L2/24-220R3

UTC #181 Agenda

Wednesday, November 6 to Friday, November 8, 2024

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The UTC will be conducted as a hybrid online/in-person meeting. See the meeting logistics page for details.

Most topics are organized into categories according to working groups that have discussed topics in advance and provided recommendations. UTC discussions for the topic categories are pre-scheduled. Specific topics within each category will be discussed within the scheduled time window. In general, the schedule for individual topics may be fluid. In certain cases, however, specific topics may be scheduled for a specific time: see Scheduled Activies below.

Quorum will be verified each morning and throughout the meeting. All members need to make proxy designations in advance.

Dates and times shown are Pacific Standard time (UTC-08:00).

Meeting Timeline and Scheduled Activities

A tentative meeting timeline is provided below. The following individual topics are scheduled for discussion at specific times.

Agenda item / Topic Document Day and Time
G. Emoji L2/24-226 Wednesday, 1:30 pm
E. CJK & Unihan L2/24-227 Wednesday, 3:00 pm – 5:30 pm
F.3 East Asian Spacing L2/24-259 Thursday, 4:00 pm
F.4 Text Terminal Working Group report L2/24-264 Thursday, 11:45 am
A.5 Calendar review -- Friday, 10:00 am

Timeline

The following is a tentative timeline for the meeting (expand to see daily details):

Wednesday, November 6, 2024
Admin:
A.1 Quorum
A.2 Agenda
A.3 Review of prior meeting minutes
A.4 Review of UTC action items
10:30 am
C.1 Editorial Working Group report morning
C.2 Charts Working Group report morning
Liaisons:
B.1 ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 2
morning
Lunch 12:30 pm to 1:30 pm
G. Emoji 1:30 pm
D. Scripts afternoon
E. CJK & Unihan 3:00 pm
Liaisons:
B.2 IRG
afternoon

Thursday, November 7, 2024
Admin:
A.1 Quorum
9:30 am
Liaisons:
B.8 INFITT
morning
D. Scripts (cont’d) morning
Liaisons:
B.7 SEI
B.9 LSA
morning
Break around 11:35 am
F.4 Text Terminal Working Group report 11:45 am
Lunch 12:30 pm to 1:30 pm
F. Properties
F.1 PAG report
F.2 Unicode linkification
afternoon
Break around 3:45 pm
F.3 East Asian Spacing 4:00 pm
F.1 PAG report (cont’d) afternoon
Liaisons:
B.3.1 ICU-TC
B.3.2 ICU4X-TC
B.4 CLDR
B.5 ISO TC 37/SC2
B.6 ICANN
B.12 ECMA TC 39
afternoon

Friday, November 8, 2024
Admin:
A.1 Quorum
9:30 am
Liaisons:
B.10 ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22
B.11 ISO TC 46
B.13 Unicode Administration, Infrastructure Team
morning
Admin:
A.5 Calendar review
10:00 am
H.1 Release Management Group report morning
As needed:
B. Liaisons
D. Scripts
F. Properties
morning
I.1 Other feedback morning
Admin:
A.6 Closing dates for PRIs
A.7 L2 representatives
morning
Lunch 12:00 pm to 2:00 pm
INCITS/L2 meeting 2:00 pm to 3:15 pm

A. Administrative Topics

Schedule: Wednesday, 10:30 am; Thursday 9:30 am; Friday 9:30 am, 10:00 am & afternoon

Details:

A.1 Consortium membership; meeting quorum and proxies

A.2 Agenda review

A.3 Approval of minutes of prior meetings

Documents:

  • UTC #180 Minutes [L2/24-159]
  • Proposed corrections to past UTC minutes [Constable, L2/24-260]

A.4 Action item review

Documents:

A.5 Calendar review [Calendar]

A.6 PRI closing dates [Public Review Issues]

A.7 INCITS/CS&I representatives

B. Liaison Reports & Technical Topics

Schedule: various times—see meeting timeline

Details:

B.1 ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 2

Details:

B.1.1 DAmd2 to ISO/IEC 10646 6th edition (SC2/N4930)

