facebook, UCB, Google
B.3.2 Proposal to clarify radical assignments in IRG working sets and other submissions [Lunde, et al, L2/19-300]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
B.3.3 US/Unicode Activity Report for IRG #53 [Lunde, L2/19-347]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
B.10.7 Issue 402: Proposed Update UAX #50, Unicode Vertical Text Layout
B.10.7.1.1 General feedback [L2/19-325]
B.10.7.2 Document for review [Lunde, L2/19-354]
[161-A20] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Extend the closing date the closing dates for all PRIs for Unicode 13.0 UAXes to January 6, 2020.
[161-A21] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Extend the closing date for PRI #405 for UTS #51 to January 6, 2020.
B.10.4 Issue 399: Proposed Update UAX #45, U-Source Ideographs
B.10.4.1.1 General feedback [L2/19-325]
B.10.4.1.2 Proposal to add 96 place names used ideographs to UAX #45 [Wang, L2/19-308R]
B.10.4.1.2.1 Regarding Proposed Additions to UAX #45 [Jenkins, L2/19-309]
B.10.4.2 Document for review [Jenkins, et al, L2/19-357]
[161-A22] Action Item for John Jenkins: Review feedback from William Nelson on [Thu Oct 3 01:20:12 CDT 2019] and incorporate into UAX #45 and data files as appropriate, for Unicode version 13.0.
Short break.
B.10.5.1.4 Unihan kJapaneseKun & kJapaneseOn Error Report [Mariani, L2/19-321]
[161-A23] Action Item for Ken Lunde: Follow up with Jim Breen on L2/19-321 and associated data files, and provide updated data files to John Jenkins for a future version of the standard.
B.10.5.1.2 Unihan kIRG sources modifications applied to Unicode 13.0 and ISO/IEC 10646 6th ed [Suignard, Lunde, L2/19-301]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
B.10.5.1.3 Additional Unihan kIRG sources modifications applied to Unicode 13.0 and ISO/IEC 10646 6th edition [Suignard, Lunde, L2/19-302]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
B.10.5 Issue 400: Proposed Update UAX #38, Unicode Han Database (Unihan) B.10.5.1.1 General feedback [L2/19-325]
[161-A24] Action Item for John Jenkins: Make updates to UAX #38 and the Unihan database based on feedback from Jaemin Chung [Sun Jul 14 20:47:53 CDT 2019], for Unicode version 13.0.
[161-A25] Action Item for John Jenkins: Make updates to the references in UAX #38 based on feedback from Eiso Chan [Thu Sep 19 20:19:09 CDT 2019].
B.10.4.1.2 Proposal to add 96 place names used ideographs to UAX #45 [Wang, L2/19-308R]
[161-A26] Action Item for Ken Lunde: Forward document L2/19-308R to the IRG.
B.10.4.1.2.1 Regarding Proposed Additions to UAX #45 [Jenkins, L2/19-309]
[161-A27] Action Item for John Jenkins: Update the text of UAX #45 based on comments in L2/19-309, for Unicode version 13.0.
B.11.1 UTS #10, Unicode Collation
[161-A28] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Prepare a proposed update for UTS #10.
[161-A28a] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Post proposed update for UTS #10.
B.10.3 Issue 398: Proposed Update UAX #44, Unicode Character Database
B.10.3.1.1 General feedback [L2/19-325]
[161-A29] Action Item for Mark Davis, Peter Edberg, Editorial Committee: Update the definition of emoji component in ED5 and the definition of Emoji_Component to match the data, based on feedback from David Corbett [Tue Oct 1 19:14:18 CDT 2019] in PRI #398.
[161-A30] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the text of UAX #44 based on feedback from David Corbett [Tue Oct 1 19:14:18 CDT 2019] in PRI #398.
B.10.6 Issue 401: Proposed Update UAX #24, Unicode Script Property
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
Short break.
C.6.5 Proposal to encode Bosnian Arabic characters [Jacquerye, L2/19-339]
[161-C5] Consensus: Accept U+0889 ARABIC LETTER NOON WITH INVERTED SMALL V and U+088A ARABIC LETTER HAH WITH INVERTED SMALL V BELOW for encoding in the new Arabic Extended-B block, with properties as document in document L2/19-339, for encoding in a future version of the standard.
