Re: [OT] o-circumflex

From: Mark Davis (mark@macchiato.com)
Date: Mon Sep 10 2001 - 11:27:17 EDT


Michael, that isn't the point. There is a problem even when you stick to one
language.

That is, there are situations where two letters in a language, e.g. "ch" in
Slovak, are normally sorted as one. However, in some exceptional
circumstances those letters should be sorted separated. It could be because
they come originally from another language, or it could be because they
happen to arise when two other words are conjoined. There is no algorithmic
distinction. So without some special character, it would require a
dictionary look-up to produce the right sort

For example, suppose that "th" were sorted separately in English, after Z.
Yet people would expect the following order:

cast
cathouse
caul
cathode

because the "t" and "h" are logically separate in "cathouse".

Mark
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <michka@trigeminal.com>
To: "Keld Jørn Simonsen" <keld@dkuug.dk>; <unicode@unicode.org>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] o-circumflex

> From: "Keld Jørn Simonsen" <keld@dkuug.dk>
>
> > Real-life sorts, like MS Windows sorting or Linux sorting, actually
> adheres
> > to these Danish rules, once you have set up your machine for Danish.
>
> And this is the *true* answer to the whole mess of attempting
*multilingual*
> sorts -- once the user chooses the sort they WANT, the system might handle
> other language strings in a way that might be obscure to those who know
the
> other language but the person who expected Danish or whatever will see
what
> they want.
>
> Since various sorts openly conflict with each other there is no other
> general case solution which would be appropriate, anyway?
>
> (can't believe this thread is still going on!)
>
>
> MichKa
>
> Michael Kaplan
> Trigeminal Software, Inc.
> http://www.trigeminal.com/
>
>
>
>



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