Documents:

  • ISO/IEC 10646 6th Edition Amendment 2 Code chart (DAM2) [Michel Suignard, WG2/N5281]
  • US NB comments (INCITS CS&I/2024-00011) — discussed at July CS&I meeting
  • Comments from Unicode Consortium on 10646 DAM2 [Peter Constable, L2/24-261]

B.1.2 ISO/IEC 10646 7th edition CD1 (SC2/4940)

Documents:

  • Draft repertoire for provisionally assigned code points for Unicode (post 16.0) and ISO/IEC 10646 (post Amendment 2) [Michel Suignard, WG2/N5283]
  • Draft US NB comments

B.1.3 ISO/IEC DIS 14651 (Ed.7) (SC2/N4939)


B.1.4 Maintenance of UCS Repertoire via a Maintenance Agency

B.2 IRG (see also IRG topics under E.1)

B.3 ICU

B.3.1 ICU-TC


B.3.2 ICU4X-TC

B.4 CLDR

B.5 ISO TC 37/SC 2

B.6 IETF / ICANN

B.7 SEI Liaison Report [Anderson, L2/24-229]

B.8 INFITT

B.9 LSA

B.10 ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 [Robin Leroy, L2/24-200]

B.11 ISO TC 46

B.12 ECMA TC 39

B.13 Unicode Administration, Infrastructure Group

C. Editorial & Charts Working Groups

Schedule: Wednesday morning

Details:

C.1 Editorial Working Group Report and Recommendations for UTC #181 Meeting [EDC, L2/24-225]

Topics:

  • Unicode 16.0
  • Unicode 17.0
  • Website
  • Editorial Working Group processes
  • Comments on Public Review Issues (July 7 – October 24, 2024) routed to Editorial Working Group [Rick McGowan, L2/24-223]

C.2 Charts Working Group Report for UTC #181 [CHARTS, L2/24-230]

D. Scripts

Schedule: Wednesday afternoon; Thursday morning

Details:

D.1 Recommendations to UTC #181 July 2024 on Script Proposals [Kučera, et al, L2/24-228]

Discussion led by Script Ad-Hoc chair, Jan Kučera, and vice-chairs, Debbie Anderson and Roozbeh Pournader


D.1.1 New Scripts

  • Proposal for the encoding of « KORE SEBELI » [Mohamed Bentoura Bangoura, L2/24-246]

D.1.2 New Characters

Details:
  • Proposal to include transitional Cyrillic characters invented by I.H. Rădulescu in his proposal of the 19th Century Romanian Transitional Script and other unique characters [Marc Frincu, et al, L2/24-215]
  • Capital r with long leg (revised) [Denis Moyogo Jacquerye, L2/24-237]
  • Changing Latin script r glyphs and adding their capital characters [Denis Moyogo Jacquerye, L2/24-243]
  • Archaic Cuneiform Numerals
    • Archaic Cuneiform Numerals (revised) [Robin Leroy, et al, L2/24-210]
    • Numeric annotations and properties for cuneiform signs [Robin Leroy, L2/24-239]
  • Proposal to encode two Tangut ideographs [Eiso Chan, et al, L2/24-236 (= WG2 N5286)]
  • Unicode request for barred letters [Kirk Miller, et al, L2/24-234]
  • Unicode request for compound tone diacritics III [Kirk Miller, L2/24-232]
  • Unicode request for subscript w y z and ɣ [Kirk Miller, L2/24-219]
  • Unicode request for modifier small capital P [Kirk Miller, Denis Moyogo Jacquerye, L2/24-231]

D.1.3 New Symbols

Details:
  • Proposal to Encode a Pridnestrovian Ruble Sign [Ivan Adrianov, L2/24-134R]
  • Unicode request for triple and quadruple flat [Gavin Jared Bala, Kirk Miller, L2/24-214]
  • Unicode request for additional tremoli [Gavin Jared Bala, Kirk Miller, L2/24-213]
  • Proposal for two geometric shapes for Japanese traditional calendars [Gen Kojitani, L2/24-151]
  • Proposal to encode 11 cossic characters [Uwe Mayer, et al, L2/24-244]

