L2/25-002R2

UTC #182 Agenda

Wednesday, January 22 to Friday, January 24, 2025

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The UTC will be conducted as a hybrid online/in-person meeting. See the meeting logistics page for details.

Most topics are organized into categories according to working groups that have discussed topics in advance and provided recommendations. UTC discussions for the topic categories are pre-scheduled. Specific topics within each category will be discussed within the scheduled time window. In general, the schedule for individual topics may be fluid. In certain cases, however, specific topics may be scheduled for a specific time: see Scheduled Activies below.

Quorum will be verified each morning and throughout the meeting. All members need to make proxy designations in advance.

Dates and times shown are Pacific Standard time (UTC-08:00).

Meeting Timeline and Scheduled Activities

A tentative meeting timeline is provided below. The following individual topics are scheduled for discussion at specific times.

Agenda item / Topic Document Day and Time
G. Emoji L2/25-008 Wednesday, 11:00 am
E. CJK & Unihan L2/25-009 Thursday, 3:00 pm – 5:30 pm
F.3 East Asian Spacing L2/25-046 Thursday, 4:15 pm

Timeline

The following is a tentative timeline for the meeting (expand to see daily details):

Wednesday, January 22, 2025
Admin:
A.1 Quorum
A.2 Agenda
A.3 Review of prior meeting minutes
A.4 Review of UTC action items
10:30 am
G. Emoji 11:00 am
C.1 Editorial Working Group report morning
C.2 Charts Working Group report morning
H.1 Release Management Group report morning
Liaisons:
B.3.2 ICU4X-TC
B.7 SEI
B.8 INFITT
B.9 LSA
B.11 ISO TC 46
B.12 ECMA TC 39
morning
Lunch 12:30 pm to 1:30 pm
D. Scripts afternoon

Thursday, January 23, 2025
Admin:
A.1 Quorum
A.5 Calendar review
9:30 am
Liaisons:
B.5 ISO TC 37/SC 2
B.10 ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22
morning
I.2 PRI #512 Unicode Conformance Model morning
F.5 Text Terminal Working Group report morning
Break around 11:00 am
F. Properties & algorithms
F.1 PAG report
F.2 PRI #509 Link detection/serialization
F.4 PRI #511 UCA
F.6 Other P&A documents
morning
Lunch 12:30 pm to 1:30 pm
F. Properties (cont’d) afternoon
Liaisons:
B.3.1 ICU-TC
B.4 CLDR
B.6 IETF / ICANN
afternoon
E. CJK & Unihan 3:00 pm
Break around 4:00 pm
F.3 PRI #510 East Asian Spacing 4:15 pm
E. CJK & Unihan (cont’d) afternoon
Liaisons:
B.2 IRG
afternoon

Friday, January 24, 2025
Admin:
A.1 Quorum
9:30 am
Liaisons:
B.13 Unicode Administration, Infrastructure Team
morning
Liaisons:
B.1 ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 2
morning
As needed:
B. Liaisons
D. Scripts
F. Properties
morning
Lunch 12:00 pm to 1:00 pm
I.1 Other feedback afternoon
H.1 Release Management Group report (cont’d) afternoon
Admin:
A.6 Closing dates for PRIs
A.7 L2 representatives
afternoon
INCITS/L2 meeting 2:00 pm to 3:15 pm

A. Administrative Topics

Schedule: Wednesday, 10:30 am; Thursday 9:30 am; Friday 9:30 am & afternoon

Details:

A.1 Consortium membership; meeting quorum and proxies

A.2 Agenda review

A.3 Approval of minutes of prior meeting [L2/24-221]

A.4 Action item review

Documents:

A.5 Calendar review [Calendar]

A.6 PRI closing dates [Public Review Issues]

A.7 INCITS/CS&I representatives

B. Liaison Reports & Technical Topics

Schedule: various times—see meeting timeline

Details:

B.1 ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 2

Schedule: Friday morning

Details:

B.1.1 Amd2 to ISO/IEC 10646 6th edition (SC2/N4930)

Documents:

  • ISO/IEC 10646 6th Edition Amendment 2 Code chart (DAM2) [Michel Suignard, WG2/N5281]
  • Disposition of comments on DAM2 to ISO/IEC 10646 6th edition [Michel Suignard, WG2/N5292]
  • Text for ISO/IEC 10646:2020 FDAM 2 [SC2/N4954]

