Re: Greek Extended: question: missing glyphs?

From: Mark Davis (mark@macchiato.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 2002 - 09:57:56 EDT


These are already representable as sequences of characters. See
http://www.unicode.org/unicode/standard/where/

Mark
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pim Rietbroek" <pimr@euronet.nl>
To: <unicode@unicode.org>
Cc: "Pim Rietbroek" <rietbroek@brill.nl>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 19:37
Subject: Greek Extended: question: missing glyphs?

> Hello,
>
> Please forgive me if this question has been raised before: I am a
newbie
> on this list.
>
> I am looking into the Unicode standard for the encoding of Classical
> Greek. While both the Greek and the Greek Extended ranges of the
> current Unicode Standard seem to cover most of the essentials, it
looks
> strange to me that there some Greek extended glyphs have not been
> defined. They are:
>
> 1) GREEK CAPITAL LETTER UPSILON WITH PSILI
> [code point U+1F58 is "reserved"]
> 2) GREEK CAPITAL LETTER UPSILON WITH PSILI AND VARIA
> [code point U+1F5A is "reserved"]
> 3) GREEK CAPITAL LETTER UPSILON WITH PSILI AND OXIA
> [code point U+1F5C is "reserved"]
> 4) GREEK CAPITAL LETTER UPSILON WITH PSILI AND PERISPOMENI
> [code point U+1F5E is "reserved"]
> I don't know what "reserved" means in this context, BTW.
>
> Why have these glyphs been left out--does anybody know? They must
be
> rare, but they may--and one at least does--occur in the Aeolic
dialect,
> which exhibits the phenomenon of psilosis (loss of aspiration at the
> beginning of words). I have long felt uneasy about the absence of
these
> glyphs in the Unicode Standard, but yesterday I traced the source of
my
> unease:
>
> No. 3 above occurs in Alcaeus, fr. 129 Voigt, l. 13 in the name
> "Urraon". Instances of capital letters 1, 2 and 4 may not be
attested
> in print AFAIK, but there is nothing to suggest that some new
papyrus
> finds may not make the use of these glyphs necessary in the future.
> Even if no new finds come to light: one may want to code the Aeolic
> preposition "Upa" (Attic "Hupo") with a capital initial, for
instance
> (1). Or "Us" "swine" (Attic "Hus") (4). Only (2) will be extremely
> rare, I guess; at least I can't think of an example right now.
>
> Am I right in thinking that this merits writing up a proposal to add
> these glyphs to the Unicode standard? I am most interested to hear
the
> thoughts of the wise on this list. And if the answer is "Yes", I
would
> appreciate some help in filling out the proposal form from someone
> experienced in these matters (I did check the examples available on
the
> 'Net, but I feel a bit uncomfortable going "solo").
>
> Greetings from Leiden,
>
> Pim Rietbroek
>
> W.P.J. Rietbroek Telephone: +31-71-522-1510
> Houtmarkt 29 Email: pimr@euronet.nl
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> Home Page at http://www.euronet.nl/~pimr/
>
>
>



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