[161-A31] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+0889 ARABIC LETTER NOON WITH INVERTED SMALL V and U+088A ARABIC LETTER HAH WITH INVERTED SMALL V BELOW.
[161-A32] Action Item for Lorna Evans: Provide a font to Michel Suignard printing for U+0889 ARABIC LETTER NOON WITH INVERTED SMALL V and U+088A ARABIC LETTER HAH WITH INVERTED SMALL V BELOW. See document L2/19-339.
C.6.6 Proposal to encode Javanese and Sundanese Arabic characters [Jacquerye, L2/19-340]
[161-C6] Consensus: Accept three characters: U+088B ARABIC LETTER TAH WITH DOT BELOW, U+088C ARABIC LETTER TAH WITH THREE DOTS BELOW, and U+088D ARABIC LETTER KEHEH WITH TWO DOTS VERTICALLY BELOW, with properties as documented in L2/19-340, for encoding in a future version of the standard.
[161-A33] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+088B ARABIC LETTER TAH WITH DOT BELOW, U+088C ARABIC LETTER TAH WITH THREE DOTS BELOW, and U+088D ARABIC LETTER KEHEH WITH TWO DOTS VERTICALLY BELOW. See document L2/19-340.
[161-A34] Action Item for Lorna Evans: Provide a font to Michel Suignard for printing U+088B ARABIC LETTER TAH WITH DOT BELOW, U+088C ARABIC LETTER TAH WITH THREE DOTS BELOW, and U+088D ARABIC LETTER KEHEH WITH TWO DOTS VERTICALLY BELOW. See document L2/19-340.
[161-A35] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Work with Denis Jacquerye to create a proposal summary form for L2/19-340.
C.6.4 Proposal to add four new Arabic characters for Balochi language [Rehan, L2/19-320]
[161-A36] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader, Deborah Anderson: Respond to author of L2/19-320 that the characters are already supported in the standard.
B.10.12 Issue 407: Proposed Update UAX #31, Unicode Identifier and Pattern Syntax
B.10.12.1.1 General feedback [L2/19-325]
B.10.12.2 Document for review [Davis, Chapman, L2/19-349]
[161-C7] Consensus: Move the three bottom non-script rows of Table 4 in UAX #31 to UTS #39, and make appropriate changes in the surrounding text, for Unicode version 13.0.
[161-A37] Action Item for Mark Davis, Chris Chapman, Editorial Committee: Remove the three bottom non-script rows of Table 4 in UAX #31, and make appropriate changes in the surrounding text, for Unicode version 13.0.
[161-A38] Action Item for Mark Davis, Michel Suignard, Editorial Committee: Add the information from the three bottom non-script rows of Table 4 in UAX #31 to the data files of UTS #39, and make any necessary changes to the text in section 3.1, for Unicode version 13.0.
C.7.4 A note on OpenType implementation of ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic text [Nederhof, L2/19-331]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
C.8 Revisiting the Encoding of ProtoSinaitic in Unicode [Pandey, L2/19-299]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
Lunch break and ad hocs from 12:20 - 14:00.
E.1.1.1 ESC Recommendations for 2019Q4 UTC [ESC/Davis, L2/19-363]
[161-C8] Consensus: Authorize an emoji version 12.1 with all the emoji files, the additional content being: a Readme, a new version of the test file, and a new version of emoji ZWJ sequences file. See item 1 of document L2/19-363.
[161-A39] Action Item for Mark Davis: Create the new 12.1 emoji data files.
[161-A40] Action Item for Mark Davis, Peter Edberg, Rick McGowan: Release emoji 12.1.
[161-C9] Consensus: Change the ZWJ sequence for polar bear from using white square to using snowflake.
[161-A41] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update the emoji ZWJ data file to change the ZWJ sequence for polar bear from using white square to using snowflake, for Unicode version 13.0.
[161-A42] Action Item for Mark Davis, Peter Edberg, Editorial Committee: Update the UTS #51 with to reflect change in representation for polar bear.