B.1.2 ISO/IEC 10646 7th edition CD1 (SC2/4940)

Documents:

  • ISO/IEC 10646 Committee Draft [SC2, L2/24-265]
  • Summary of CD Consultation [SC2/N4951]
  • Additional Draft Repertoire for Characters Approved for Publication in Unicode Version 17.0 and the 7th edition of ISO/IEC 10646 (WG2 N5290) [Michel Suignard, L2/24-267]
  • Additional draft repertoire for provisionally assigned code points for Unicode (post 17.0) and possibly ISO/IEC 10646 7th edition (WG2 N5291) [Michel Suignard, L2/24-268]

B.1.3 ISO/IEC DIS 14651 (Ed.7) (SC2/N4939)

Documents:

  • Summary of Voting on ISO/IEC DIS 14651 (Ed. 7) [SC2/N4956]

B.1.4 Maintenance of UCS Repertoire via a Maintenance Agency


B.1.5 Request for SC2 member comments on proposal to encode Ruble sign with double vertical stem [Unicode, L2/24-271 (= SC2/N4952)]

(See also D.1.7)

B.2 IRG (see also IRG topics under E.1)

B.3 ICU

B.3.1 ICU-TC


B.3.2 ICU4X-TC

B.4 CLDR

B.5 ISO TC 37/SC 2

B.6 IETF / ICANN

B.7 SEI Liaison Report [Anderson, Hossain, L2/25-014]

B.8 INFITT

B.9 LSA

B.10 ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22

B.11 ISO TC 46

B.12 ECMA TC 39

B.13 Unicode Administration, Infrastructure Group

C. Editorial & Charts Working Groups

Schedule: Wednesday morning

Details:

C.1 Editorial Working Group Report and Recommendations for UTC #182 Meeting [EDC, L2/25-007]

Topics:

  • Unicode 17.0
  • Website
  • Editorial Working Group processes
  • Comments on Public Review Issues (October 24, 2024 – January 2, 2025) routed to Editorial Working Group [Michelle Perham, L2/25-005]

C.2 Charts Working Group Report for UTC #182 [CHARTS, L2/25-011]

D. Scripts

Schedule: Wednesday afternoon

Details:

D.1 Recommendations to UTC #182 (January 2025) on Script Proposals [Kučera, et al, L2/25-010]

Discussion led by Script Ad-Hoc chair, Jan Kučera, and vice-chairs, Debbie Anderson and Roozbeh Pournader


D.1.1 New Scripts

D.1.2 New Characters

Details:
  • Twelve cuneiform tenû numerals [Robin Leroy, L2/24-270] (see also F.1)
  • Hebrew Point Sheva Na' [Jonathan Mosesson, L2/24-274]
  • Devanagari letter Sindhi DDDA [Biswajit Mandal, L2/25-022]
  • Devanagari Sign AAO [Biswajit Mandal, L2/25-021]
    (See also D.1.6)
  • Character additions for Initial Teaching Alphabet [Kirk Miller, L2/24-273]
  • English Phonotypic Alphabet [Karl Pentzlin, L2/24-277]
  • Revista de Filología Española (RFE) letters [Kirk Miller, L2/25-016]
  • Phonetic: lezh with curl [Kirk Miller, L2/24-272]

D.1.3 New Symbols

Details:
  • Music: Miscellaneous musical symbols [Gavin Jared Bala, Kirk Miller, L2/25-017]
  • Music: additional Baroque ornament [Gavin Jared Bala, Kirk Miller, L2/25-015]

D.1.4 Changes to Characters

Details:
  • Two Tangut ideographs [Andrew West, L2/25-040]
  • Adlam names list modifications [Neil Patel, L2/24-204]
  • Phonetic: correction to U+1AB3 [Kirk Miller, L2/25-019]
  • Arabic: misspellings in honorific character names [Dalia Al-Shahrabi, Jan Kučera, L2/25-041]

D.1.5 Other recommendations for UTC action

Details:
  • Arabic: DoNotEmit for Arabic tashkil [Roozbeh Pournader, L2/25-025]

D.1.6 Public Feedback

  • Comments on Public Review Issues (October 24, 2024 – January 2, 2025) routed to Script Encoding Working Group [Michelle Perham, L2/25-005]