D.1.4 Changes to Characters

Details:
  • Adlam glyphs update
    • Replacement of Adlam Reference Font in Codesheet to Updated Design [Neil Patel, et al, L2/24-205]
    • Evolution of Adlam Characters Since Encoding [Neil Patel, UTN #58]
  • Tifinagh and combining diacritics
    • Representing Tifinagh in Unicode [Lorna Evans and Jon Coblentz, UTN #59]
  • Annotation request for Vietnamese apex [Minh Nguyen, Kirk Miller, L2/24-111]
  • Tulu-Tigalari Conjoiner Glyph
  • Annotations for the alchemical block [Kirk Miller, L2/24-218]
  • On the Indic_Syllabic_Category of vowel carriers [Robin Leroy, L2/24-203]
  • Phonetic characters: Greek and Latin? [Denis Moyogo Jacquerye, L2/24-202]

D.1.5 Other recommendations for UTC action

Details:
  • Additional Variation Selectors for Rotations of Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphic Texts [Daniel A. Werning, et al, L2/24-238]
  • On the future of MANDAIC LETTER KAD [Ben Joeng (Yang), L2/24-133]
  • Indic_Syllabic_Category: Consonant_With_Stacker vs. Consonant_Prefixed
    • Proposal to Encode the Box-Headed script [Biswajit Mandal, L2/24-100]

D.1.6 Public Feedback

  • Comments on Public Review Issues (July 7 – October 24, 2024) routed to Script Encoding Working Group [Rick McGowan, L2/24-223]

D.1.7 No Action Required

Details:
  • Proposal to encode Vexillology Symbols in Unicode [Anshuman Pandey, L2/24-245]
  • Top Right Spacing Anusvara in Bengali/Assamese [Jan Kučera, Charles Li, L2/24-240]
  • A Letter in Support of N5266 "Proposal to Encode a Set of 128 User-Defined Variation Selectors" [Daniel Yacob, L2/24-199]
  • Preliminary presentation of constellation symbols [Kirk Miller, L2/24-235]
  • Proposal for Kuji symbol (dōman) used in Shugendō [Gen Kojitani, L2/24-216]
  • Representing Tifinagh in Unicode [Lorna Evans and Jon Coblentz, UTN #59]

D.1.8 Proposals In-Progress

Details:
  • Proposal to Encode the Pabuchi Script [Biswajit Mandal, L2/23-222]
  • Unicode request for additional Baroque ornament [Gavin Jared Bala, Kirk Miller, L2/24-233]
  • Proposal for Encoding the Mwangwego Script [Oreen Yousuf, Daniel Yacob, L2/24-241]
  • Preliminary proposal to encode Wagindara letters for the Mongolian script [YEHENARA Jiaxu, et al, L2/24-242]
  • Submission Dossier for the Libyc Script to Unicode [Société d'Histoire Nord-Africaine (SHNA), L2/24-247]
  • Proposal for encoding the Masaba script [Oreen Yousuf, L2/24-248]

D.2 Other script-related documents

Documents:

  • Proposal for Adlam Names List Modifications [Neil Patel, L2/24-204]

D.3 Algonquian Conference Trip Report (Craig Cummings)

D.4 Data for Other Ideographic Scripts

E. CJK and Unihan

Schedule: Wednesday, 3:00 pm – 5:30 pm

Details:

Discussion led by CJK and Unihan Group chair, Ken Lunde

E.1 CJK & Unihan Group Recommendations for UTC #181 Meeting [Ken Lunde, L2/24-227]

Details:
  • Public review feedback: PRI #508 Proposed Update UAX #38 (see E.2)
  • Comments on Public Review Issues (July 7 – October 24, 2024) routed to CJK and Unihan Group [Rick McGowan, L2/24-223]
  • UAX #38 Unicode Han Database (Unihan) (see also E.2)

    Documents:

    • Feedback on year-2022 proposed kMandarin additions for 2556 characters [Sharon Chen / CLDR-TC, L2/24-209]
  • UAX #45, U-source Ideographs

    Documents:

    • Proposal to Encode a Variant of 歲 [Zhiyu YUAN, L2/24-181]
    • Proposal to add one ideograph used in High School History Textbook Elective 1 [Fang Changkai, Junko, L2/24-206]
    • Proposal to add 6 characters used in Korean old maps to UAX #45 [Wenjie Dong, L2/24-212]
    • Proposal to add 47 ideographs [Junko, et al, L2/24-208]
  • Other topics / documents

    Documents / topics:

    • Proposal to add a new Script-Hybrid CJK Ideographs block [Gen Kojitani, L2/24-201]
    • Updated Provisional Unihan Database Properties
  • IRG Documents

    Documents / topics:

    • US/Unicode Activity Report for IRG #63 Meeting [Ken Lunde, L2/24-207 (= IRG/N2700)]
    • IRG Meeting #63 Recommendations and Action Items [IRG Convenor, IRG/N2702]
    • A proposal requesting a Horizontal Extension of 306 Hanja chars — Evidence ZIP (261MB) [ROK, IRG/N2643R2]
    • A request to modify the glyph for U+2E23A/KC-06640 [ROK , IRG/N2745]
    • Revised Glyphs of 11 G-Source Characters [China, IRG/N2747]
    • Update of V-Source Representative Glyphs [Vietnam, IRG/N2748]
    • UNC proposal for ethnic musical instruments of Yunnan Province (one ideograph) [China, IRG/N2691]
    • UNC proposal for 2 TCA’s UNC Characters [TCA, IRG/N2709]
    • Disunification of U+2F980 and U+2335F [TCA, IRG/N2771]

E.2 PRI #508 Proposed Update UAX #38, Unicode Han Database (Unihan)

Documents:

F. Properties and Algorithms

Schedule: Thursday 11:45 am; Thursday afternoon

Details:

F.1 PAG: UTC #181 properties feedback & recommendations [Markus Scherer, et al, L2/24-224]

Details:
  • Comments on Public Review Issues (July 2, 2024 – Oct 24, 2024) routed to Properties and Algorithms Group [Rick McGowan, L2/24-223]
  • Composing custom vulgar fractions
  • Guidance on whitespace
  • Linkification of URLs (see F.2)
  • Diacritic property for phonetic modifier letters
  • UAX #42, UCDXML
    • Name properties "control" option
    • Proposed update to UAX #42
  • Corrections to CJKRadicals.txt
  • Numeric annotations and properties for cuneiform signs [Robin Leroy, L2/24-239]
  • Properties for character proposals
    Details:
    • Proposal to add a new Script-Hybrid CJK Ideographs block [Gen Kojitani, L2/24-201]
    • Proposal for missing three Kana-Ligatures [Gen Kojitani, L2/24-150]
    • Unicode request for modifier letters with palatal hook [Kirk Miller, L2/24-144]
    • Unicode request for modifier psi and omega (revised) [Kirk Miller, L2/24-145R]
    • Modifier Sinological extensions to the IPA [Kirk Miller, L2/24-147]
    • Proposal to encode Bengali Sign Combining Anusvara Above [Jan Kučera, Charles Li, L2/24-153]
    • Miscellaneous historical and para-IPA modifier letters [Kirk Miller, L2/24-171]
    • Unicode request for 256th, 512th, and 1024th notes and rests [Gavin Jared Bala, Kirk Miller, L2/24-172]
    • Unicode request for Turkish and Arabic accidentals [Gavin Jared Bala, Kirk Miller, L2/24-174]
    • Phonetic characters: Greek and Latin? [Denis Moyogo Jacquerye, L2/24-202]
    • On the Indic_Syllabic_Category of vowel carriers [Robin Leroy, L2/24-203]
    • Archaic Cuneiform Numerals (revised) [Robin Leroy, et al, L2/24-210]
    • Unicode request for additional tremoli [Gavin Jared Bala, Kirk Miller, L2/24-213]
    • Unicode request for triple and quadruple flat [Gavin Jared Bala, Kirk Miller, L2/24-214]
    • Unicode request for subscript w y z and ɣ [Kirk Miller, L2/24-219]
    • Unicode request for modifier small capital P [Kirk Miller, Denis Moyogo Jacquerye, L2/24-231]
    • Unicode request for compound tone diacritics III [Kirk Miller, L2/24-232]
    • Unicode request for barred letters [Kirk Miller, et al, L2/24-234]
    • Proposal to encode two Tangut ideographs [, L2/24-236 (= WG2 N5286)]
    • Capital r with long leg (revised) [Denis Moyogo Jacquerye, L2/24-237]
    • Changing Latin script r glyphs and adding their capital characters [Denis Moyogo Jacquerye, L2/24-243]
  • East Asian spacing (see F.3)
  • Line breaking
    • Hyphens and Hebrew
    • CSS default behavious
    • LB property of COMBINING GRAPHEME JOINIER
    • WJ and SY in LB15a vs. LB15b
    • Problems with customization using grapheme breaks
    • Documentation of LB assignment for U+FE10
  • Collation: status of CollationTest.html
  • UTS #18, Regex: Any/Assigned/ASCII vs. General_Category
  • Emoji components and RGI_Emoji_Qualification property
  • MathClass of U+22A5 UP TACK
  • Authorization of proposed updates for Unicode 17.0