B.10.2 Issue 396: Proposed Update UAX #29, Unicode Text Segmentation
B.10.2.1.1 General feedback [L2/19-325]
B.10.2.2 Document for review [Davis, Chapman, L2/19-359]
[161-A43] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader: Investigate characters mentioned by David Corbett in feedback on PRI #396 of [Tue Jul 30 12:55:18 CDT 2019], for script extensions and exemplar characters.
[161-A44] (Duplicate action removed.)
[161-A45] Action Item for Liang Hai, Roozbeh Pournader: Provide editorial notes that consider use of ZWNJ in GCB for Indic languages such as Bangla and Khmer to the editors of UAX #29. See feedback from Theodore Beers [Fri Aug 23 14:17:34 CDT 2019] in PRI #396.
[161-A46] Action Item for Rick McGowan, Liang Hai: Respond to feedback from Yichao 'Peak' Ji of [Fri Sep 20 15:07:12 CDT 2019] in PRI #396 and say that UTC would need a fuller proposal in order to take it up for consideration.
B.10.11 Issue 406: Proposed Update UAX #14, Unicode Line Breaking Algorithm B.10.11.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/19-350]
[161-A47] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the documentation of East Asian Width in UAX #44 to mention that the property is used in the Linebreak algorithm.
[161-A48] Action Item for Mark Davis: Fix references to emoji data in UAX #29, for Unicode version 13.0.
Short break.
B.4.2 On encoding policy of Gongche notations and upcoming para-ideographs [Wang, L2/19-346]
[161-A49] Action Item for Ken Lunde: Investigate creating a Unihan property for para-ideographs. See document L2/19-346.
C.9 Proposal for encoding the Toto script [Anderson, L2/19-330]
[161-C10] Consensus: Accept 31 Toto characters at U+1E290..U+1E2AE in block Toto at U+1E290..U+1E2BF with properties as documented in L2/19-330 for encoding in a future version of the standard.
[161-A50] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include 31 Toto characters at U+1E290..U+1E2AE in block Toto at U+1E290..U+1E2BF.
[161-A51] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Provide a font to Michel Suignard for printing the Toto script chart.
[161-A52] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Provide feedback to the Toto community. See L2/19-330.
Meeting adjourned for the day at 17:25.
Wednesday, October 9, 2019
Meeting opened at 10:30 am.
7 members represented: Adobe, Apple, Google Facebook, IBM, Microsoft, UCB
C.13 Revised proposal to add a character used in printed Glagolitic works to the UCS [Vukojević, L2/19-288R]
[161-C11] Consensus: Accept U+2C2F GLAGOLITIC CAPITAL LETTER CAUDATE CHRIVI and U+2C5F GLAGOLITIC SMALL LETTER CAUDATE CHRIVI with properties as documented in L2/19-288R for encoding in a future version of the standard.
[161-A53] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+2C2F GLAGOLITIC CAPITAL LETTER CAUDATE CHRIVI and U+2C5F GLAGOLITIC SMALL LETTER CAUDATE CHRIVI. See document L2/19-288R.
[161-A54] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Provide a font to Michel Suignard for printing U+2C2F GLAGOLITIC CAPITAL LETTER CAUDATE CHRIVI and U+2C5F GLAGOLITIC SMALL LETTER CAUDATE CHRIVI. See document L2/19-288R.
D.7 Proposal to encode the Abbreviation Sign for Takri [Srinidi, Sridatta, L2/19-264]
[161-C12] Consensus: Accept U+116B9 TAKRI ABBREVIATION SIGN with properties as documented in L2/19-264, for encoding in a future version of the standard.
[161-A55] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+116B9 TAKRI ABBREVIATION SIGN. See document L2/19-264.
B.13.1 Proposal to Adjust Identifier Properties [Freytag, et al, L2/19-329R]
[161-A56] Action Item for Asmus Freytag: Provide a list of CJK unified ideographs that are recommended for common use.
[161-C13] Consensus: Change the identifier type of the 21 characters listed in section 4 of L2/19-329R to "recommend". For Unicode version 13.0.
[161-A57] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update the UTS #39 data files for Unicode version 13.0. See document L2/19-329R.