D.1.7 No Action Required

Details:
  • Arabic: yeh barree with small v [Roozbeh Pournader, L2/25-023]
  • Mongolian: Proposal to encode one Manchu letter [CheonHyeong Sim, et al, L2/24-025]
  • Tulu-Tigalari numerals [Biswajit Mandal, L2/25-020]
  • Symbols: false unifications of legacy box drawing characters [Piotr Grochowski, L2/25-037]
  • Ruble sign with double vertical stem
    • Feedback on L2/24-134 Proposal to Encode a Pridnestrovian Ruble Sign [Andrew West, L2/25-024]
    • Feedback on L2/24-134 Proposal to Encode a Pridnestrovian Ruble Sign in response to L2/24-271 and L2/25-024 [Karl Pentzlin, L2/25-030]
    • (See also B.1.5)
  • Sitelen Pona [Rebecca Bettencourt, et al, L2/24-275]
  • Sibe quotation marks [CheonHyeong Sim, L2/25-028]
    (See also ...)
  • Katakana digraph yori [CheonHyeong Sim, L2/24-279]

D.1.8 Proposals In-Progress

Details:
  • Proposal to encode Sirmauri in Unicode [Anshuman Pandey, Biswajit Mandal, L2/25-038]
  • Revised Proposal for Encoding the Mwangwego Script in the UCS [Oreen Yousuf, Daniel Yacob, L2/25-039]
  • On the decision to rename and change the glyphs of Greek phonetic letters [Eduardo Marin Silva, L2/25-043]

D.2 Other script-related documents

Documents:

  • Unicode request for musical bowing symbols [Gavin Jared Bala, Kirk Miller, L2/25-018]
  • Supportive Document for Tulu Unicode Proposal [Karnataka Tulu Sahitya Academy, L2/25-026]
  • KTA support letter [Kerala Tulu Academy, L2/25-027]

D.3 Update to UAX #57 Unikemet

Documents:

  • Proposed Update Unicode® Standard Annex #57 Unicode Egyptian Hieroglyph Database (Unikemet) [Michel Suignard, L2/25-051]

D.4 Proposal to create UAX for non-Han ideographs

Documents:

  • Proposed Draft Unicode® Standard Annex #60 Sources and Other Ancillary Data for Non Han Ideographic scripts [Michel Suignard, L2/25-052]

D.5 Small Seal

Documents:

  • Considerations concerning the Small Seal encoding initiative [Michel Suignard, L2/25-049]

E. CJK and Unihan

Schedule: Thursday, 3:00 pm – 5:30 pm

Details:

Discussion led by CJK and Unihan Group chair, Ken Lunde

E.1 CJK & Unihan Group Recommendations for UTC #182 Meeting [Ken Lunde, L2/25-009]

Details:
  • Public review feedback: PRI #508 Proposed Update UAX #38 (see E.2)
  • Comments on Public Review Issues (October 24, 2024 – January 2, 2025) routed to CJK and Unihan Group [Michelle Perham, L2/25-005]
  • UAX #38 Unicode Han Database (Unihan) (see also E.2)

    Documents:

    • One update to document L2/23-269 and feedback on year-2023 proposed kMandarin changes/additions for 102 characters (per two UTC actions) [Sharon Chen / CLDR-TC, L2/25-029]
  • UAX #45, U-source Ideographs

    Documents:

    • Proposal to add one ideograph used in Japanese ancient books [Lin Anning, L2/24-263]
    • Proposal to add two abbreviated Japanese ideographs to UAX #45 [Gen Kojitani, L2/24-266]
    • Proposal to add two characters used in Chinese rime tables to UAX #45 [Judith Chen, L2/24-269]
    • Proposal to add 8 ideographs used in Japanese shrines, manga, game, geba, game and food [Lin Anning, L2/24-276]
    • Proposal to add three characters used for foods in Xiapu County and Yilan County to UAX #45 (revised) [Eiso Chan, L2/24-278R]
  • Other topics / documents

    Documents / topics:

    • Proposal to Encode One Kana Ligature [CheonHyeong Sim, L2/24-279]
    • Proposed Updates and Expansions of Unihan Numeric Fields [Wang Yifan, Eiso Chan, L2/22-223]
    • Proposal to Add VS3 for Sibe Quotation Marks [CheonHyeong Sim, L2/25-028]
    • IRG document migration status
    • Updated provisional Unihan database properties
  • IRG Documents