F.2 Unicode Linkification

  • Linkification of URLs [Mark Davis, L2/24-122]
  • Working Draft for Proposed Draft UTS #58 Unicode Linkification (revised) [Mark Davis, L2/24-217]

F.3 East Asian Spacing

Schedule: Thursday, 4:00 pm

  • Working Draft UTR #59, East Asian Spacing (HTML snapshot) [Koji Ishii 石井宏治, L2/24-259]

F.4 Text Terminal Working Group report [Fraser Gordon]

Schedule: Thursday, 11:45 am

  • Text Terminal Working Group report [Fraser Gordon, L2/24-264]

G. Emoji

Schedule: Wednesday, 1:30 pm

Details:

Discussion led by Emoji Working Group chair, Jennifer Daniel

G.1 Emoji Standard and Research Working Group Report for UTC #181 (2024Q4) [ESC/Jennifer Daniel, L2/24-226]

Topics:

  • Emoji 17.0

    Documents:

    • Proposal to add new emoji to represent ballet [Ruediger Landmann, L2/18-113]
    • Update on Emoji Gender and Skintone Support [ESC/Jennifer Daniel, L2/20-196]
    • Status of Emoji Gender & Skintone Support [ESC/Jennifer Daniel, L2/24-038]
    • Proposal for Emoji: Orca [Marcos Del Sol Vives, L2/24-249]
    • Inflatable Face Emoji Proposal [Jennifer Daniel, L2/24-250]
    • Proposal for Emoji: Bigfoot [ESC/Jennifer Daniel, L2/24-251]
    • Toned Multi-Person Emoji ZWJ Sequences [ESC/Jennifer Daniel, L2/24-252]
    • Apple Core Emoji [Jennifer Daniel, L2/24-253]
    • Fight Cloud Emoji Proposal [Neil Cohn, Jennifer Daniel, L2/24-254]
    • Proposal for Emoji: Treasure Chest [Jacob Dow, L2/24-255]
    • Proposal for Emoji: Trombone [Sarah Ashley, et al, L2/24-256]
    • Falling Debris Emoji [Jennifer Daniel, L2/24-257]
  • Emoji Proposal Intake

H. Unicode Release Management

Schedule: Friday morning

Details:

H.1 Release Management Group Report to UTC #181 [RMG/Peter Constable, L2/24-258]

I. Other business

Schedule: Friday afternoon

Details:

I.1 Other feedback

Documents:

  • Comments on Public Review Issues (July 7 – October 24, 2024) [Rick McGowan, L2/24-223]

Meeting Adjournment