[161-A58] Action Item for Mark Davis, Michel Suignard, Karan Miśra, Asmus Freytag: Review the list of characters in section six (6) of L2/19-329R and suggest changes to identifier type.
[161-A59] Action Item for Mark Davis, Michel Suignard, Karan Miśra, Asmus Freytag: Review the list of characters in section seven (7) of L2/19-329R and suggest changes to identifier type.
[161-A60] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Review the suggestions in Appendix 1 of L2/19-329R and make appropriate changes to UTS #39, for Unicode version 13.0.
[161-A61] Action Item for Mark Davis, Editorial Committee: Review the suggestions in Appendix 2 of L2/19-329R and make appropriate changes to UAX #31, for Unicode version 13.0.
Lunch and ad-hocs 11:40 - 13:00.
C.10 Proposal to encode the Northern Palaeohispanic script [Ferrer i Jané, et al, L2/19-332]
C.11 Proposal to encode the Southern Palaeohispanic script [Ferrer i Jané, et al, L2/19-333]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
B.14.1.1 UTC 161 Egyptian Hieroglyphs Ad Hoc report [Anderson, L2/19-366]
Oral report by Deborah Anderson.
D.2 Proposal to encode two Balinese punctuation marks [Yang, Perdana, L2/19-318]
[161-C14] Consensus: Accept U+1B7D BALINESE PANTI LANTANG and U+1B7E BALINESE PAMADA LANTANG, with properties as documented in L2/19-318, for encoding in a future version of the standard.
[161-A62] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the pipeline to include U+1B7D BALINESE PANTI LANTANG and U+1B7E BALINESE PAMADA LANTANG. See L2-19-318.
[161-A63] Action Item for Ben Yang: Provide a font to Michel Suignard for printing U+1B7D BALINESE PANTI LANTANG and U+1B7E BALINESE PAMADA LANTANG. See L2-19-318.
D.4 Comments on Tibetan DOUBLE SHAY (response to Error report by D. Corbett) [West, et al, L2/19-337]
[161-A64] Action Item for Lisa Moore, Editorial Committee: Update the use of Tibetan shad and double-shad in the core specification for Unicode version 13.0.
C.4.2 Supplemental proposal on the Latin letter S with short stroke overlay [Pentzlin, L2/19-260]
[161-A65] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Karl Pentzlin re L2/19-260 based on script ad-hoc analysis in L2/19-343, page 2.
C.4.3 Proposal to encode Latin letters for the Komi Latin alphabet (supplementing L2/19-224) [Pentzlin, L2/19-261]
[161-A66] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to Karl Pentzlin re L2/19-261 based on script ad-hoc analysis in L2/19-343.
C.14 Manichaean Error Report (contained in Public Review doc L2/19-272) [Anderson, et al, L2/19-343]
[161-A67] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Relay the script ad-hoc feedback in L2/19-343 Section 10 Manichaean (page 11) to David Corbett.
Short break.
E.1.1.1 ESC Recommendations for 2019Q4 UTC [ESC/Davis, L2/19-363]
[161-C15] Consensus: Approve 18 new draft candidates, removal of 10 draft candidates, and a change to Polar Bear and associated data file changes as documented in section 2 of L2/19-363 for emoji version 13.0.
[161-A68] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update emoji ZWJ sequence file and emoji test file, for emoji version 13.0. See above Consensus 161-C15. See document L2/19-363.
[161-A69] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update the emoji charts for version 13.0. See document L2/19-363.
[161-A70] Action Item for Peter Edberg, Editorial Committee: Update UTS #51 as needed for version 13.0. See document L2/19-363.
[161-C16] Consensus: Add 14 additional provisional candidates as documented in section 3 of L2/19-363, targeted at Unicode 14.0.
[161-A71] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update provisional candidate charts. See above consensus 161-C16 and document L2/19-363.
B.10.10 Issue 405: Proposed Update UTS #51, Unicode Emoji
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
E.1.1.2 Dot releases after Emoji 13 to add additional ZWJ sequences
[161-C17] Consensus: Retain emoji-data.txt and emoji-variation-sequences.txt in the UCD for Unicode version 13.0, but release other emoji sequences files and the test file in the existing Public/emoji directory.
