Marco,
When you're in Holland you may want to check some dictionaries too. You'll notice in dictionaries 'ij' is considered to consist of two letters 'i' and 'j', so the word 'ijs' sorts between 'iets' and 'ik'.
You're right the PTT doesn't make the distinction between 'ij' and 'y', so in the phone book 'Meyer' and 'Meijer' are indeed near each other. I suspected they would at least first list all Meijers, then all Meyers, but when I just checked they appeared to be intermingled. On closer inspection it turned out the Meijers and Meyers are further sorted by street name!
By the way, in crossword puzzles and the like, 'ij' always occupies one box (but isn't considered the same as 'y' I believe)
Regards,
Otmar Permentier
> -----Original Message-----
> From: unicode-bounce@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bounce@unicode.org]On
> Behalf Of Marco Cimarosti
> Sent: maandag 10 september 2001 19:59
> To: 'Stefan Persson'; 'John Wilcock'; unicode@unicode.org
> Subject: RE: [OT] o-circumflex
>
>
> Stefan Persson wrote:
> > I thought "ij" sorted after "z?"
>
> Not in Dutch: as far as I have seen it sorts the same as "y". In fact, in
> the telephone directory many people who had an "y" in their surname listed
> near people who had the same surname spelled with "ij" (e.g. "Meyer" and
> "Meijer").
>
> (Anyway, next time they send me to Holland, I'll ask for a downtown hotel.
> So, after dinner, I'll go sightseeing rather than spending the
> whole evening
> looking at the collation of the phone directory:-)
>
> _ Marco
>
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