From: Peter Kirk (peter.r.kirk@ntlworld.com)
Date: Fri Jul 25 2003 - 15:06:16 EDT
On 25/07/2003 11:01, Jony Rosenne wrote:
>>But consider the seventh word in Jeremiah 52:19, which, as you would
>>encode it, ends qof hiriq yod zaqef-qatan vav holam tav.
>>(This hiriq yod
>>vav holam sequence is in fact unique in the WTS Bible text.) In this
>>case, is the yod a consonant followed by a holam-vav vowel, or is the
>>hiriq-yod a vowel followed by a consonantal vav and a simple holam
>>vowel? (How would this actually be pronounced in modern
>>Hebrew, with a V
>>sound of not?) BHS prints holam above the right side of vav, implying
>>that the holam-vav is understood as a vowel, and has a footnote that
>>many manuscripts and editions have a dagesh in the yod, which
>>makes this
>>understanding unambiguous.
>>
>>
>>
>
>It is a Holam, rather than Vav Haluma, i.e. a vowel. The Dagesh doesn't make
>a difference.
>
>The pronunciation raises no difficulty, even when presented without points,
>as it is a feminine plural.
>
Thank you. I wonder if it is safe to assume that any yod or vav with
"dagesh" immediately preceding a vav-holam is consonantal, i.e. neither
a hiriq-yod full form vowel nor a shuruq, and so the holam-vav is a
vowel. This rule seems to apply to the Bible text, but I don't know if
it does to all Hebrew texts. There is a more general algorithm to
distinguish the two vav-holams, but it is messy and potentially
recursive to the start of the word - consider the pronunciation of a
word consisting of a long string of vav-dageshes and a final vav-holam!
>
>In my bible it is the 14th word. The Maqaf only affects the pronunciation,
>not the word count. Otherwise the word count would change when the text is
>marked up with the Maqaf.
>
Good point. But the WTS text which I was basing this on does not count
maqaf as a word break. Perhaps it should.
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