[161-A72] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Update the Public/13.0.0 UCD beta directory for Unicode 13.0.
[161-A73] Action Item for Ken Whistler, Editorial Committee: Update UAX #44 to reflect the above consensus 161-C17 about emoji data files.
[161-A74] Action Item for Mark Davis: Make necessary changes in emoji data files and have two Readme files, one for the UCD/emoji directory and one for the Public/emoji directory.
[161-A75] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Extend the closing date for PRI #405 to January 6, 2020.
Short break.
B.10.9.1.2 Feedback on Proposed Update UTS #18 [Scherer, L2/19-364R]
[161-C18] Consensus: Specify that properties of strings act as an alternation, sorted with longest strings first.
[161-A76] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update UTS #18, in particular sections 1.2 and 1.3. See above Consensus 161-C18.
[161-C19] Consensus: As documented in item 2 of L2/19-364R2, remove 4 properties and their examples from section 2.7 of UTS #18.
[161-A77] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update section 2.7 of UTS #18. See document L2/19-364R2.
[161-A78] Action Item for Mark Davis: Take suggestions from section 3.1 of L2/19-364R2 into UTS #18.
[161-C20] Consensus: Add OtherProperties.txt to a new Regex directory to UTS #18.
[161-A79] Action Item for Markus Scherer: Provide the contents of RegexPropertyAliases.txt for UTS #18.
[161-A80] Action Item for Mark Davis: Document the new file RegexPropertyAliases.txt for UTS #18.
[161-A81] Action Item for Mark Davis: Incorporate editorial suggestions to UTS #18, as appropriate, in section 5 of document L2/19-364R2.
[161-A82] Action Item for Mark Davis: Add underscores to Identifier_Status and Identifier_Type in UTS #18 and associated data files.
[161-A83] Action Item for Mark Davis: Add underscores to Identifier_Status and Identifier_Type in UTS #39 and associated data files, for Unicode 13.0.
Short break.
Long discussion.
[161-A84] Action Item for Mark Davis: Make editorial changes to UTS #18 as appropriate based on PRI #404 feedback.
There will be an ad-hoc meeting on UTS #18, Thursday during lunch.
[161-A85] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Extend the closing date of PRI #404 to January 6, 2020.
C.4.1 Proposal to add two characters for Middle Scots [Everson, L2/19-180R]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
C.15 Proposal to encode Western Cham in the UCS [Hosken, L2/19-217R2]
[161-A86] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Forward the script ad-hoc comments on L2/19-217R2 to Martin Hosken.
D.6 Representation of conjuncts involving Ra in Dogra script [Srinidi, Sridatta, L2/19-263]
[161-A87] Action Item for Liang Hai, Editorial Committee: Update the description of representing conjuncts involving "ra" in Dogra, based on document L2/19-263, for Unicode version 13.0.
Meeting adjourned for the day at 17:25.
Thursday, October 10, 2019
Meeting opened at 9:30 am.
7 members represented: Apple, Adobe, Google, IBM, Microsoft, UCB, Facebook
B.10.4 Issue 399: Proposed Update UAX #45, U-Source Ideographs
B.10.4.2 Document for review (new working draft) [Jenkins, et al, L2/19-357]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
B.10.5 Issue 400: Proposed Update UAX #38, Unicode Han Database (Unihan)
B.10.5.1.6 Comments on proposed kMandarin changes per 3 UTC actions & documents [Edberg, L2/19-341R]
B.10.5.1.6.1 Comments on L2/19-341 [Chung, L2/19-361]
[161-C21] Consensus: Accept the kMandarin values per suggested resolutions in L2/19-341R for Unicode version 13.0.
[161-A88] Action Item for Peter Edberg: Provide a machine readable list of the updated kMandarin values. See L2/19-341R.
[161-A89] Action Item for John Jenkins: Update the Unihan database with updated kMandarin values based on Peter Edberg's feedback, for Unicode version 13.0. See L2/19-341R.
B.10.5.1.7 Proposal to change some kMandarin values to follow 通用规范汉字表 [Chung, L2/19-362]
[161-C22] Consensus: Accept the kMandarin values documented in L2/19-362, for Unicode version 13.0.