    Documents / topics:

    • Update G-Source references values for 1,685 characters [China NB, IRG/N2689]
    • Update of V-Source Representative Glyph in Extension J [Vietnam NB, IRG/N2775]
    • Update of V-Source Representative Glyphs [Vietnam NB, IRG/N2776]

E.2 PRI #508 Proposed Update UAX #38, Unicode Han Database (Unihan)

Documents:

E.3 Other CJK-related documents

Documents:

  • Request to Change VO for some Small Kana Lettters and Bopomofo Letters [CheonHyeong Sim, L2/25-035]
  • Proposal to Encode One Small Kana Letter [CheonHyeong Sim, L2/25-036]
  • Proposal to add Katakana Letter Small Ne [Kentaro Bimbatti, L2/25-042]

F. Properties and Algorithms

Schedule: Thursday morning & afternoon

Details:

F.1 PAG: UTC #182 properties feedback & recommendations [Markus Scherer, et al, L2/25-006]

Details:
  • Comments on Public Review Issues (Oct 24, 2024 – January 2, 2025) routed to Properties and Algorithms Group [Michelle Perham, L2/25-005]
  • UCD: Defective decision on names of Tolong Siki letters
  • UCD: UCD 17 draft Blocks bugs
  • Properties for character proposals

    Documents:

    • Proposal to Encode the Jurchen Script [Andrew West, et al, L2/24-139]
    • Proposal to Encode Radicals for the Jurchen Script [Andrew West, et al, L2/24-140]
    • Proposal for two geometric shapes for Japanese traditional calendars [Gen Kojitani, L2/24-151]
    • Twelve cuneiform tenû numerals [Robin Leroy, L2/24-270] (see also D.1.2)
  • Collation: UCA implicit weights for Tangut blocks (see also F.4)
  • Security: Rare Han characters and identifiers

    Documents:

    • Common-Use Han Character Subset for Default Identifiers [Asmus Freytag, L2/25-031]
  • Emoji: Extended_Pictographic assignments for non-Emoji characters
  • Proposed updates for Unicode 17.0

F.2 PRI #509 Proposed Draft UTS #58, Unicode Link Detection and Serialization

F.3 PRI #510 Proposed Draft UTR #59, East Asian Spacing

Schedule: Thursday, 4:15 pm

F.4 PRI #511 Proposed Update UTS #10, Unicode Collation Algorithm

F.5 Text Terminal Working Group

F.6 Other documents related to properties and algorithms

Documents:

  • Alphabetic Characters not recommended in UTS#39 but part of the DNS Root Zone or Second-Level Reference LGR (revised) [Asmus Freytag, L2/25-032]
  • Characters excluded from both MSR and Reference LGR but allowed in UTS#39 [Asmus Freytag, L2/25-033]
  • Characters recommended in both UTS#39 and MSR but excluded from the Root Zone or Reference LGR [Asmus Freytag, L2/25-034]

G. Emoji

Schedule: Wednesday, 11:00 am

Details:

Discussion led by Emoji Working Group chair, Jennifer Daniel

G.1 Emoji Standard and Research Working Group Report for UTC #182 (2025Q1) [ESC/Jennifer Daniel, L2/25-008]

Topics:

  • Comments on Public Review Issues (October 24, 2024 – January 2, 2025) routed to ESR [Michelle Perham, L2/25-005]
  • Emoji 17.0 [Jennifer Daniels, ESR L2/24-226]
  • FAQ: redesigning emoji
  • Emoji Proposal Intake

H. Unicode Release Management

Schedule: Wednesday morning & Friday afternoon

Details:

H.1 Release Management Group Report to UTC #182 [RMG/Peter Constable, RMG L2/25-012]

Topics:

  • Unicode 17.0
  • Release tasks previously assigned to Rick McGowan
  • UCD build and deployment
  • Reorganization of /Public/ data files for UCD and synchronized UTSes

I. Other business

Details:

I.1 Other feedback

Schedule: Friday afternoon

Documents:

  • Comments on Public Review Issues (October 24, 2024 – January 2, 2025) [Michelle Perham, L2/25-005]

I.2 PRI #512 Proposed Update UTR #33, Unicode Conformance Model

Schedule: Thursday morning

Documents:

Meeting Adjournment