[161-A90] Action Item for John Jenkins: Update the Unihan database based on L2/19-362 for Unicode version 13.0.
B.10.5.1.5 Issues with kSpoofingVariant data [Nelson, L2/19-328]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
B.10.5.1.8 Proposal to define new Unihan Database property: kUnihanCore2020 [Lunde, L2/18-279R]
[161-C23] Consensus: Accept the new Unihan informative property kUnihanCore2020 as documented in L2/18-279R for Unicode version 13.0.
[161-A91] Action Item for John Jenkins: Add kUnihanCore2020 data to the Unihan database, for Unicode version 13.0.
[161-A92] Action Item for John Jenkins, Editorial Committee: Update UAX #38 to document the new informative property kUnihanCore2020, for Unicode 13.0.
[161-A93] Action Item for Eric Muller: Make sure that kUnihanCore2020 is picked up for UAX #42, for Unicode version 13.0.
[161-A94] Action Item for Ken Lunde, Editorial Committee: Add a new section to the core spec to document kUnihanCore2020, for Unicode version 13.0.
B.10.1 Issue 395: Proposed Update UAX#15, Unicode Normalization Forms
B.10.1.1.1 General feedback [L2/19-325]
B.10.1.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/19-360]
[161-A95] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Correct the text in section 5.1, second bullet, for the description of the Tibetan content in CompositionExclusions.txt, in UAX #15, for Unicode 13.0. And copy that bullet into the header of CompositionExclusions.txt for Unicode version 13.0.
[161-A96] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to David Corbett feedback in PRI #395 [Tue Oct 1 19:01:03 CDT 2019].
B.10.8 Issue 403: Proposed Update UAX #41, Common References for Unicode Standard Annexes
B.10.8.2 Document for review [Iancu, McGowan, L2/19-353]
[161-A97] Action Item for Laurențiu Iancu: Update the links for DATA51 to reflect changes made to the location of emoji data files, and add entries for Unicode 12.1 and UTR #53 (Unicode Arabic Mark Rendering). For Unicode version 13.0.
Short break.
B.10.13.1 General feedback [L2/19-325]
[161-A98] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Adjust annotations to U+2101. See feedback from Geva Patz [Tue Oct 1 19:16:39 CDT 2019] in L2/19-325, for Unicode version 13.0.
[161-A99] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to feedback from David Corbett [Tue Oct 1 20:12:20 CDT 2019] and invite him to submit clearer text, if he wishes, based on his feedback.
[161-A100] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader: Investigate characters in feedback from David Corbett [Tue Oct 1 20:14:01 CDT 2019] in L2/19-325 and report back to UTC.
[161-A101] Action Item for Lisa Moore, Roozbeh Pournader: Consider Denis Moyogo Jacquerye's feedback of [Mon Jul 22 03:47:50 CDT 2019] in L2/19-325 on commas and cedillas.
[161-A102] Action Item for Roozbeh Pournader: Suggest text about use of BOM for section 23.8 of the core specification. See feedback from Shmuel Metz [Thu Aug 29 13:30:11 CDT 2019] in L2/19-325.
[161-A103] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Respond to feedback from Shmuel Metz [Thu Aug 29 13:30:11 CDT 2019] in L2/19-325.
B.12.3 Core spec changes for 2018 Henri Sivonen docs [Scherer, L2/19-367]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
Lunch break and ad-hocs 11:30 - 12:40.
[161-A104] Action Item for Markus Scherer, Editorial Committee: Update the core spec based on L2/19-367, for Unicode version 13.0.
B.3.2 Proposal to clarify radical assignments in IRG working sets and other submissions [Lunde, et al, L2/19-300R]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
B.12.4 Authorize Unicode 13.0 beta [Whistler]
[161-A105] Action Item for Mark Davis: Update the description of issue for PRI #405 (for UTS #51) to include emoji charts and emoji data files.
[161-C24] Consensus: Authorize a beta review for Unicode version 13.0, to close January 6, 2020.
[161-A106] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Roll out the Unicode version 13.0 beta.
B.1.6 Review of ballot comments [Anderson]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
E.2 Currency signs missing in Unicode [Silva, L2/19-291]
[161-A107] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Relay the feedback from the script ad-hoc report, section 18 in L2/19-343, to the author of L2/19-291.
[161-A108] Action Item for Ken Whistler: Review L2/19-291 for possible updates to annotations for Unicode version 13.0.
E.3 Proposal to add additional characters into the Graphics for Legacy Computing [Li, L2/19-068R2]
[161-A109] Action Item for Rick McGowan: Relay the feedback from the script ad-hoc report, section 19 in L2/19-343, to the author of L2/19-068R2. The script ad-hoc reviewed the document and recommended 3 of the characters for encoding, however the UTC declined to pursue them.
Short break.
C.12 Expanding the “Syriac Supplement” U+0860 Block for historical glyphs and marks [Kiraz, et al, L2/19-338]
[161-A110] Action Item for Deborah Anderson: Relay the script ad-hoc feedback in L2/19-343 to authors of L2/19-338.
D.8 Saurashtra error report (contained in Public Review doc L2/19-272) [Anderson, et al, L2/19-343]
[161-A111] Action Item for Liang Hai, Roozbeh Pournader: Review the entire Saurashtra documentation and properties in the core specification and recommend updates.
D.9 Structuring Tai Tham Unicode [Hosken, L2/19-365]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
D.3.1 Alternative encodings for Malayalam “nta” [Liang, L2/19-345]
Discussion. UTC took no action at this time.
B.14.4.1 UTC 161 Mongolian Ad Hoc report
Oral report by Liang Hai.
Thanks to the host, Apple.
Meeting adjourned for the week at 14:47.
UTC Attendance
Person | Representing |
Deborah Anderson | U.C. Berkeley |
Jeremy Burge | Emojipedia |
Shane Carr | |
Christopher Chapman | Adobe |
Lee Collins | Netflix |
Peter Constable | Microsoft |
Craig Cornelius | |
Craig Cummings | VMware |
Mark Davis | |
Manish Goregaokar | Mozilla |
Liang Hai | Unicode |
Ned Holbrook | Apple |
Jennifer 8. Lee | Emojination |
Steven Loomis | IBM |
Ken Lunde | Unicode |
James Magahern | Apple |
Rick McGowan | Unicode |
Karan Miśra | Apple |
Lisa Moore | Unicode |
Roozbeh Pournader | |
Michael Saboff | Apple |
Murray Sargent | Microsoft |
Sesh Sadavisam | |
Markus Scherer | |
Sean Stewart | Apple |
Michel Suignard | Unicode |
Samantha Sunne | Emojination |
Tex Texin | Xencraft |
John Watson | |
Ken Whistler | Unicode |
Ben Yang | Panlex/Long Now |
By Phone | |
Richard Cook | Unicode |
Peter Edberg | Apple |
Lorna Evans | SIL |
John Jenkins | Apple |
Mike LaJoie | Microsoft |
Judy Safran-Aasen | Microsoft |
Members Represented
Full Member | 10/07/19 | 10/08/19 | 10/09/19 | 10/10/19 |
1. Adobe |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
2. Apple Inc. |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
3. Facebook |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
4. Google, Inc. |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
5. Huawei |
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6. IBM Corporation |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
7. Microsoft Corporation |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
8. Netflix |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
9. Oracle America, Inc. |
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10. SAP AG |
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11. Sultanate of Oman, MARA |
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Institutional Member |
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1. Bangladesh, MSICT |
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2. India, MICT |
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3. Tamil Nadu, TVA |
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4. UCB |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
Supporting Member |
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1. Emojipedia |
yes | |||
2. Monotype Imaging Corp |
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Associate Member |
||||
1. Emojination |
yes | yes | yes | |
2. SIL |
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Individual Member |
||||
1. Craig Cummings |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
2. Jennifer Lee |
yes | yes | ||
3. Liang Hai |
yes | yes | yes | yes |
4. Tex Texin |
yes | yes | ||
Liaison Member |
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Members not in regular attendance: Huawei, Tamil Nadu, Oracle, SAP, Sultanate of Oman
Quorum: 5.5